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Wasn't sure where to put this, but we need a thread for the wing nuts. Lauren Boebert.
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He FAFO, good riddance...Let the conspiracy theories flow
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SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — A Utah man accused of making threats against President Joe Biden was shot and killed by FBI agents hours before the president was expected to land in the state Wednesday, authorities said.
Special agents were trying to serve a warrant on the home of Craig Deleeuw Robertson in Provo, south of Salt Lake City, when the shooting happened at 6:15 a.m., the FBI said in a statement.
Robertson posted online Monday that he had heard Biden was coming to Utah and he was planning to dig out a camouflage suit and “clean the dust off the m24 sniper rifle,” according to court documents.
In another post, Robertson refers to himself as a “MAGA Trumper,” a reference to former President Donald Trump’s “Make America Great Again” slogan.
The posts indicated he did appear to own a long-range sniper rifle and numerous other weapons, as well as camouflage gear known as a “ghillie suit,” investigators said in court records. Robertson was charged under seal Tuesday with three felony counts, including making threats against the president, court documents show.
Robertson also referenced a “presidential assassination” and made other threats against Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland and New York Attorney General Letitia James, court documents state.
“The time is right for a presidential assassination or two. First Joe then Kamala!!!” authorities say Robertson wrote in a September 2022 Facebook post included in the filings. No attorney was immediately listed for Robertson in court documents.……
Utah man suspected of threatening President Joe Biden shot and killed as FBI served warrant
An armed Utah man accused of making violent threats against President Joe Biden was shot and killed by FBI agents hours before the president landed in the state Wednesday, authorities say.apnews.com
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I'm sure the right will make him a martyr.
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Oh, they already are, many are whining about why weren't Kathy Griffin/Snoop Dogg/etc investigated by the FBI for hurting TFG's feeble widdle feelings...
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Good riddance. You threaten the US President like that, you deserve to get got. I'm sure the FBI intended to arrest him, but I guess he took the easy way out.Let the conspiracy theories flow
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SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — A Utah man accused of making threats against President Joe Biden was shot and killed by FBI agents hours before the president was expected to land in the state Wednesday, authorities said.
Special agents were trying to serve a warrant on the home of Craig Deleeuw Robertson in Provo, south of Salt Lake City, when the shooting happened at 6:15 a.m., the FBI said in a statement.
Robertson posted online Monday that he had heard Biden was coming to Utah and he was planning to dig out a camouflage suit and “clean the dust off the m24 sniper rifle,” according to court documents.
In another post, Robertson refers to himself as a “MAGA Trumper,” a reference to former President Donald Trump’s “Make America Great Again” slogan.
The posts indicated he did appear to own a long-range sniper rifle and numerous other weapons, as well as camouflage gear known as a “ghillie suit,” investigators said in court records. Robertson was charged under seal Tuesday with three felony counts, including making threats against the president, court documents show.
Robertson also referenced a “presidential assassination” and made other threats against Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland and New York Attorney General Letitia James, court documents state.
“The time is right for a presidential assassination or two. First Joe then Kamala!!!” authorities say Robertson wrote in a September 2022 Facebook post included in the filings. No attorney was immediately listed for Robertson in court documents.……
Utah man suspected of threatening President Joe Biden shot and killed as FBI served warrant
An armed Utah man accused of making violent threats against President Joe Biden was shot and killed by FBI agents hours before the president landed in the state Wednesday, authorities say.
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That sounds familiar sounds exactly like one of my fathers friends. He did beat her. The crazy thing is she was the breadwinner by a mile. She made four times the money he did.
He one upped that guy he was dinner at certain time guy but this jerk had a friggin bell. He would actually ring a bell to be waited on regardless of what she was doing. Sleeping hear bell bring beer kinda thing. Friggin crazy
He actually did stop beating her a group of friends including my dad got him to stop eventually. They talked and talked to him didn't work. Then eventually decided to kick his arse every time she got hit. His four best friends showed up and beat his arse and made damn sure he knew it would never stop unless he did. Three times and it stopped. That was the 80s. It all seemed so crazy to me at the time but obviously effective.
nobody involved is still around but she was with him until he stopped breathing.
Today it is really ridiculous. They are putting threats in quotes - as if what he said weren’t real threats. And someone pretending to be a neighbor is saying that he was a sweet old man who could hardly walk, and gave the kids candy and such. They are saying he was assassinated by the FBI. It really makes me sad for what our country has become.
I remember when the Secret Service or FBI had a talk with Kathy Griffin, and she was told she might be prosecuted for making a threat. They also visited this guy months ago and he just doubled down on his threats and even posted a threat to the FBI.
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isn't that what every neighbor says when they find out they are a serial killer?
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when's the last time someone said, "I'm not surprised, I always knew something was up with that creepy MF"
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Clear evidence Trumpism is absolutely a cult and has little to do with Christianity. Religion is little more than a facade to cover their zeal for Trump.
I'll never forget Trump waving that Bible around and pretending like he believed or understood anything in the book.
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This is a really fascinating article by Amanda Knox. Since being wrongfully convicted she has studied cognitive biases because she couldn’t believe that the Italian police were evil and plotted against her. She recognized that it was just a series of mistakes (biases) and the inability to recognize them. There are a couple that are pertinent to RWNJ.
“The most general form of this is often called confirmation bias, the tendency to seek out information that confirms a hypothesis and ignore information that disconfirms it. With wrongful convictions, this is known as tunnel vision. The anchoring bias of an initial hunch shapes the investigators’ search for more information. They magnify the significance of any tiny thing that confirms the anchor and write off large things that don’t. Thus, much weight was put on a kiss between Raffaele and me, while the fact that my DNA was not present in the room where the murder happened and that it was impossible to have participated in such a violent struggle without leaving any traces of oneself, was ignored. This is sometimes called the conservatism bias, the tendency to insufficiently revise one’s prior beliefs in light of new evidence.”
“The framing effect was used repeatedly at trial to present benign behaviors as suspicious. She ate pizza after her friend had been murdered? Why wasn’t she wasting away, sobbing? Literally, the fact that I ate pizza was used against me as evidence that I was not sufficiently morose, as if a grieving and scared person can’t also be hungry.”
“The proportionality bias is our tendency to assume that big events have big causes, when often they are caused by many small things. The massive decade-long series of trials with global media coverage doesn’t need an underlying conspiracy as a cause. It doesn’t require that I was grandly suspicious, nor does it require that the authorities were grandly corrupt. The conjunction of many small cognitive biases by the authorities and media is enough to explain the massive debacle the case became, but the proportionality bias leads us to think there must be a bigger reason.”
Anybody can fall to these biases, they are part of human nature. But knowing about them can help all of us at least recognize when they are at play in our lives.
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“The most general form of this is often called confirmation bias, the tendency to seek out information that confirms a hypothesis and ignore information that disconfirms it. With wrongful convictions, this is known as tunnel vision. The anchoring bias of an initial hunch shapes the investigators’ search for more information. They magnify the significance of any tiny thing that confirms the anchor and write off large things that don’t. Thus, much weight was put on a kiss between Raffaele and me, while the fact that my DNA was not present in the room where the murder happened and that it was impossible to have participated in such a violent struggle without leaving any traces of oneself, was ignored. This is sometimes called the conservatism bias, the tendency to insufficiently revise one’s prior beliefs in light of new evidence.”
“The framing effect was used repeatedly at trial to present benign behaviors as suspicious. She ate pizza after her friend had been murdered? Why wasn’t she wasting away, sobbing? Literally, the fact that I ate pizza was used against me as evidence that I was not sufficiently morose, as if a grieving and scared person can’t also be hungry.”
“The proportionality bias is our tendency to assume that big events have big causes, when often they are caused by many small things. The massive decade-long series of trials with global media coverage doesn’t need an underlying conspiracy as a cause. It doesn’t require that I was grandly suspicious, nor does it require that the authorities were grandly corrupt. The conjunction of many small cognitive biases by the authorities and media is enough to explain the massive debacle the case became, but the proportionality bias leads us to think there must be a bigger reason.”
Anybody can fall to these biases, they are part of human nature. But knowing about them can help all of us at least recognize when they are at play in our lives.
The Gift of Bias: How My Wrongful Conviction Helped Me Become a Better Thinker
After her wrongful conviction for murder in 2007, Amanda Knox was haunted by one question: why? Why did this happen? How could the pursuit of justice have gone so far off course? Corruption and evil were not satisfactory answers for her. Instead, she found understanding through the study of...
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It's a very fine article and I truly appreciate her efforts in sharing her thoughts recognizing biases and how those biases work against her. Unfortunately, the Republican base has been programmed to believe that any effort to recognize and taking measures to avoid biases is WOKE!This is a really fascinating article by Amanda Knox. Since being wrongfully convicted she has studied cognitive biases because she couldn’t believe that the Italian police were evil and plotted against her. She recognized that it was just a series of mistakes (biases) and the inability to recognize them. There are a couple that are pertinent to RWNJ.
“The most general form of this is often called confirmation bias, the tendency to seek out information that confirms a hypothesis and ignore information that disconfirms it. With wrongful convictions, this is known as tunnel vision. The anchoring bias of an initial hunch shapes the investigators’ search for more information. They magnify the significance of any tiny thing that confirms the anchor and write off large things that don’t. Thus, much weight was put on a kiss between Raffaele and me, while the fact that my DNA was not present in the room where the murder happened and that it was impossible to have participated in such a violent struggle without leaving any traces of oneself, was ignored. This is sometimes called the conservatism bias, the tendency to insufficiently revise one’s prior beliefs in light of new evidence.”
“The framing effect was used repeatedly at trial to present benign behaviors as suspicious. She ate pizza after her friend had been murdered? Why wasn’t she wasting away, sobbing? Literally, the fact that I ate pizza was used against me as evidence that I was not sufficiently morose, as if a grieving and scared person can’t also be hungry.”
“The proportionality bias is our tendency to assume that big events have big causes, when often they are caused by many small things. The massive decade-long series of trials with global media coverage doesn’t need an underlying conspiracy as a cause. It doesn’t require that I was grandly suspicious, nor does it require that the authorities were grandly corrupt. The conjunction of many small cognitive biases by the authorities and media is enough to explain the massive debacle the case became, but the proportionality bias leads us to think there must be a bigger reason.”
Anybody can fall to these biases, they are part of human nature. But knowing about them can help all of us at least recognize when they are at play in our lives.
The Gift of Bias: How My Wrongful Conviction Helped Me Become a Better Thinker
After her wrongful conviction for murder in 2007, Amanda Knox was haunted by one question: why? Why did this happen? How could the pursuit of justice have gone so far off course? Corruption and evil were not satisfactory answers for her. Instead, she found understanding through the study of...
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An evangelical leader is warning that conservative Christians are now rejecting the teachings of Jesus as "liberal talking points."
Russell Moore, former top official for the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) who is now the editor-in-chief of Christianity Today, said during an interview aired on NPR's All Things Considered this week that Christianity is in a "crisis" due to the current state of right-wing politics.
Moore has found himself at odds with other evangelical leaders due to his frequent criticism of former President Donald Trump. He resigned his position with the SBC in 2021 following friction over his views on Trump and a sex abuse crisis among Southern Baptist clergy.
In his NPR interview, Moore suggested that Trump had transformed the political landscape in the U.S. to the point where some Christian conservatives are openly denouncing a central doctrine of their religion as being too "weak" and "liberal" for their liking.
"Multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically, in their preaching—'turn the other cheek'—[and] to have someone come up after to say, 'Where did you get those liberal talking points?'" Moore said.
"When the pastor would say, 'I'm literally quoting Jesus Christ' ... The response would be, 'Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak," he added. "When we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we're in a crisis.".............
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