Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley (Merged) (1 Viewer)

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Thought I would start a dedicated topic about her.
If anyone comes across info pertaining to her, feel free to post it here

 

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There is about 20-30% of the Republican Party that is pro-slavery yes.

They are currently in charge and setting the agenda so yes, the Republican Party is pro-civil war losers.

This reminds me of good ol' tom Cotton

Tom Cotton describes slavery as a 'necessary evil' in bid to keep schools from teaching 1619 Project | CNN Politics

Republican Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas described slavery as a “necessary evil” in his ongoing effort to prevent US schools from teaching the 1619 Project, an initiative from The New York Times that reframes American history around the date of August 1619, when the first slave ship arrived on...

www.cnn.com

and I found this nice article about "necessary evil"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/07/30/was-slavery-necessary-evil-heres-what-john-stuart-mill-would-say/

"Mill’s lesson: The winners in unjust systems always want the oppressed to assume their fate was inevitable."

 

[Farb]

Do you believe that people who are Republican are superior to people who are Democrat?

Do you believe that people who are Democrat should have less rights and proportional government representation than people who are Republican?

Do you believe that people who live in southern states are superior to people who live in northern states?

Do you believe that people who live in northern states should have less rights and proportional government representation than people who live in southern states?

Do you believe that people who live in rural areas are superior to people who live in urban areas?

Do you believe that people who live in urban areas should have less rights and proportional government representation than people who live in rural areas?

Do you believe that people who are white are superior to people who are not white?

Do you believe people who are not white should have less rights and proportional government representation than people who are white?

Do you believe that people who are Christian are superior to people who are not Christian?

Do you believe that people who are not Christian should have less rights and proportional government representation than people who are Christian?

Do you believe that people who are heterosexual are superior to people who are not heterosexual?

Do you believe that people who are not heterosexual should have less rights and proportional government representation than people who are heterosexual?

Do you believe that people who are male are superior to people who are female?

Do you believe that people who are female should have less rights and proportional government representation than people who are female?

My answer to every question is no. My answer to the converse of every question is also no. I look forward to hearing your answers to these questions.

Also 'no' but I have been very clear and above board on that.

So you don't honestly think that Republicans are pro-slavery? I assume that is also no. Then you would agree that the question asked of Haley was just stupid and political stunt, right?

 

[bird]

Also 'no' but I have been very clear and above board on that.

So you don't honestly think that Republicans are pro-slavery? I assume that is also no. Then you would agree that the question asked of Haley was just stupid and political stunt, right?

The question asked of Haley was simple to answer. She failed miserably.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Also 'no' but I have been very clear and above board on that.

So you don't honestly think that Republicans are pro-slavery? I assume that is also no. Then you would agree that the question asked of Haley was just stupid and political stunt, right?

If it was a stunt it worked perfectly because she completely whiffed on what should have been a softball question

Q: What was the cause of the Civil War?

A: Slavery. Next Question

Would you agree she botched it?

And you believe more of the blame should go to the person who asked the easy question and not the person who forked it up?

 

[MT15]

Also 'no' but I have been very clear and above board on that.

So you don't honestly think that Republicans are pro-slavery? I assume that is also no. Then you would agree that the question asked of Haley was just stupid and political stunt, right?

It so wasn’t a “gotcha” question. Her reaction is what caused people to talk about her. She has only herself to blame for this.

 

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Also 'no' but I have been very clear and above board on that.

I didn't know what you thought which is why I asked and thanks for answering.

So you don't honestly think that Republicans are pro-slavery? I assume that is also no. Then you would agree that the question asked of Haley was just stupid and political stunt, right?

I missed were Haley was asked, "are you pro-slavery." Was she asked if she was pro-slavery? Would you please provide a source that shows she was asked specifically if she was pro-slavery?

 

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I wonder if she would still pardon him

Trump promotes 'totally baseless' birther conspiracy theory against Nikki Haley

The former U.N. ambassador was born in South Carolina and is a U.S. citizen.

www.nbcnews.com

Trump posted an article on his Truth Social account from a right-wing outlet that claimed Haley, his GOP rival, is ineligible to be president because her parents were not U.S. citizens when she was born.

Haley was born in South Carolina and has lived in the U.S. her entire life. Her parents were immigrants, who became citizens after her birth in 1972.

 

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I wonder if she would still pardon him

Trump promotes 'totally baseless' birther conspiracy theory against Nikki Haley

The former U.N. ambassador was born in South Carolina and is a U.S. citizen.

www.nbcnews.com

Trump posted an article on his Truth Social account from a right-wing outlet that claimed Haley, his GOP rival, is ineligible to be president because her parents were not U.S. citizens when she was born.

Haley was born in South Carolina and has lived in the U.S. her entire life. Her parents were immigrants, who became citizens after her birth in 1972.

Sorry, we are going to need to see that long form birth certificate.

Oh, Farb it looks so bad. You trying to strawman some some weird pro-slavery slanted argument. This immediately gets followed up with Trump racist dog whistling Haley.

 

[Farb]

I didn't know what you thought which is why I asked and thanks for answering.


I missed were Haley was asked, "are you pro-slavery." Was she asked if she was pro-slavery? Would you please provide a source that shows she was asked specifically if she was pro-slavery?

provide a source. LOLZ.

Why was she asked that question? To get her to say it was about slavery or not about slavery. The dude who asked the question said as much in his follow up remark. The MSM jumped on her answer to 'prove' she was trying to not step on the toes of some of the republican voters. What voters exactly?
What voters do you think the MSM was referring to?

 

[Optimus Prime]

provide a source. LOLZ.

Why was she asked that question? To get her to say it was about slavery or not about slavery. The dude who asked the question said as much in his follow up remark. The MSM jumped on her answer to 'prove' she was trying to not step on the toes of some of the republican voters. What voters exactly?
What voters do you think the MSM was referring to?

Why do you think she didn’t just answer slavery?

 

[Farb]

Why do you think she didn’t just answer slavery?

How should I know? Do you think she actually thinks slavery wasn't a cause of the civil war?

Why do I think she answered the way she did? She didn't feel like dunking the Democrats who were the slaver holders at the time. That is my guess. She is too much of a unifier and is trying to bridge the gap between the growing divide.

 

[MT15]

How should I know? Do you think she actually thinks slavery wasn't a cause of the civil war?

Why do I think she answered the way she did? She didn't feel like dunking the Democrats who were the slaver holders at the time. That is my guess. She is too much of a unifier and is trying to bridge the gap between the growing divide.

Did you giggle when you typed that?

 

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Looks like she came out swinging... to defend her civil war comments... against.. Biden?? Did I miss something? And Biden made a comment about Nikki and her civil war comments?

Haley accuses Biden of giving 'offensive' speech at the church where racist mass shooting occurred

Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley is taking aim at the Democrat she’d like to face in the November election.

apnews.com

“For Biden to show up there and give a political speech, it’s offensive in itself,” the former United Nations ambassador and South Carolina governor said during a town hall on Fox News in Des Moines, Iowa. “I don’t need someone who palled around with segregationists in the ‘70s and has said racist comments all the way through his career lecturing me or anyone in South Carolina about what it means to have racism, slavery, or anything related to the Civil War.”

 

[bird]

provide a source. LOLZ.

Why was she asked that question? To get her to say it was about slavery or not about slavery. The dude who asked the question said as much in his follow up remark. The MSM jumped on her answer to 'prove' she was trying to not step on the toes of some of the republican voters. What voters exactly?
What voters do you think the MSM was referring to?

Who cares why she was asked? It was a simple question that she forked up. The Lost Cause was, is and always be bullschlitz.

 

[LA - L.A.]

provide a source. LOLZ.

Why was she asked that question? To get her to say it was about slavery or not about slavery. The dude who asked the question said as much in his follow up remark.

Who cares why she was asked? It was a simple question that she forked up. The Lost Cause was, is and always be bullschlitz.

Bird's correct. It doesn't matter why she was asked. The questions was simple and straight forward. Haley chose to answer it how she chose to answer it.

The person who asked the question said they asked it to see if Haley had changed her position from when she was a politician in South Carolina. She gave the same answer when she was in South Carolina saying it was state's rights instead of slavery.

The MSM jumped on her answer to 'prove' she was trying to not step on the toes of some of the republican voters. What voters exactly?
What voters do you think the MSM was referring to?

It's obvious now, innit? All the people, predominantly in southern states, who hold a nostalgic affinity for the Confederacy. Are those people pro-slavery? Some of them probably are.

Are they racist? Without out a doubt many of them are, because they show and tell us they are.

I think most of them just have a hard time admitting to themselves and others that the Confederacy fought the Civil War to preserve slavery. I think that's because most of them aren't pro-slavery or racist and I don't think that's why the Confederacy means to them. I think it means more to them as an idea of rural and small town, simpler times and simpler life. It more off a Norman Rockwell, Mark Twain, or Andy Griffith's Mayberry kind of thing to them without much, if any, consideration given to white supremacy, slavery or racism.

For those people, it's really hard to admit that what they have a nostalgic affinity for was steeped in brutally oppressive slavery and they get mad anyone reminds them of the brutally oppressive slavery. A lot of the voters that have helped Haley win elections in the past and a lot of the voters she needs to win now are those people, so she avoids admitting the Civil War was fought over slavery to keep from losing their votes.

 

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How should I know? Do you think she actually thinks slavery wasn't a cause of the civil war?

Why do I think she answered the way she did? She didn't feel like dunking the Democrats who were the slaver holders at the time. That is my guess. She is too much of a unifier and is trying to bridge the gap between the growing divide.

That's funny right there.

 

[Farb]

Did you giggle when you typed that?

I did, just little

 

[Farb]

Looks like she came out swinging... to defend her civil war comments... against.. Biden?? Did I miss something? And Biden made a comment about Nikki and her civil war comments?

Haley accuses Biden of giving 'offensive' speech at the church where racist mass shooting occurred

Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley is taking aim at the Democrat she’d like to face in the November election.

apnews.com

“For Biden to show up there and give a political speech, it’s offensive in itself,” the former United Nations ambassador and South Carolina governor said during a town hall on Fox News in Des Moines, Iowa. “I don’t need someone who palled around with segregationists in the ‘70s and has said racist comments all the way through his career lecturing me or anyone in South Carolina about what it means to have racism, slavery, or anything related to the Civil W

Bird's correct. It doesn't matter why she was asked. The questions was simple and straight forward. Haley chose to answer it how she chose to answer it.

The person who asked the question said they asked it to see if Haley had changed her position from when she was a politician in South Carolina. She gave the same answer when she was in South Carolina saying it was state's rights instead of slavery.


It's obvious now, innit? All the people, predominantly in southern states, who hold a nostalgic affinity for the Confederacy. Are those people pro-slavery? Some of them probably are.

Are they racist? Without out a doubt many of them are, because they show and tell us they are.

I think most of them just have a hard time admitting to themselves and others that the Confederacy fought the Civil War to preserve slavery. I think that's because most of them aren't pro-slavery or racist and I don't think that's why the Confederacy means to them. I think it means more to them as an idea of rural and small town, simpler times and simpler life. It more off a Norman Rockwell, Mark Twain, or Andy Griffith's Mayberry kind of thing to them without much, if any, consideration given to white supremacy, slavery or racism.

For those people, it's really hard to admit that what they have a nostalgic affinity for was steeped in brutally oppressive slavery and they get mad anyone reminds them of the brutally oppressive slavery. A lot of the voters that have helped Haley win elections in the past and a lot of the voters she needs to win now are those people, so she avoids admitting the Civil War was fought over slavery to keep from losing their votes.

I think you right about most of that.

While the war was fought over states rights (the right to own slaves) that is not why the vast majority fought the war on either side. That would be like saying WWII was fought to end and free concentration camps and the Jews.