President Trump and First Lady have tested positive for Virus (Update: Trump to undergo televised ‘medical exam’ Friday night) (7 Viewers)

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[Mr. Blue Sky]

As the only surviving member of the Bee Gees, i hope that Barry Gibb politely asks the Trump campaign to cease and desist using their song, as other artists who dont want any association with the Trump Crime Family have done recently.

 

[superchuck500]

Very few masks at the ACB event. No masks in the debate activities. The Trump family refused to wear masks at the debate even after being reminded that the rules required masks.

This is objectively selfish, reckless behavior and objectively bad judgment.

 

[LA - L.A.]

This is a time not to show empathy to the victims fed up living under and experiencing this horror, but to look at those victims and remind them how they need to be better.

They are not exclusive. Don't know why they are seen as exclusive. Empathy can be felt for said victims of Trump and for Trump at the same time.

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

Good news, everybody. Want to feel the best you've felt in decades? Just ignore all health protocols and get yourself some of that sweet CODID nectar!



Mix a little bit of oxygen with some experimental antibody treatments, hardcore steroid and a little car ride, with all the best medical care that your $750 in tax money can buy, and you'll be right as rain.

/sarcasm off, it is hard to imagine this guy making his administration's response to this pandemic worse by getting the virus, but he probably will.

The 'feel better than I did 20 years ago' is where it went totally off-the-rails into infomercial territory.

 

[superchuck500]

As the only surviving member of the Bee Gees, i hope that Barry Gibb politely asks the Trump campaign to cease and desist using their song, as other artists who dont want any association with the Trump Crime Family have done recently.

I doubt that was official campaign activity. Probably just some Trump stans blasting a speaker.

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

I doubt that was official campaign activity. Probably just some Trump stans blasting a speaker.

You’re right, i just had a passing glance at the Tweet.. I guess i went and made some “FAKE NEWS!”

 

[N.O.Bronco]

Yet, we do decide who the world would be better off without, every day, multiple times. Murderers, rapists, child molesters... whether we kill them or lock them behind bars, aren't we better off without them?

Exactly, there is a huge chasm between thinking the world would be a better place without X person because they have done unspeakable evil vs. I am now going to shoot up an anti-abortion meeting.

Personally, I don’t really believe in the death penalty, so typically the worst I go is that I am apathetic to their suffering or death, but I don’t think saying that the world would be better off without a guy that is directly contributing to deaths every day and sowing fractures in our culture and democracy that may lead to deadly and irreparable damage puts them on some slippery slope to murderer or genocide.

Especially when the same people often making that claim agree with the underlying analysis that brought them there. Which honestly more raises the question about said persons own morals that they can think someone is doing all those things and that we should treat them like some normal politician.

 

[superchuck500]

The 'feel better than I did 20 years ago' is where it went totally off-the-rails into infomercial territory.

He's got plasma and steroids and who knows what coursing though his system - of course he feels better than he did 20 years ago.

I'd say that Melania might want to put on something scandalous tonight but I'm pretty sure that ship sailed a long time ago.

 

[EmBeeFiveOhFour]

Very few masks at the ACB event. No masks in the debate activities. The Trump family refused to wear masks at the debate even after being reminded that the rules required masks.

This is objectively selfish, reckless behavior and objectively bad judgment.

They brought along pictures of Trump to hang up as decorations in the debate prep room? Incredible.

 

[UriUT]

They are not exclusive. Don't know why they are seen as exclusive. Empathy can be felt for said victims of Trump and for Trump at the same time.

Are you telling me to show empathy for that sack of crap who's mismanagement cost my sister in law her job? How about I say that you showing sympathy for that sack of crap means you're aligning yourself with that sack of crap. Don't tell people how to feel just so you can stand on some high moral ground. This is some level of horse manure. I and anyone who's express anger and show some sort of schadenfreude have that right. So don't moral police and guilt us just to make urself feel morally superior. We are not actively killing him. He did it to himself with his stupidity.

 

[EmBeeFiveOhFour]

He's got plasma and steroids and who knows what coursing though his system - of course he feels better than he did 20 years ago.

He probably also hasn't eaten McDonald's since Thursday.

 

[LA - L.A.]

This is absurd. Acknowledging the world is better off without a monster doesn’t make you on the path to being a mass murderer.

The logic at work today, my god

nah, you compare demonstrably good people to a murderer because they don’t vibe the way you want, I am going to stand up and say something.

fork that noise.

Please pay better attention to what I actually said. I did not say it makes you on the path to being a mass murderer in any way. Please reread what I actually wrote, as I'm simply not willing to keep repeating what I actually wrote.

If you respond to what I actually wrote, I'll be happy to continue a discussion with you and anyone else.

 

[N.O.Bronco]

They are not exclusive. Don't know why they are seen as exclusive. Empathy can be felt for said victims of Trump and for Trump at the same time.

Very much true, not sure why you would on the latter, but certainly true.

Problem here is we have a few people that are simply showing up to absurdly point their fingers in the chest of the victims of Trump’s appalling leadership and absurdly both sidesing them. Contributing nothing else, let alone empathy.

It’s logically absurd, morally indefensible, and removes ones credibility in my mind.

It is not the same, it will never be the same, and to get to a place where you can say that nonsense with a straight face requires a wholesale white washing or normalization of Trump’s responsibility in all this, or a true lack of empathy for the victim expressing their anger as to think their anger is of the same quality and evil that Trump’s comes from.

Hence the OBL analogy and the absurdist notion that the angry father who has his family raped and murdered is no different than the murderer for wishing death on the killer.

 

[LA - L.A.]

Yet, we do decide who the world would be better off without, every day, multiple times. Murderers, rapists, child molesters... whether we kill them or lock them behind bars, aren't we better off without them?

I'm opposed to both the death penalty and the punitive/vengeance focus of our current justice system.

Also, separating someone from society is not the same thing as removing them from the world. Not even close.

 

[Foreign National]

Very few masks at the ACB event. No masks in the debate activities. The Trump family refused to wear masks at the debate even after being reminded that the rules required masks.

This is objectively selfish, reckless behavior and objectively bad judgment.

What is a debate war room for? Is this for debate preparation or for watching the debate?

 

[N.O.Bronco]

Please pay better attention to what I actually said. I did not say it makes you on the path to being a mass murderer in any way. Please reread what I actually wrote, as I'm simply not willing to keep repeating what I actually wrote.

If you respond to what I actually wrote, I'll be happy to continue a discussion with you and anyone else.

You are making a slippery slope argument, which is a fallacious construct unless you have some direct evidence that x will necessitate the y and z you alluded to.

 

[N.O.Bronco]

Are you telling me to show empathy for that sack of crap who's mismanagement cost my sister in law her job? How about I say that you showing sympathy for that sack of crap means you're aligning yourself with that sack of crap. Don't tell people how to feel just so you can stand on some high moral ground. This is some level of horse manure. I and anyone who's express anger and show some sort of schadenfreude have that right. So don't moral police and guilt us just to make urself feel morally superior. We are not actively killing him. He did it to himself with his stupidity.

Thank you

 

[UriUT]

Hence the OBL analogy and the absurdist notion that the angry father who has his family raped and murdered is no different than the murderer for wishing death on the killer.

Not to mention that this totally dismisses the anger of the father and puts the blame on that father for not showing enough empathy.