Pence / Does he have ANY chance? (3 Viewers)

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Mike Pence seems to be laying the groundwork for a presidential run.
His plan apparently is to try to tie himself to the policies that were/are popular with Republican voters....yet...
greatly distance himself from former President Trump.
Hmmmm.
Good luck with that.

Pence unveils 'Freedom Agenda' as he weighs 2024 run

Former Vice President Mike Pence is offering a “Freedom Agenda” platform for Republicans ahead of this year's midterm elections, presenting a framework for GOP candidates — and possibly himself for a 2024 presidential run. Pence’s platform, released Thursday, combines traditional Republican...

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[Snarky Sack]

Awesome.

As a special educator, I provide that kind of equity to school children every day.

Not sure who CoolBrees is hanging around with who is fragile about that?

 

[CoolBrees]

Awesome.

As a special educator, I provide that kind of equity to school children every day.

Not sure who CoolBrees is hanging around with who is fragile about that?

Nobody I hang out with is against equity, but I don't hang out with many white guys. I don't typically like us. We whine and cry about nothing and bemoan hard working minorities.

It isn't as bad here in The PNW, but in Texas where all the dummies live they simply can't exist on the level playing field.

White men are too lazy to succeed without our built in societal advantages and we will stop and nothing to hold onto our Ill gotten power.

 

[Snarky Sack]

Nobody I hang out with is against equity, but I don't hang out with many white guys. I don't typically like us. We whine and cry about nothing and bemoan hard working minorities.

It isn't as bad here in The PNW, but in Texas where all the dummies live they simply can't exist on the level playing field.

White men are too lazy to succeed without our built in societal advantages and we will stop and nothing to hold onto our Ill gotten power.

You are a self hater, sir. I feel sorry for you for that.

 

[CoolBrees]

Oh I love myself. And America.

Unlike most Americans I come a military family that has spilled blood for this country.

But more than American, I consider myself a human above all else. Not a white guy. I only hate being associated with white men because I abhor what most white men hold dear.

I find them weak and stupid.

And since I am evolved enough not to believe sky gods I don't have those biases either.

So for me it goes :

Family -> Humanity -> America

Jeebus and White guy don't even make the list

 

[Taurus]

Nobody I hang out with is against equity, but I don't hang out with many white guys. I don't typically like us. We whine and cry about nothing and bemoan hard working minorities.

It isn't as bad here in The PNW, but in Texas where all the dummies live they simply can't exist on the level playing field.

White men are too lazy to succeed without our built in societal advantages and we will stop and nothing to hold onto our Ill gotten power.

My belief is that they know full well how they've treated minorities and they're terrified of giving up anything lest they be treated the same.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Oh I love myself. And America.

Unlike most Americans I come a military family that has spilled blood for this country.

But more than American, I consider myself a human above all else. Not a white guy. I only hate being associated with white men because I abhor what most white men hold dear.

I find them weak and stupid.

And since I am evolved enough not to believe sky gods I don't have those biases either.

So for me it goes :

Family -> Humanity -> America

Jeebus and White guy don't even make the list

 

[CoolBrees]

I'm not watching that but thanks for the link

 

[SFIDC3]

Typical white christian nationalist type response.....dude has already stated his feelings about the notion of "sky gods" and Jesus but someone can't resist cementing those very feelings for him.....good job!!!!!!

 

[Snarky Sack]

Equality isn't possible in society.

Equity, on the other hand, is.

But the problem equity has is that my fellow cis-white guys are too fragile to act on a level playing field. Most of us weren't lucky enough to have military parents to drive the benefits and importance of society like I was. That teamwork and each member is critical to success of something bigger than you.

Most were taught the bootstrap nonsense by ungrateful and lazy Boomers who did nothing but destroy what their parents built.

Is that all, though?

So equity has nothing to do with skin color?

Or are you saying that people of color have inherent disadvantages analogous to being too short to see over a fence?

 

[Optimus Prime]

Is that all, though?

So equity has nothing to do with skin color?

Or are you saying that people of color have inherent disadvantages analogous to being too short to see over a fence?

If you honestly don’t get the analogy nothing I or anyone else here says is going to make any difference

 

[Snarky Sack]

If you honestly don’t get the analogy nothing I or anyone else here says is going to make any difference

I get the analogy. I have seen that picture or similar ones many times as a Special Education teacher. Another analogy is that you don't throw a life ring to every kid in the pool for equality's sake, you throw it to the one who cannot swim and fell in.

I'm asking if you believe that being a person of color is a disadvantage analogous to my students being disadvantaged by their disabilities?

 

[CoolBrees]

Is that all, though?

So equity has nothing to do with skin color?

Or are you saying that people of color have inherent disadvantages analogous to being too short to see over a fence?

Institutionally, yes.

The differently abled have experienced institutional exclusion based on inherent traits out of their control. Just like people of color, women, non-christians and LGBTQ.

Some of the more obvious inequities were dealt with via equality - ramps, truncated dome on curbs, talking crosswalks, handles instead knobs. etc.

But the institutional inequity - being seen as weak or incapable, being spoken to like you are a simpleton still exists and many Job positions and free time activities remain unattainable for many that are differently abled.

So where it is certainly a different reason for the inequity than those who experience it for their skin color, gender, etc, nevertheless they both experience it greatly

 

[Lapaz]

This is odd b/c I think differently than most replies here. I think he checks a lot of boxes. Especially for those that would prefer to have laws specifically made for, and to favor christian/evangelical beliefs (or some warped version of it). Although as mentioned above, he doesn't have much charisma, but I don't think that would be that detrimental to types of voters he would attract. Then again, I don't think trump would throw his support towards him, since Pence didn't help overthrow the government for him, and apparently a lot of republicans are also angry about that as well

This is true that he should be appealing to evangelicals, but they are mindlessly supporting Trump, even though Pence is one of them. Pence is a minority among evangelicals with respect to law and order, but he’s one of them on the appeal of a theocracy.

 

[Snarky Sack]

Institutionally, yes.

The differently abled have experienced institutional exclusion based on inherent traits out of their control. Just like people of color, women, non-christians and LGBTQ.

Differently abled? I'm a professional who works with children who have disabilities. We do not say differently abled. That is absurd. They do not have any special powers that no one else has. Blind people don't have super sharp hearing or any of that other nonsense. We worked with them because they have disabilities not because they are differently abled.

Some of the more obvious inequities were dealt with via equality - ramps, truncated dome on curbs, talking crosswalks, handles instead knobs. etc.

But the institutional inequity - being seen as weak or incapable, being spoken to like you are a simpleton still exists and many Job positions and free time activities remain unattainable for many that are differently abled.

So where it is certainly a different reason for the inequity than those who experience it for their skin color, gender, etc, nevertheless they both experience it greatly

So is there a cute picture that illustrates that particular inequity?

 

[CoolBrees]

Illustrations are typically made to simplify complex subjects into understandable information for those whom lack the critical thinking skills to grasp said subject.

That is why we gave you a pretty picture.

We're doing our best to help you keep up. I am sorry we are failing you so miserably.

 

[LA - L.A.]

Differently abled? I'm a professional who works with children who have disabilities. We do not say differently abled. That is absurd. They do not have any special powers that no one else has.

"Differently abled" means having abilities that are different from others. If one person has the ability to hear and another person doesn't, then those two people are in fact "differently abled."

You are obssessed with judging and singling people out on the criteria of superior or inferior. If you didn't have that obsession, you would be able to understand that "differently abled" doesn't mean anyone has special powers.

It's absurd for anyone to interpret "differently abled" as meaning someone has special powers. It's especially absurd and alarming when it's coming from someone who claims to have an advanced college degree and works with children with disabilities.

It's like finding out that a fox was granted the security contract for the henhouse.

 

[Snarky Sack]

"Differently abled" means having abilities that are different from others. If one person has the ability to hear and another person doesn't, then those two people are in fact "differently abled."

If you are trying to be PC, you are falling short, is my point.

You are obssessed with judging and singling people out on the criteria of superior or inferior. If you didn't have that obsession, you would be able to understand that "differently abled" doesn't mean anyone has special powers.

It's absurd for anyone to interpret "differently abled" as meaning someone has special powers. It's especially absurd and alarming when it's coming from someone who claims to have an advanced college degree and works with children with disabilities.

It's like finding out that a fox was granted the security contract for the henhouse.

No, it is like finding out that someone more educated than you on the subject of children with disabilities knows more than you on the subject of children with disabilities. That should not be a surprise.

 

[Snarky Sack]

Illustrations are typically made to simplify complex subjects into understandable information for those whom lack the critical thinking skills to grasp said subject.

That is why we gave you a pretty picture.

We're doing our best to help you keep up. I am sorry we are failing you so miserably.

Don't blame yourself, CoolBrees. This forum seems to attract that. Maybe with better role models, you would be doing better. Allah knows I've tried.