Now is not the time to talk about gun control (1 Viewer)

[brandon]

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10 killed in Boulder shooting: Victims identified, suspect charged

Police said 10 people were killed, including an officer, after a shooting at a King Soopers grocery store in Boulder, Colorado.

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The U.S. Is the Only Country Among Its Peers in Which Guns Are the Leading Cause of Death Among Children and Teens​

Ranking (number of deaths) by leading cause of mortality for children and teens ages 1-19 years, U.S. and peer countries, 2020
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	Firearm	Motor vehicles	Other injuries	Congenital disease	Cancer	Substance use	Heart disease
U.S.	1(4,357)	2(4,112)	3(3,879)	4(3,166)	5(1,767)	6(1,552)	7(687)
Australia	11(10)	1(188)	4(95)	3(104)	2(160)	8(19)	6(22)
Austria	9(4)	1(49)	4(30)	2(42)	2(42)	6(9)	7(6)
Belgium	9(5)	1(73)	3(42)	3(42)	2(64)	11(4)	7(10)
Canada	5(48)	1(294)	4(153)	3(165)	2(234)	6(45)	8(33)
France	8(48)	1(471)	3(300)	4(288)	2(432)	12(17)	6(70)
Germany	13(14)	2(406)	4(194)	3(303)	1(411)	9(29)	6(77)
Japan	15(5)	2(365)	4(313)	3(333)	1(492)	14(9)	6(114)
Netherlands	13(2)	2(73)	4(35)	3(70)	1(103)	11(4)	7(12)
Sweden	9(4)	2(38)	4(27)	3(32)	1(62)	6(9)	6(9)
Switzerland	6(5)	3(32)	4(24)	2(33)	1(41)	7(4)	9(3)
U.K.	15(8)	3(291)	4(183)	2(322)	1(417)	9(62)	7(76)

Child and Teen Firearm Mortality in the U.S. and Peer Countries

Firearms recently became the number one cause of death for children in the United States, surpassing motor vehicle deaths and those caused by other injuries. This brief examines how gun violence an…

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[brandon]

"There's no such thing as gun violence. There's only human violence. It's intellectually unsound to state otherwise, and the number one cause of death for children in America remains abortion."

There's no such thing as abortion. There's only women's healthcare.

"Intellectually unsound." What a moron.

 

[Optimus Prime]

North Carolina residents no longer need a permit from a local sheriff to buy a handgun after the state's GOP-led legislature voted Wednesday to override Democratic Gov. Roy Cooper's veto of the measure.

The state House voted last month to enact the bill, which gets rid of North Carolina's longstanding permit system requiring sheriffs to perform character evaluations and criminal history checks of pistol applicants.

Cooper vetoed the bill Friday, claiming it would make it easier for "domestic abusers and other dangerous people" to access handguns and make it harder for law enforcement to stop those people from committing violent crimes.

The change in North Carolina's gun laws comes as a community in neighboring Tennessee reels from a mass school shooting that left six people, including three children, dead.

Both Democratic and Republican lawmakers called for action after the school shooting in Nashville, but they differ on what action should be taken to address the gun violence crisis plaguing the U.S., causing a familiar partisan gridlock on how to move forward. The Nashville shooter used an AR-15-style rifle, not a handgun.

The North Carolina bill also will allow guns on some school properties where religious services are held, effective Dec. 1. The school targeted in Nashville was a small Christian school............

MSN

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[Optimus Prime]

yep, some blaming the mental illness that is being trans for the shooting and something should absolutely be done about that

 

[MT15]

Clay Higgins is an extremist who is unqualified for his office.

 

[Optimus Prime]

……Carlos Guillermo Smith, special projects manager for Equality Florida and a Democratic former state congressman representing the Pulse community, is angered by Republicans’ resolve to focus on a murderer’s identity only when it suits them.

“After Pulse, the far right immediately seized on the killer’s Muslim faith to advance an Islamophobic agenda. And if they can’t make it about the shooter’s identity they’ll make it about unlocked doors, or mental health, or video games,” he said.

“The same politicians who repeatedly say it’s too soon to discuss gun safety reform after another mass shooting are tripping over themselves to blame gun violence on transgender people. It’s desperate, bigoted and a nakedly obvious attempt to change the subject from guns.

“Does any serious person believe the solution to America’s gun violence epidemic is banning medically necessary healthcare for trans people? It’s the guns, and everyone knows it.”…….

‘Desperate and bigoted’: the right uses latest shooting to malign trans people

From hateful rants on Fox news to falsehoods in Congress, the far right exploits the tragedy to demonize vulnerable people

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[Optimus Prime]

Literally, “Now is not the time to talk about gun control”
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The Republican governor of Tennessee called for compassion and an end to mass violence but pointedly declined to mention guns or gun control in a message to his state after three nine-year-old children and three adults were shot dead at a Christian school in Nashville.

“I understand there is pain,” Bill Lee said in a short, pre-recorded video. “I understand the desperation to have answers, to place blame, to argue about a solution that could prevent this horrible tragedy.”

There will “come a time to ask how a person could do this”, Lee said. “There will come a time to discuss and debate policy. But this is not a time for hate or rage. That will not resolve or heal.”……..

Tennessee governor fails to mention gun control in message after shooting

Republican Bill Lee called for compassion in pre-recorded video but didn’t mention guns after six killed at Nashville school

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[el caliente]

 

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[MT15]

I shouldn’t even engage with this BS, but this is an objectively true statement. What about that statement isn’t accurate, el?

Here is a quote from the website you are promoting with that tweet. It doesn’t seem like it would be a fair, down the middle source does it?

“Most certainly the Democrats anticipated the anger that it would generate among the former president’s supporters. The Democrats are likely hoping there will be violent acts committed by MAGA Republicans, providing them with the impetus they need in order to declare a national emergency and allow Joe Biden (and the Obamunists), to invoke emergency powers to quell another “insurrection”. My guess is they have already thought out carefully which Constitutional rights will be suspended. First and foremost will be both the 1st and 2nd Amendments.

We are dealing with devious, evil people who are controlling the Democrat Party in America nowadays. They are entirely capable of taking whatever steps they deem necessary for them to maintain power, and to control the American people. The Soviet KGB, East German STASI, and the Nazi Gestapo and SS quickly come to mind when thinking about what Democrats are willing to do to Americans who disagree with them politically. They have truly crossed the line from liberalism and Marxism.”

 

[el caliente]

I shouldn’t even engage with this BS, but this is an objectively true statement. What about that statement isn’t accurate, el?

There is nothing wrong with what she said. The timing could have been better, but no, there is nothing wrong with what she said.

For example, if the Alt-Right came out in support of Dillon Roof, or, if folks had sympathy for him rather than the folks in the church. Time and place.

I think we can all agree that we need to show compassion to those struggling with mental problems, but the timing of this statement just seems tone deaf.

 

[MT15]

There is nothing wrong with what she said. The timing could have been better, but no, there is nothing wrong with what she said.

For example, if the Alt-Right came out in support of Dillon Roof, or, if folks had sympathy for him rather than the folks in the church. Time and place.

She’s not supporting the killer, though, is she? And we still don’t know the reason for the shooting, or even if it was related to the shooter‘s gender identity.

 

[el caliente]

She’s not supporting the killer, though, is she? And we still don’t know the reason for the shooting, or even if it was related to the shooter‘s gender identity.

All we know if that innocent people died at the hands of a crazy transitioning person. Not much to argue about that, it’s a fact.

 

[el caliente]

I can respect Jamaal Bowman for shouting at republicans who support the NRA, but shouldn’t he be yelling even more at the citizens in his own district. In his district (the Bronx) you have a 1 in 39 chance of being a victim of a violent crime.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

There is nothing wrong with what she said. The timing could have been better, but no, there is nothing wrong with what she said.

For example, if the Alt-Right came out in support of Dillon Roof, or, if folks had sympathy for him rather than the folks in the church. Time and place.

I think we can all agree that we need to show compassion to those struggling with mental problems, but the timing of this statement just seems tone deaf.

This might be the falsest of all false equivalencies. You can't be serious.