Nancy Pelosi's husband attacked in home (1 Viewer)

[GrandAdmiral]

This could go in several threads but deserves one of its own. Apparently, the suspect got into the home and was looking for the Speaker. The police saw some of the attack and the spouse is in surgery. Social media accounts point to him being an election denier. This is pretty forked up.

Paul Pelosi, Nancy Pelosi’s husband, attacked at couple’s home: Live updates | CNN Politics

Paul Pelosi, the husband of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, was attacked at the couple’s San Francisco home with a hammer, according to law enforcement sources. Follow live news updates here.

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Suspect shouted "Where is Nancy?" before assaulting Pelosi's husband at home, source says

Two sources tell CBS News a hammer was used by the assailant to break into Pelosi's home. The House speaker was not there at the time, according to her office.

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[TaylorB]

Here’s the thing: SFL was taken in by some disinformation that was amplified by his favorite sources. That could happen to anyone. Will he come back to this thread and admit he was misinformed? That’s the question.

The "questions" right wing twitter is asking about Pelosi (including this bit of misinformation) under the guise of "questioning corporate media" look rather like an off-ramp to avoid discussing whether years to personal anti-Nancy rhetoric resulted in someone close to her getting seriously hurt.

Everyone on this board knows this to be true, but instead we find ourselves snuffing out innuendo about whether someone whose head was ultimately bashed in was actually in danger.

IMO if @SaintForLife is willing to post twitter threads questioning the commonly understood narrative from every angle, then he should at least offer his own working theory as to what happened that the rest of us are missing (for example, was Paul Pelosi's skull fractured necessitating surgery, or not?). It is a really significant allegation to imply that someone who claims to have been critically injured with a hammer is lying (or if you're not saying that, what are you saying, specifically?). Also, not sure what became of the substacker's implication that this guy was a liberal and that this wasn't politically motivated, now that that is the attacker's defense.

I'm not advocating for accepting the media narrative as 100% true every time -- asking questions is great -- but there's a line of good-faith / bad-faith that right wing twitter crossed long ago. If all you do is poke holes without offering your own thoughts as to what happened, at some point it rings hollow.

 

[J-DONK]

Here’s the thing: SFL was taken in by some disinformation that was amplified by his favorite sources. That could happen to anyone. Will he come back to this thread and admit he was misinformed? That’s the question.

Going to be a cold day before that happens.

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[SaulGoodmanEsq]

Here’s the thing: SFL was taken in by some disinformation that was amplified by his favorite sources. That could happen to anyone. Will he come back to this thread and admit he was misinformed? That’s the question.

He'll take a break only pausing in on Tuesday night/Wednesday to gloat over Republican victories (but, of course, he's not a Republican) and come back when he has new marching orders saying that, in the interim, he was 'busy' or something.

 

[SaintForLife]

Here’s the thing: SFL was taken in by some disinformation that was amplified by his favorite sources. That could happen to anyone. Will he come back to this thread and admit he was misinformed? That’s the question.

Disinformation from The Today Show?



Why won't NBC say why it didn't meet their editorial standards? That should be an easy thing to do right?

 

[SaintForLife]

The "questions" right wing twitter is asking about Pelosi (including this bit of misinformation) under the guise of "questioning corporate media" look rather like an off-ramp to avoid discussing whether years to personal anti-Nancy rhetoric resulted in someone close to her getting seriously hurt.

Everyone on this board knows this to be true, but instead we find ourselves snuffing out innuendo about whether someone whose head was ultimately bashed in was actually in danger.

IMO if @SaintForLife is willing to post twitter threads questioning the commonly understood narrative from every angle, then he should at least offer his own working theory as to what happened that the rest of us are missing (for example, was Paul Pelosi's skull fractured necessitating surgery, or not?). It is a really significant allegation to imply that someone who claims to have been critically injured with a hammer is lying (or if you're not saying that, what are you saying, specifically?). Also, not sure what became of the substacker's implication that this guy was a liberal and that this wasn't politically motivated, now that that is the attacker's defense.

I'm not advocating for accepting the media narrative as 100% true every time -- asking questions is great -- but there's a line of good-faith / bad-faith that right wing twitter crossed long ago. If all you do is poke holes without offering your own thoughts as to what happened, at some point it rings hollow.

I have no idea what happened, but if someone broke into my house for any reason, especially to kill me or my wife, there's no way in hell I would have come our of the bathroom or go back toward the intruder when I answered the door for the cops like Pelosi did.

Why didn't he lock himself in the bathroom or exit the house when he opened the door for the police? How did their security system that has lots of camera or the Capitol Police not see this guy breaking into their house.

Something is off especially considering the left has used that to try connect it to the right wing.

 

[samiam5211]

Disinformation from The Today Show?



Why won't NBC say why it didn't meet their editorial standards? That should be an easy thing to do right?

Do you think this supports the nonsense about Paul Pelosi having buttsex with his attacker?

 

[SaintForLife]

Do you think this supports the nonsense about Paul Pelosi having buttsex with his attacker?

No I don't and I've never said anything about that.

 

[TaylorB]

I have no idea what happened, but if someone broke into my house for any reason, especially to kill me or my wife, there's no way in hell I would have come our of the bathroom or go back toward the intruder when I answered the door for the cops like Pelosi did.

Why didn't he lock himself in the bathroom or exit the house when he opened the door for the police? How did their security system that has lots of camera or the Capitol Police not see this guy breaking into their house.

Something is off especially considering the left has used that to try connect it to the right wing.

The commonly understood version of events, sworn to in a criminal complaint by the FBI, is that an unhinged person broke into the Pelosi home while spouting a bunch of right wing propaganda and bashed Nancy's husband's skull with a hammer.

As I understand it, the counter-narrative you support is that you have "no idea what happened", but you'd have reacted differently and it's a bad look for the right, so it must be a left wing conspiracy.

I will be on the edge of my seat watching DePape's criminal case to see which of these two narratives verifies. I am pretty sure DePape already saved the left a step by connecting the attack to right wing propaganda himself using nothing but his own words, actions, and legal defenses.

 

[Optimus Prime]

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[SaintForLife]

The commonly understood version of events, sworn to in a criminal complaint by the FBI, is that an unhinged person broke into the Pelosi home while spouting a bunch of right wing propaganda and bashed Nancy's husband's skull with a hammer.

As I understand it, the counter-narrative you support is that you have "no idea what happened", but you'd have reacted differently and it's a bad look for the right, so it must be a left wing conspiracy.

I will be on the edge of my seat watching DePape's criminal case to see which of these two narratives verifies. I am pretty sure DePape already saved the left a step by connecting the attack to right wing propaganda himself using nothing but his own words, actions, and legal defenses.

That's a nice post at all but you made no comment about the points I made. If you keep looking, maybe you can find a connection between Russia and DePape.

I know a bunch of right wingers that are illegal immigrants, travel to Mexico for drugs, & live with a nudist that has a BLM flag and LGTB sign. He's a typical right winger.

 

[MT15]

That's a nice post at all but you made no comment about the points I made. If you keep looking, maybe you can find a connection between Russia and DePape.

I know a bunch of right wingers that are illegal immigrants, travel to Mexico for drugs, & live with a nudist that has a BLM flag and LGTB sign. He's a typical right winger.

So, even though the break-in is on video, and NBC retracted the story that says Pelosi walked back towards DePape, you’re going to double down that we don’t know what happened?

Even though all of the left wing stuff is over a decade old, and he has been “red-pilled” since GamerGate, you’re going to ignore all that and go with the lie about him being a leftist? Even though his ramblings online are filled with election-denying, anti-Semitic Q nonsense? Even though his public defender is going to use his delusions about the stolen election as a mitigating factor in his defense? This is just sad, SFL.

Where is my shocked face? Lol. You’re nothing if not predictable. It should be beneath a decent person to continue peddling this crap, but here we are.

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

.............................. If you keep looking, maybe you can find a connection between Russia and DePape.

I wouldn't doubt it. He'd fit right into the Russian military.

 

[Farb]

Hopefully this isn’t paywalled:

Do one that shows all the left talking heads explaining that men can have babies next.....

 

[Farb]

Hunting magnificent animals like lions and elephants, where you're not hunting for the meat, is a thing of the past. Frankly, I don't know how anyone can do it.

So you don't agree it on personal level but not a sin or unchristian is it?

 

[Farb]

So, even though the break-in is on video, and NBC retracted the story that says Pelosi walked back towards DePape, you’re going to double down that we don’t know what happened?

Even though all of the left wing stuff is over a decade old, and he has been “red-pilled” since GamerGate, you’re going to ignore all that and go with the lie about him being a leftist? Even though his ramblings online are filled with election-denying, anti-Semitic Q nonsense? Even though his public defender is going to use his delusions about the stolen election as a mitigating factor in his defense? This is just sad, SFL.

Where is my shocked face? Lol. You’re nothing if not predictable. It should be beneath a decent person to continue peddling this crap, but here we are.

I saw something on Facebook and it struck me as funny but it was meme so I won't post it but it was basically saying"the first rule of underwear hammer fight club is you don't speak of underwear hammer fight club".

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

So you don't agree it on personal level but not a sin or unchristian is it?

Huh?

 

[TaylorB]

That's a nice post at all but you made no comment about the points I made.

Because in my experience, when I actually respond to facts you've demanded an explanation for, you don't give my responses meaningful consideration; you just list more facts and demand more explanations. I do have thoughts about your comments if you care to engage on that without it leading to more open ended demands.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I saw something on Facebook and it struck me as funny but it was meme so I won't post it but it was basically saying"the first rule of underwear hammer fight club is you don't speak of underwear hammer fight club".

"I saw something on Facebook and it struck me as funny but it was meme so I won't post it but it was basically saying 'a man got viciously attacked and we don't care because it's Nancy Pelosi's husband'."

Not sure about you the hunting you mentioned in the previous post, but I think this damn sure is unchristian.