Moderates that voted for Biden in Virginia are now voting Republican. (1 Viewer)

[Paul]

The middle makes the difference once again. Why?

McAuliffe made an error with the school issue to appease the CRT crowd. A costly strategic error.

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On another note CNN described Michelle Wu a moderate as the first woman of color to be mayor. The media recruiting minorities.

 

[samiam5211]

It's sad, but too many voters in this country are simply total idiots. I honestly don't know how anyone in their right mind could ever vote Republican again after 4 years of Trump and the Jan 6 insurrection.

Hatred of liberals and "owning the libs" overrides all rational thought. And democracy in the U.S. is probably coming to an end in Nov 2022 as a result.

It ended on January 21, 2010.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

It ended on January 21, 2010.

Yeah, the Citizens United decision was devastating. And the Tea Party was just Trumpism by a different name. And the 2013 Supreme Court ruling on the Voting Rights Act was also the final nail in the coffin.

And the Republicans will finally achieve one of their ultimate fascist goals in Nov 2022, when the Democrats never control the House of Representatives again. Maybe the Dems hang onto the Senate for a couple of more years, I don't know. But they will lose everything permanently in 2024 thanks to these new voter suppression laws.

 

[samiam5211]

Yeah, the Tea Party is just Trumpism by a different name. And the 2013 Supreme Court ruling on the Voting Rights Act was also the final nail in the coffin.

And the Republicans will finally achieve one of their ultimate fascist goals in Nov 2022, when the Democrats never control the House of Representatives ever again. Maybe the Dems hang onto the Senate for a couple of more years, I don't know. But they will lose everything permanently in 2024 thanks to these new voter suppression laws.

I was referring to the Citizens United ruling, but the Tea Party morphing into Trumpism is a good example of what was unleashed by Citizens United.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

I was referring to the Citizens United ruling, but the Tea Party morphing into Trumpism is a good example of what was unleashed by Citizens United.

Yeah, I just realized that and modified my post.

 

[Lapaz]

Wanting to promote a more diverse teacher population is not racist, it's good policy.

The way he phrased it was stupid, not racist.

I think it was worded stupidly, but any policy that favors one race over another is racist, so even saying we should have a more diverse teacher population could be racist. The question is whether it is better for society as a whole. Affirmative Action was/is racist, but I think the program is better for society, since it redressed past racism. Is diversity lacking in the teacher population due to racism? If so, then I would support affirmative action there as well.

Also, I believe more diversity in general is beneficial in many situations, because solving problems helps when diverse views are raised, but it isn’t clear to me that the teacher’s race is going to affect much, unless the teachers use their race to “color” what they teach. Teachers should be teaching a curriculum, without coloring it, so their race shouldn’t matter. It could be all black teachers, and it shouldn’t matter how or what history they teach. Teachers may want to insert material that isn’t part of the curriculum, but black teachers shouldn’t, anymore than a white nationalist shouldn’t insert material. All of our history should be taught, but we should be consistent on what we teach, regardless of race. It especially shouldn’t matter for math or science. What difference will the teacher’s make? Are we trying to redress a wrong by advocating more diversity? Are universities producing a diverse population of teachers that are not being hired due to racism?

 

[Lapaz]

Who embraced CRT? They basically ignored it. They should have actually shown what the Rs were objecting to, it wasn’t CRT. CRT is an academic theory from law school. It isn’t ever, ever taught in public primary or secondary schools. The whole issue is a ridiculous lie, but one that was used effectively by Rs.

The books they are getting ready to ban are factual accounts of the civil rights movement. Oh, and in TN they want to ban the Norman Rockwell painting of the little black girl being escorted to school. And in VA they want to ban a Pulitzer Prize winning book about slavery written by Toni Morrison. These are not jokes.

The same people are objecting to historical photographs of white people screaming at black students during desegregation. They think it shows the white people in a bad light. Of course it does, but it happened, you shouldn’t try to whitewash it. Or ban books that present what actually happened. This type of authoritarianism is troubling and should be just as troubling to Rs as the “cancel culture” they like to whine about.

But they don’t care. Everything they say that the Democrats do is actually what they are doing.

It’s my impression that many Democrats support CRT. I’ve hear radio callers on moderate programs say whites need to deal with it. They’re too fragile, but they must accept it. It seems to be particularly prevalent among the black community, and most of those are Democrats.

 

[Paul]

Changing your name and encouraging your children to marry a certain race is racist and pathetic.

I kept my name, however, I change the name of my son so he would not endure surname racism. I did not forced my children to do anything.


Stop the hate Sam.

 

[samiam5211]

I think it was worded stupidly, but any policy that favors one race over another is racist, so even saying we should have a more diverse teacher population could be racist. The question is whether it is better for society as a whole. Affirmative Action was/is racist, but I think the program is better for society, since it redressed past racism. Is diversity lacking in the teacher population due to racism? If so, then I would support affirmative action there as well.

Also, I believe more diversity in general is beneficial in many situations, because solving problems helps when diverse views are raised, but it isn’t clear to me that the teacher’s race is going to affect much, unless the teachers use their race to “color” what they teach. Teachers should be teaching a curriculum, without coloring it, so their race shouldn’t matter. It could be all black teachers, and it shouldn’t matter how or what history they teach. Teachers may want to insert material that isn’t part of the curriculum, but black teachers shouldn’t, anymore than a white nationalist shouldn’t insert material. All of our history should be taught, but we should be consistent on what we teach, regardless of race. It especially shouldn’t matter for math or science. What difference will the teacher’s make? Are we trying to redress a wrong by advocating more diversity? Are universities producing a diverse population of teachers that are not being hired due to racism?

Yea, you can say diversity without specifically meaning race.

That said, there is definitely a benefit to having teachers that are familiar with the life experience that their students are going through.

It's not about race, it is about their experience, but you can't separate the impact that race has on experience.

 

[MT15]

Teachers should be teaching a curriculum, without coloring it, so their race shouldn’t matter. It could be all black teachers, and it shouldn’t matter how or what history they teach. Teachers may want to insert material that isn’t part of the curriculum, but black teachers shouldn’t, anymore than a white nationalist shouldn’t insert material.

Oh, dear. Lapaz, teachers don’t just recite lessons, they tailor their classes to their students. All good teachers vary their lessons constantly. They update them to keep them relevant. You shouldn’t want to have everything be the same everywhere. My father was a history teacher, he used his personal experiences as a German immigrant who became a US citizen and then served in WWII. To ask someone to ignore their personal or family history in teaching is robbing students of that perspective. The same goes for a black teacher, or any other teacher. Children should be exposed to different viewpoints. Treating children like fragile flowers who cannot handle reality is doing them a huge disservice.

Also, I’m sure you didn’t mean it that way, but your one sentence basically equates black teachers with white nationalists. Yikes.

 

[Lapaz]

I think having Weingarten speak was the nail in the coffin for his campaign. He brought in all the big Dem players and he still got destroyed. I think parents especially didn't like the message that 'they are not your kids, they are our kids'.

I hope the Dems keep preaching 1.6, racism and Trump. It is a winning recipe for the new republican party that is starting to emerge.

I don’t think moderates are driven away by reminding people nor harping on the outrageous Republican support or misinformation associated with 1/6. That has almost nothing to do with Democratic problems. That is one of the biggest problem for Republicans, so it needs to remain a part of the Democratic discussion.

 

[insidejob]

Yeah, the Citizens United decision was devastating. And the Tea Party was just Trumpism by a different name. And the 2013 Supreme Court ruling on the Voting Rights Act was also the final nail in the coffin.

And the Republicans will finally achieve one of their ultimate fascist goals in Nov 2022, when the Democrats never control the House of Representatives again. Maybe the Dems hang onto the Senate for a couple of more years, I don't know. But they will lose everything permanently in 2024 thanks to these new voter suppression laws.

Citizens United, the Tea Party morphing into modern day Trumpism, the current political makeup of the Supreme Court, gerrymandering and voter suppression being codified into law in Republican controlled state legislatures nationwide while the essential platform of the GOP is the equivalent of making sure Democrats have to work twice as hard as ever to accomplish anything at all in DC (simultaneously telling anyone who will listen how pathetic it is that Democrats aren't getting more done while controlling the three branches of federal government - feigning ignorance to the role they play in the GOP's utterly childish "oppose and obstruct anything Democrats try to achieve so we can play victim to our own ineptitude" mantra) has pretty much created an all new kind of political gridlock in this country, the likes of which never before seen in our history, which could have repercussions that last longer than any of us who are talking about it today. The GOP learned a lot from January 6 and have set into motion everything that will be necessary for it to be successful when they try again with an actual competent politician and not someone who's never read a book in his life.

I hate to admit it, but it really feels like every presidential election that occurs while Trumpism is still the GOP playbook is going to be the most important election of our lives. The best way to prevent another fascist, authoritarian maniac from taking over the White House is to never stop doing the dirty work of people like Stacy Abrams. The more people in this country that we can get to actually believe that they have a stake in who gets elected and what laws are on the ballots when it comes time to vote, the less likely we are to see our Constitution torn to shreds and the United States of America become a cautionary tale to the rest of the world about what happens when only about half of the country's citizens participate in the political process because they've been hoodwinked into believing that a political coup just isn't possible here.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

It’s my impression that many Democrats support CRT. I’ve hear radio callers on moderate programs say whites need to deal with it. They’re too fragile, but they must accept it. It seems to be particularly prevalent among the black community, and most of those are Democrats.

What exactly is the problem with critical race theory? Why is this such a boogeyman for Republicans and "moderates"?

We're supposed to pretend as a society that race has nothing to do with major aspects of American history and society? That doesn't seem smart.

This is one of the major problems affecting this country right now -- we've never had a full reckoning with the Civil War. Over the past 150 years, we've allowed the South to create this mythology that people like Jefferson Davis and Robert E Lee were heroes and that Jim Crow laws really weren't all that bad. Nothing is further from the truth.

 

[insidejob]

What exactly is the problem with critical race theory? Why is this such a boogeyman for Republicans and "moderates"?

We're supposed to pretend as a society that race has nothing to do with major aspects of American history and society? That doesn't seem smart.

This is one of the major problems affecting this country right now -- we've never had a full reckoning with the Civil War. Over the past 150 years, we've allowed the South to create this mythology that people like Jefferson Davis and Robert E Lee were heroes and that Jim Crow laws really weren't all that bad. Nothing is further from the truth.

The only "problem" with CRT is that most people don't even know what it is, just that they've been told that it's bad.

ETA: It was a huge mistake after the Civil War to allow all of the Confederate monuments honoring and exalting what was actually a treasonous attempt to overthrow the government to even become a reality. They should have shut that shirt down before it ever started. It's allowed the South to rewrite and whitewash what actually happened at the time and numerous generations to believe that the Confederate states tried to do something noble. It's why slavery is barely mentioned on plantation tours. The federal government at the time should have taken the view that "To the victor go the spoils," and erected statues and monuments of Union generals all across the South.

 

[BobE]

Holy hell this thread in completely amazing. You have Terry who whole not beloved wasn't hated in Va who one day one of his campaign tried linking Glen to Trump even bringing in Biden, Harris, Obama and the whole crew to stump for him and link Glen to Trump while minus a throw away sentence ignored Trump. Then only 3 or 4 days before election day Terry says that this election has nothing Trump.

Then you have lifelong Democrats telling you they voted for Glen because due to covid they had a chance to really see what their children were really being taught and told. You have a girl who was raped in a bathroom (btw she wasn't his first Vitim) Only for the school, school board and school superintendent say it didn't happen then that weren't aware only for emails to show they fully knew. But they had to be careful with the situation not because a girl got raped but the rapist wore a skirt. Then to add the cherry on top they have the father of the girl arrested for confronting the school board. Then Terry walks on out and basically tells people they don't have a right to say what their kids be taught and the public schools in Va are top notch all while sending his kids to private school.

Then and this may actually be my favorite part. There a mini white supremacy rally at a glen rally (note when having a white supremacy rally try not to send a Black person it kind of gives things away) where Terry's campaign is on it with in seconds only for the entire thing to blows up in their faces because here come the really crazy part.....it was a set up. Luckily the Lincoln project step in at the end of the day to take credit for it. I guess they haven't grifted enough money from you guys yet, who knows.

Then according to this thread a white supremist was elected Gov, a Black woman was elected to Lt Gov but she isn't really black because she doesn't think like you and a Cuban was elected AG but he isn't really Cuban because he doesn't think like you. I'm actually afraid to tell y'all that Glen even flipped a Majority Black district. But let's be honest. Y'all don't think those people were really Black any ways.

Yeah I don't know Terry lost either. Until next time MAP.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

The only "problem" with CRT is that most people don't even know what it is, just that they've been told that it's bad.

Yeah, all of these Republican morons keep mentioning CRT, yet none of them are willing to explain why they are whining about it.

"It makes white people feel bad."....WAAHH!!

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I kept my name, however, I change the name of my son so he would not endure surname racism. I did not forced my children to do anything.


Stop the hate Sam.

Why didn't you just tell him to ignore it so it would go away? Sounds like you hate yourself more than anything else.

Either that or you are here only to be contrarian.

 

[insidejob]

Then according to this thread a white supremist was elected Gov, a Black woman was elected to Lt Gov but she isn't really black because she doesn't think like you and a Cuban was elected AG but he isn't really Cuban because he doesn't think like you

Where were all of these accusations made? I seem to have missed them.

 

[samiam5211]

Then and this may actually be my favorite part. There a mini white supremacy rally at a glen rally (note when having a white supremacy rally try not to send a Black person it kind of gives things away) where Terry's campaign is on it with in seconds only for the entire thing to blows up in their faces because here come the really crazy part.....it was a set up. Luckily the Lincoln project step in at the end of the day to take credit for it. I guess they haven't grifted enough money from you guys yet, who knows.

This is why i thought it was clearly just a parody. They didn't intend for people to actually believe that they were supporters of the Republican candidate.

I think they intentionally included a black guy so it would be clear it was a parody and not some fake sting operation like Project Veritas tries to do.