Moderates that voted for Biden in Virginia are now voting Republican. (5 Viewers)

[Paul]

The middle makes the difference once again. Why?

McAuliffe made an error with the school issue to appease the CRT crowd. A costly strategic error.

Terry McAuliffe’s War on Parents | National Review

Parents know the most about their kids, care the most about their kids, and should have a say in their education.

www.nationalreview.com

On another note CNN described Michelle Wu a moderate as the first woman of color to be mayor. The media recruiting minorities.

 

[Slackermod]

This thread has veered into a bit of name-calling and personal insults. Keep your posts civil and dispute the ideas presented without personal attacks.

 

[samiam5211]

I think the left gives Trump way too much credit. I don't see the blind loyalty that everyone claims with Trump.
Most conservatives and Repubs I know don't like the guy and don't want him to run again, although the melt down would be fun to watch. We did like his policy and maybe that is what is confusing to dems.
Are there actual Trump fans out there? I am sure there are, I just don't know of any.

Then again, I don't know any white nationalists but I am told they are everywhere.

You may not see it.

I see it every time I visit my family. Maybe you don’t interact with anyone who is a Trump supporter above all else. That doesn’t mean they aren’t out there.

 

[coldseat]

You may not see it.

I see it every time I visit my family. Maybe you don’t interact with anyone who is a Trump supporter above all else. That doesn’t mean they aren’t out there.

He sees it. He's just lying out of his arse. It's all over him and ubiquitous in the south.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

He sees it. He's just lying out of his arse. It's all over him an ubiquitous in the south.

His comments don't make any sense, I don't even understand his "argument", if you can even call it that.

Everyone sees it when you turn on the news and you see a Trump rally with hundreds of Trumpster idiots in attendance. And he acts like all those people don't even exist.

 

[Farb]

His comments don't make any sense, I don't even understand his "argument", if you can even call it that.

Everyone sees it when you turn on the news and you see a Trump rally with hundreds of Trumpster idiots in attendance. And he acts like all those people don't even exist.

Did I say they don't exist or did I say that I am sure they are out there, just not in the numbers you all want to pretend they are? I will wait on this one.

The fact you can't even discuss this without flat out lying is telling.

I see Antifa on TV too, but I am told they don't exist either so which is it? I see the same Brandon voters burning down autozone and Target but that is not real is it? If the teevee shows them they must be real? Is that the standard of truth for the alt-left now?

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

Did I say they don't exist or did I say that I am sure they are out there, just not in the numbers you all want to pretend they are? I will wait on this one.

The fact you can't even discuss this without flat out lying is telling.

I see Antifa on TV too, but I am told they don't exist either so which is it? I see the same Brandon voters burning down autozone and Target but that is not real is it? If the teevee shows them they must be real? Is that the standard of truth for the alt-left now?

This is a pointless debate. How do you prove that there are only a handful of Trump supporters out there vs 74 million supporters? You can't "prove it" either way.

However, since 74 million people voted for Trump in 2020, it's pretty silly of you to argue that there aren't millions of Trump supporters out there.

You still have no explanation for why McConnell and McCarthy continue to bend the knee for Trump, despite their criticism of Trump after Jan 6. I explained to you how McConnell acquitted Trump during the second impeachment trial, despite criticizing him regarding Jan 6. And you have no explanation.

You still are not willing to define what a "RINO" is in the modern Republican Party, either.

Either you don't have an answer for my questions or you won't answer. Which one is it?

 

[MT15]

Did I say they don't exist or did I say that I am sure they are out there, just not in the numbers you all want to pretend they are? I will wait on this one.

The fact you can't even discuss this without flat out lying is telling.

I see Antifa on TV too, but I am told they don't exist either so which is it? I see the same Brandon voters burning down autozone and Target but that is not real is it? If the teevee shows them they must be real? Is that the standard of truth for the alt-left now?

Conveniently ignoring the poll results I posted. Figures. Two thirds of Rs want Trump to be the leader of their party. But they don’t exist.

In May the majority of Rs still thought Trump was president. Has it changed that much since then?

53% of Republicans view Trump as true U.S. president -Reuters/Ipsos

A majority of Republicans still believe Donald Trump won the 2020 U.S. presidential election and blame his loss to Joe Biden on illegal voting, according to a new Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll.

www.reuters.com

Too long ago? Here is Pew from October

Two-thirds of Republicans want Trump to retain major political role; 44% want him to run again in 2024

About a third of Republicans (32%) say they would not like Donald Trump to remain a national political figure for many years to come.

www.pewresearch.org

 

[brandon]

I see the same Brandon voters burning down autozone and Target but that is not real is it?

I can assure you that none of my voters did anything of the sort.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I can assure you that none of my voters did anything of the sort.

I voted for you and did not burn down an Autozone. I did deface a PepBoys by giving the last guy a moustache to match the others, though. Does that count?

 

[Farb]

This is a pointless debate. How do you prove that there are only a handful of Trump supporters out there vs 74 million supporters? You can't "prove it" either way.

However, since 74 million people voted for Trump in 2020, it's pretty silly of you to argue that there aren't millions of Trump supporters out there.

You still have no explanation for why McConnell and McCarthy continue to bend the knee for Trump, despite their criticism of Trump after Jan 6. I explained to you how McConnell acquitted Trump during the second impeachment trial, despite criticizing him regarding Jan 6. And you have no explanation.

You still are not willing to define what a "RINO" is in the modern Republican Party, either.

Either you don't have an answer for my questions or you won't answer. Which one is it?

"This is a pointless debate, you can't prove it either way. Now watch as I continue to try and prove it". Got to love the self awareness.

You want my explanation on why McConnell criticized Trump for 1.6 and then acquitted or didn't put the articles on the senate floor, 2 different things? Do I really have to explain that you, because I think even you can kind of understand politics. That is what a RINO does, talk out of one side of their mouth and then do a completely different thing. See Linsey Graham. Feel better?

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

"This is a pointless debate, you can't prove it either way. Now watch as I continue to try and prove it". Got to love the self awareness.

You want my explanation on why McConnell criticized Trump for 1.6 and then acquitted or didn't put the articles on the senate floor, 2 different things? Do I really have to explain that you, because I think even you can kind of understand politics. That is what a RINO does, talk out of one side of their mouth and then do a completely different thing. See Linsey Graham. Feel better?

You're the one lacking self-awareness -- "There aren't many Trump supporters out there, but 74 million people voted for him in 2020." That is your argument and you make ZERO sense.

What you wrote about McConnell also makes zero sense. Why would a "RINO" acquit Trump in BOTH impeachment trials? Explain it.

And if McConnell does "talk out of both sides of his mouth", then you're basically conceding that he is afraid of Trump and that he DOES bend the knee for Trump. You said earlier that he doesn't bend the knee for Trump.

You're so confused.

 

[Farb]

All of your answers are in the letter behind McConnells name. 'R'. That is why he 'bends' the knee to Trump, the sitting president at that time.
What other option between Trump and Biden were there to vote for? Those were the choices. That is why he got millions of votes.
Maybe because the 'impeachments' were garbage political ploys and didn't deserve a vote? That would be my guess.
I have no idea if McConnell is afraid of Trump. I do know McConnell is scared of not being reelected so that is why he said what he had to say and did what he had to do. Not for Trump but for his political future.
You can keep pumping up your boogeyman all you want. You can continue to think that all republicans and even conservatives love Trump. You are wrong but that doesn't stop you guys anyway.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

All of your answers are in the letter behind McConnells name. 'R'. That is why he 'bends' the knee to Trump, the sitting president at that time.
What other option between Trump and Biden were there to vote for? Those were the choices. That is why he got millions of votes.
Maybe because the 'impeachments' were garbage political ploys and didn't deserve a vote? That would be my guess.
I have no idea if McConnell is afraid of Trump. I do know McConnell is scared of not being reelected so that is why he said what he had to say and did what he had to do. Not for Trump but for his political future.
You can keep pumping up your boogeyman all you want. You can continue to think that all republicans and even conservatives love Trump. You are wrong but that doesn't stop you guys anyway.

Trump was NOT the sitting President in Feb 2021, at the conclusion of the 2nd impeachment trial. You can't get anything correct, can you?

Yes, I see....74 million people voted for Trump in 2020, but only a few hundred or a few thousand of those people are hard core Trumpsters. That makes a lot of sense. I should just take your word for it. Please.

You stated this:
I have no idea if McConnell is afraid of Trump. I do know McConnell is scared of not being reelected so that is why he said what he had to say and did what he had to do. Not for Trump but for his political future.

Now you are REALLY contradicting yourself. If an ex-President like Trump has very few followers, then why on Earth did McConnell and over 40 other Republican Senators feel pressured to acquit him???

Explain this.

 

[J-DONK]

Did I say they don't exist or did I say that I am sure they are out there, just not in the numbers you all want to pretend they are? I will wait on this one.

The fact you can't even discuss this without flat out lying is telling.

I see Antifa on TV too, but I am told they don't exist either so which is it? I see the same Brandon voters burning down autozone and Target but that is not real is it? If the teevee shows them they must be real? Is that the standard of truth for the alt-left now?

Are you using some very narrow qualification to measure as Trump support? For example only those that go to rallies? We have polling data on if conservatives think Trump should run in 2024. It's overwhelmingly, yes.

I do know it would be much easier to meet a Trump supporter then a member of Antifa considering Antifa is not an actual national organization you can belong too.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I do know McConnell is scared of not being reelected so that is why he said what he had to say and did what he had to do. Not for Trump but for his political future.

So he had to act pro-Trump for his political future, except that you also say:

I think the left gives Trump way too much credit. I don't see the blind loyalty that everyone claims with Trump.

You see how these two things are completely contradictory, right?

 

[MT15]

Not to mention he is still ignoring the polls which show that most Rs want Trump to be the head of the party. Still.

 

[Farb]

You guys take a poll of all the conservative you hang out with and get back to me. Otherwise, just stick to your propaganda to keep you in fear of big bad Trump. Whatever works for your fear and outrage. That is is all they care about anyway.

You guys have to link Trump to racist/white nationalist. Trump = racist.
The media needs you to believe this so that they can continue to racist/white supremacy narrative. That is all they have left in their playbook. They cannot win elections without it. That much is obvious.

ETA: After thinking on this briefly:

Maybe I am wrong too. Maybe the more the media shows us that Trump was 100% correct on the corruption and activitist of the media that people are waking up and saying "yep, crazy man was right after all". I know I personally didn't like some of his rhetoric but I will be damned if most of it turned out to be 100% true.

You guys convinced me. I stand with Trump 100%. You guys are very good at persuasion. Cheers to you guys! Well done!!

 

[samiam5211]

You guys convinced me. I stand with Trump 100%. You guys are very good at persuasion. Cheers to you guys! Well done!!

Always happy to help people get out of the closet.