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[SaintForLife]

I figured we needed a thread specifically about the media.

There was a very big correction recently by the Washington Post.


That story was supposedly "independently confirmed" by CNN, NBC News, USA Today, ABC News, & PBS News Hour. How could they all have gotten the quote wrong if they actually independently confirmed the story?






Why do all the errors always go in one political direction and not closer to 50/50?

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

Number of non-corrupt politicians Farb has voted for in his life: 0.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I've never heard anyone blame 60 minutes for what news media turned into and where it is now.

I've heard the 24-7 news channels, I've heard the OJ Trial (where news and entertainment blended and anchors/commentators turned into celebrities themselves) I've definitely heard Rush Limbaugh and Fox News but 60 Minutes?

Interesting take but Chris Wallace would certainly know
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[SaintForLife]

 

[MT15]

I've never heard anyone blame 60 minutes for what news media turned into and where it is now.

I've heard the 24-7 news channels, I've heard the OJ Trial (where news and entertainment blended and anchors/commentators turned into celebrities themselves) I've definitely heard Rush Limbaugh and Fox News but 60 Minutes?

Interesting take but Chris Wallace would certainly know
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MSN

I think he has a point, that 60 Minutes was the first time News was actually profitable and not viewed as a public service by the networks. Once the profit motive set in, then all editorial decisions are forever changed.

 

[SaintForLife]

It is usually 6 months to a year for 'conspiracy theories' or 'Russian disinformation' to be proven true and then completely ignored by the media. Wash, rinse, repeat.

The memo must have went out that is okay to confirm the laptop was Hunter Biden's. Is the media trying to get out in front of the story because it will be bad?

 

[SaintForLife]

Yep the memo went out that it's okay to confirm it now.

 

[MT15]

 

[MT15]

From your article: do you even read them before you post?

“The verifiable emails are a small fraction of 217 gigabytes of data provided to The Post on a portable hard drive by Republican activist Jack Maxey. He said the contents of the portable drive originated from Biden’s MacBook Pro, which Biden reportedly dropped off at a computer repair shop in Wilmington, Del., in April 2019 and never reclaimed.

The vast majority of the data — and most of the nearly 129,000 emails it contained — could not be verified by either of the two security experts who reviewed the data for The Post.”

“Among the reasons for the inconclusive findings was sloppy handling of the data, which damaged some records. The experts found the data had been repeatedly accessed and copied by people other than Biden over nearly three years. The MacBook itself is now in the hands of the FBI, which is investigating whether Biden properly reported income from business dealings.

Most of the data obtained by The Post lacks cryptographic features that would help experts make a reliable determination of authenticity, especially in a case where the original computer and its hard drive are not available for forensic examination. Other factors, such as emails that were only partially downloaded, also stymied the security experts’ efforts to verify content.”

 

[MT15]

Also from the article. Emphasis mine. Oh, and Maxey is a Steve Bannon employee.

“In their examinations, Green and Williams found evidence that people other than Hunter Biden had accessed the drive and written files to it, both before and after the initial stories in the New York Post and long after the laptop itself had been turned over to the FBI.

Maxey had alerted The Washington Post to this issue in advance, saying that others had accessed the data to examine its contents and make copies of files. But the lack of what experts call a “clean chain of custody” undermined Green’s and Williams’s ability to determine the authenticity of most of the drive’s contents.

“The drive is a mess,” Green said.”

“They also noted that while cryptographic signatures can verify that an email was sent from a particular account, they cannot verify who controlled that account when the email was sent. Hackers sometimes create fake email accounts or gain access to authentic ones as part of disinformation campaigns — a possibility that cannot be ruled out with regard to the email files on Biden’s laptop.

Williams wrote in his technical report that timestamps on a sampling of documents and operating system indexes he examined were consistent with each other, suggesting the authenticity of at least some of the files that lacked cryptographic signatures. But he and Green agreed that sophisticated hackers could have altered the drive’s contents, including timestamps, in a way difficult and perhaps impossible to detect through forensic examination alone.”

 

[coldseat]

Yep the memo went out that it's okay to confirm it now.

You so desperately want to believe this is the biggest political corruption case that involves President Biden, trying to promote every piece of news as some grand revelation/cover up. At most, if anything nefarious can even be found/proved, this case is about tax evasion by Hunter Biden and nothing more.

The verifiable emails are a small fraction of 217 gigabytes of data provided to The Post on a portable hard drive by Republican activist Jack Maxey. He said the contents of the portable drive originated from Biden’s MacBook Pro, which Biden reportedly dropped off at a computer repair shop in Wilmington, Del., in April 2019 and never reclaimed.
The vast majority of the data — and most of the nearly 129,000 emails it contained — could not be verified by either of the two security experts who reviewed the data for The Post. Neither found clear evidence of tampering in their examinations, but some of the records that might have helped verify contents were not available for analysis, they said. The Post was able in some instances to find documents from other sources that matched content on the laptop that the experts were not able to assess.


Among the reasons for the inconclusive findings was sloppy handling of the data, which damaged some records. The experts found the data had been repeatedly accessed and copied by people other than Biden over nearly three years. The MacBook itself is now in the hands of the FBI, which is investigating whether Biden properly reported income from business dealings.
Most of the data obtained by The Post lacks cryptographic features that would help experts make a reliable determination of authenticity, especially in a case where the original computer and its hard drive are not available for forensic examination. Other factors, such as emails that were only partially downloaded, also stymied the security experts’ efforts to verify content.

The Washington Post’s forensic findings are unlikely to resolve that debate, offering instead only the limited revelation that some of the data on the portable drive appears to be authentic. The security experts who examined the data for The Post struggled to reach definitive conclusions about the contents as a whole, including whether all of it originated from a single computer or could have been assembled from files from multiple computers and put on the portable drive.

 

[MT15]

Just read the article, SFL, once again, emphasis mine:

“Soon after that period of inactivity — and months after the laptop itself had been taken into FBI custody — three new folders were created on the drive. Dated Sept. 1 and 2, 2020, they bore the names “Desktop Documents,” “Biden Burisma” and “Hunter. Burisma Documents.”
Williams also found records on the drive that indicated someone may have accessed the drive from a West Coast location in October 2020, little more than a week after the first New York Post stories on Biden’s laptop appeared.

Over the next few days, somebody created three additional folders on the drive, titled, “Mail,” “Salacious Pics Package” and “Big Guy File” — an apparent reference to Joe Biden.”

Odd that the pertinent information was added after the laptop was in FBI custody, no? Good lord I have just wasted 20 minutes on this crap.

 

[MT15]

This guy - do his viewers just believe this BS? Biden was out in front of everyone not only saying it was going to happen, but accurately saying that it would be an all-out invasion aimed at Kyiv when lots of the experts were saying it would probably just be aimed at the eastern areas.

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

This forum needs a deadhorse smiley.

 

[Farb]

The memo must have went out that is okay to confirm the laptop was Hunter Biden's. Is the media trying to get out in front of the story because it will be bad?

I think the NYT actually ran a story about something found on the laptop so in like paragraph 25 or something, they stated it was all real and the pearl clutching of 'russia disinformaiton' was incorrect. Incorrect = cover up

 

[nolaspe]

Does this count as media since it's 'social' media? Lol...

Donald Trump's Truth Social App Is Failing Fantastically, Report Says

The former president's effort to keep his MAGA base talking appears to be cratering.

news.yahoo.com

 

[MT15]

I think the NYT actually ran a story about something found on the laptop so in like paragraph 25 or something, they stated it was all real and the pearl clutching of 'russia disinformaiton' was incorrect. Incorrect = cover up

Nope. Not accurate. See my posts above about the collection of files that one of Bannon’s buddies is trying to pass off as “the laptop”. There are some emails on there that could be verified, about 2% of the total number of files. There were lots of folders and files added to this “laptop” after the actual laptop was picked up by the FBI. So no, they didn’t state it was “all real”. Not even close.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I think he has a point, that 60 Minutes was the first time News was actually profitable and not viewed as a public service by the networks. Once the profit motive set in, then all editorial decisions are forever changed.

But isn’t 60 Minutes on the Mount Rushmore of TV Journalism with Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite?

Were they ever accused of selling out or crossing ethical lines chasing that profit?

 

[MT15]

But isn’t 60 Minutes on the Mount Rushmore of TV Journalism with Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite?

Were they ever accused of selling out or crossing ethical lines chasing that profit?

No, I don’t think that was his point, although I have a dim memory of a couple of minor scandals.

His point was that once it was shown there was big money in TV news, the whole dynamic forever changed. It used to be that TV news wasn’t looked at as generating revenue, it was looked at as a public service. Once it was shown they could monetize it, the motivation is there to decide what stories are pursued based on the ratings rather than how important the story is to the national interest. The temptation is there to sensationalize for views, which translates to profit.