Looming budget battle: Will the GOP force federal shutdown (1 Viewer)

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    superchuck500

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    Annual federal appropriations will lapse on September 30, 2023 - now less than a month away. After the debt-ceiling fight, many anticipated that the FY 2024 funding battle could see a federal government shutdown of some length as Republicans push for more budget cuts . . . and that was before Special Counsel Jack Smith's office filed two separate criminal prosecutions of Donald Trump. Desperate to hit back in any way they can, the MAGAs in Congress have already said they will attempt to de-fund the prosecution. Of course, the only way they could even attempt to do that would be to force a shutdown of the entire federal government, or at least the civilian executive agencies presuming a bill funding DOD could get through.

    It's hard to imagine that they won't try this, the questions are when will they try it and how much of the GOP goes along with the MAGAs (i.e. Freedom Caucus), particularly in the Senate where McConnell has already indicated no interest in such a gambit . . . though McConnell's health may eventually come into play. Would, for example, the Republicans agree to a continuing resolution to fund the government for several months to allow the time to get closer to the Trump federal trial dates before actually attempting a shutdown? (March 4 in DC and May 20 in Florida).

    One factor in play is that federal funding rules allow the Article III courts (which include the federal district and appellate courts) to continue operation in a shutdown and they also allow for federal agencies to continue with "excepted" activities that include, generally, federal criminal prosecutions. (See article below). This allowance, however, is not perpetual, it is funded by other sources that do eventually dry up - so eventually they would shut down. Hypothetically, but such a lengthy shutdown would be terribly detrimental to the economy and have substantial political damage for the party perceived to have caused it . . . in this case that wouldn't be much of a debate.

    For those reasons, I think the smarter GOP leaders, particularly in the Senate, will recognized that trying to use the budget as a tool to harm the Trump prosecutions is a fool's game: it's almost certain not to achieve that goal and it's to bring about substantial harm. But the MAGAs aren't as smart and given their wild allegiance to Trump, we can expect some sort of effort. At minimum it gives them an ability to say to their MAGA constituents that they tried to shutdown the prosecutions but were sold out by the RINOs in the Senate.

    Going to be an interesting showdown. I don't think I can recall a shutdown battle where actually shutting the government down so that it couldn't function was the objective rather than a tool for coercion. Crazy.



     
    Dems are the only adults in the House. The Republicans are clowns.
    I know the dems want this dysfunction because it will help them in future elections. But, at the same time, I wonder why they haven’t gotten with the more moderate republicans and said, “You guys pick a moderate Republican who won’t bow down to the freedom caucus, and we will work with you. We will support a motion to vacate, and will help you elect that person.”
     
    I think you simply tell McCarthy to work with you (the Dems) and we will vote to keep you as the Speaker in a no confidence vote. Corbyn floated this in an interview yesterday.00

    Then the Dems own him. For the rest of the term.

    The moment he crosses them they can let it be known that a no-confidence vote will not be objected to.

    He cares only about himself and staying on as Speaker. Use that.
     
    I know the dems want this dysfunction because it will help them in future elections. But, at the same time, I wonder why they haven’t gotten with the more moderate republicans and said, “You guys pick a moderate Republican who won’t bow down to the freedom caucus, and we will work with you. We will support a motion to vacate, and will help you elect that person.”

    I don't think moderate Republicans or moderate Dems would do that. They both still need to run in primaries and would be susceptible to challengers from the right/left wings of their parties. But as we see from the CR vote, Dems are more willing to work and compromise on solutions to problem's.
     
    Wtf are you doing man

    Rep. Jamaal Bowman pulled a fire alarm in the Cannon House Office Building on Saturday morning, shortly before the House was scheduled to vote on a government funding bill, which the New York Democrat said was an accident.

    The incident was first revealed by House Administration Committee Chairman Bryan Steil, a Republican from Wisconsin.

    “Rep (Jamaal) Bowman pulled a fire alarm in Cannon this morning. An investigation into why it was pulled is underway,” Steil said in a statement.

    Bowman’s office said it was an accident, and the congressman told reporters later Saturday: “I was trying to get to a door. I thought the alarm would open the door and I pulled the fire alarm to open the door by accident.”

    “I was just trying to get to my vote and the door that’s usually open wasn’t open, it was closed,” Bowman added.
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/09/30/politics/jamaal-bowman-pulls-fire-alarm/index.html
     

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