Joe Biden on Gun Control (1 Viewer)

[Beach Friends]

While saying he supports the Second Amendment, Biden called the absolutist arguments of some gun-rights supporters “bizarre.” Noting people can’t own machine guns or bazookas, Biden said, “Why should we allow people to have military-style weapons including pistols with 9-mm bullets and can hold 10 or more rounds?”

Speaking at the ‘House of Amazon,’ Joe Biden gently raises company’s role in middle-class job losses

Joe Biden raked in campaign cash at two private Seattle fundraisers on Friday, including one at the home of a top Amazon executive, where the former vice president ever-so-gently raised the role the company has played in the loss of...

www.seattletimes.com

IMO, if Biden wants to persuade people, including those who want to retain the right to own weapons for self defense, he really should learn more about guns. Based on prior statements as well those he made in the linked article, he seems hung up on the idea that a shotgun is the correct weapon for personal defense, and that a 2-3 round capacity is adequate. Furthermore, when he throws out "9mm" as if it is some unusually lethal round, he really sounds as though he is, at best, willfully ignorant and can't be trusted when it comes to legislation restricting gun ownership.

 

[The moose]

Guess I will just leave this here

Student Arrested in Shooting Threat Against Middle School in Willowbrook Had Rifle, Ammo: LASD

A 13-year-old boy accused of threatening to shoot students and staff at a charter middle school in Willowbrook was arrested after being found to have access to a rifle and ammunition, authorities a…

ktla.com

 

[The moose]

This one also

What's a 'ghost gun'? Untraceable, DIY firearm used in California high school shooting

An untraceable kit gun was used in the Saugus High School shooting in Santa Clarita, California, officials say.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Beach Friends]

Thanks @TheMoose for bumping my Biden on Gun Control thread. I would like to keep it at the top as long as possible.

 

[The moose]

Thanks @TheMoose for bumping my Biden on Gun Control thread. I would like to keep it at the top as long as possible.

That way we can discuss guns rather than the problem would be my take on it.

I would guess you guys are all good with kit guns no need for new laws there.

 

[The moose]

How about this one

In 46 weeks this year, there have been 45 school shootings | CNN

They have occurred across the country, from Georgia to California, at elementary, middle and high schools and on college and university campuses.

www.cnn.com

 

[The moose]

So I see the pro gun crowd does not want to talk about ghost guns one bit.

I would think you could come up with one argument for them to exist.

Please post more videos of women shooting it is much better than the crickets you got going on here.

 

[Archies Ghost]

So I see the pro gun crowd does not want to talk about ghost guns one bit.

I would think you could come up with one argument for them to exist.

Please post more videos of women shooting it is much better than the crickets you got going on here.

Ghost guns are a predictable reaction to repeated threats to register weapons. Personally, I have no problem with them whatsoever as the Constitution plainly states the individual right to bear arms. The framers intended for the citizenry to be well armed, on par with the government that served them. I also have no problem with that.

 

[The moose]

Ghost guns are a predictable reaction to repeated threats to register weapons. Personally, I have no problem with them whatsoever as the Constitution plainly states the individual right to bear arms. The framers intended for the citizenry to be well armed, on par with the government that served them. I also have no problem with that.

So just to get this one straight.

You do know our founding fathers were talking about a much different time. You had to fight of Indians bears and whatnot.

So it now has become the reason is to gun fight with other gun owners or to kill yourself. Oh I forgot the occasional hunt.

 

[Beach Friends]

So I see the pro gun crowd does not want to talk about ghost guns one bit.

I would think you could come up with one argument for them to exist.

Please post more videos of women shooting it is much better than the crickets you got going on here.

The biggest reason I don't engage in a discussion with you is that I am trying my best to post in accordance with the forum guidelines. Given your anger filled insulting posting style, I think engaging with you would run counter to that goal. I don't want to just sit back and take your insults.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I would be surprised if others do not feel the same way.

 

[The moose]

The biggest reason I don't engage in a discussion with you is that I am trying my best to post in accordance with the forum guidelines. Given your anger filled insulting posting style, I think engaging with you would run counter to that goal. I don't want to just sit back and take your insults.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I would be surprised if others do not feel the same way.

Come one just one reason for ghost guns.

We can buy every part for a car yet when you assemble one you have to get an assigned serial number. Why don't we do the guns that way?


You won't get kicked out.

 

[The moose]

Let's talk about the house passed gun control legislation that Moscow Mitch refuses to address.

That would be a political discussion.

Here is a link to an article about it.

Here's the House gun control legislation Mitch McConnell refuses to take up in the Senate after the mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton

Two gun control bills that the House passed in February are stuck in legislative limbo in the Republican-led Senate under Mitch McConnell.

amp.businessinsider.com

If you are for it or against it and why would be a great discussion.

Me I am all for it. Why not make background checks a bit tougher.

What about you guys?

 

[Joe Okc]

Me I am all for it. Why not make background checks a bit tougher.

What about you guys?

I am all in favor of the cops having metal detectors.. and you can be stoped and searched at any time for a gun.. and if you have one with no gun license... the gun is gone and you go to jail... How about you.??

 

[RegularChuck]

I am all in favor of the cops having metal detectors.. and you can be stoped and searched at any time for a gun.. and if you have one with no gun license... the gun is gone and you go to jail... How about you.??

So you’re willing to change the constitution?

 

[Joe Okc]

So you’re willing to change the constitution?

Do you want gun control?

 

[RegularChuck]

Do you want gun control?

I’m still on the fence. Discussions like these give me things to consider to help me form my opinion. Are you going to answer my question?

Nevermind, it just dawned upon me I asked a question I already know the answer to.

 

[The moose]

I am all in favor of the cops having metal detectors.. and you can be stoped and searched at any time for a gun.. and if you have one with no gun license... the gun is gone and you go to jail... How about you.??

I would think that is a bit excessive.

Did we not learn a thing with the racial profile thing? That would easily be used to profile who they wanted to profile.

Closing a few loopholes and making the exchange of guns have to go thru a background check does not seem so excessive to me.

But then again the guns I own have not been shot since they were my great uncles.

 

[Joe Okc]

I’m still on the fence. Discussions like these give me things to consider to help me form my opinion. Are you going to answer my question?

Honestly.. I would like to refrain from discussing guns at this time until this website goes live and we get more members in here. and this place becomes a little more balanced out...

But to answer your question... I think that there would be more changes need than just Background checks or make guns harder to get...

 

[Archies Ghost]

So just to get this one straight.

You do know our founding fathers were talking about a much different time. You had to fight of Indians bears and whatnot.

So it now has become the reason is to gun fight with other gun owners or to kill yourself. Oh I forgot the occasional hunt.

Your grasp of the history of the founding of the United States is quite limited.

The United States was formed by a bunch of guys opposed to the tyranny of the state.

One of the things that tyrannical state attempted was disarming the populace.

The Militia Laws should be repealed and none suffered to be re-enacted, & the Arms of all the People should be taken away, & every piece of Ordnance removed into the King’s Stores, nor should any foundry or manufactory of Arms, Gunpowder, or Warlike Stores, be evre suffered in America, nor should any Gunpowder, Lead, Arms or Ordnance be imported into it without License; they will have but little need of such things for the future, as the King’s Troops, Ships Forts will be sufficient to protect them from any danger.

Sound familiar?