Joe Biden Accused of Sexual Assualt (2 Viewers)

[Beach Friends]

The video is NSFW due to language and the graphic description of Joe Biden's alleged conduct.

 

[Humperdoo]

Look on the bright side - this got him off the subject of Biden's mental unfitness for the Presidency.

It's pretty funny actually. Trump supporters attacking Biden for (take your pick):

Mental unfitness
Corruption; and now
Sexual assault

I'm impressed they can do it with a straight face.

You guys and gals don’t see that it’s literally back and forth.

Like two sides sitting in their figurative foxholes screaming at each other, lobbing grenades, and no one listening.

An eternal tug of war. Until and unless we learn as a people to step out of our comfort zone, and meet somewhere close to the middle, this will not change.

 

[Beach Friends]

Here is an interesting video discussing the Times Up organization's decision not to fund the accuser's case (they claim they can't because Biden is running for federal office and they have a tax exempt status), and also the connection between the Biden campaign and the Times Up organization.

 

[not2rich]

You guys and gals don’t see that it’s literally back and forth.

Like two sides sitting in their figurative foxholes screaming at each other, lobbing grenades, and no one listening.

An eternal tug of war. Until and unless we learn as a people to step out of our comfort zone, and meet somewhere close to the middle, this will not change.

Like I said, a genuine conversation that might have people "meet somewhere close to the middle" requires good faith on both sides.

 

[wardorican]

So, is this even credible?

 

[not2rich]

So, is this even credible?

I'm sure it is. If BF is about nothing else, it's vetting the credibility of sexual assault accusers. He wouldn't have started this thread for purely partisan reasons.

 

[zztop]

You guys and gals don’t see that it’s literally back and forth.

Like two sides sitting in their figurative foxholes screaming at each other, lobbing grenades, and no one listening.

An eternal tug of war. Until and unless we learn as a people to step out of our comfort zone, and meet somewhere close to the middle, this will not change.

Oh I see it, that is why I chose not to engage in Bob E's whatabout-xyz. B/c I could easily pull oh.. probably a dozen anti-gay homophobic "christian" republicans from google and how they got caught having sex with with boys/men etc. But I chose not to b/c its pretty forking childish to go back and forth about that shirt. If people are going to make a topic about sexual assault, which is pretty serious, then do the see-no-evil-hear-no-evil bullshirt about trump and all his dozens of sexual assault/rape accusations, that is not making a topic in good faith.

 

[Beach Friends]

So, is this even credible?

What do you mean by that Ward? Do we know if Biden's accuser is telling the truth?
I guess we will have to watch to see how this unfolds and then everyone will have to make up their own minds.

 

[Beach Friends]

Oh I see it, that is why I chose not to engage in Bob E's whatabout-xyz. B/c I could easily pull oh.. probably a dozen anti-gay homophobic "christian" republicans from google and how they got caught having sex with with boys/men etc. But I chose not to b/c its pretty forking childish to go back and forth about that shirt. If people are going to make a topic about sexual assault, which is pretty serious, then do the see-no-evil-hear-no-evil bullshirt about trump and all his dozens of sexual assault/rape accusations, that is not making a topic in good faith.

So, in your view only allegations made against Trump can be brought forward for discussion? It doesn't work like that, no matter how much you express your displeasure.

Again, I have not expressed an opinion one way or another about whether Biden sexually assaulted this woman as she claims.

 

[SaintForLife]

I won't impugn the motives or character of someone who votes for Biden if this turns out to be true. It's not surprising how quickly Trumps name was brought up in this thread. What happened to one of the left's favorite phrases: whataboutism? I'm guessing the new standard here will be that we can't make a post about Biden unless we also criticize Trump. It is laughable that anyone would try claim we should look to politicians or Presidents as role models or for morality.

 

[SaintForLife]

Oh I see it, that is why I chose not to engage in Bob E's whatabout-xyz. B/c I could easily pull oh.. probably a dozen anti-gay homophobic "christian" republicans from google and how they got caught having sex with with boys/men etc. But I chose not to b/c its pretty forking childish to go back and forth about that shirt. If people are going to make a topic about sexual assault, which is pretty serious, then do the see-no-evil-hear-no-evil bullshirt about trump and all his dozens of sexual assault/rape accusations, that is not making a topic in good faith.

The topic is Biden being accused of sexual assault. It's perfectly fine to bring Trump up as well, but I don't see why the thread about Biden needs to be changed to a more general subject of sexual assault unless it's to avoid talking about Biden.

 

[SaintForLife]

 

[V Chip]

The thread was a blank slate. It's not a gotcha unless you make it a gotcha by ... well, doing what you just did.

You know darned well that isn't true. If the tables were turned and it was, say, a story being pushed by a conspiracy-theorist video talking head, DD and several other "conservatives" wouldn't even watch it before discounting it out of hand. There are few if any of the right-leaning posters on this site who would give any of the allegations against Trump or Kavanaugh even a remotely evenhanded/openminded review before dismissing it and getting the latest dirt or defense from right-leaning websites to try and dismiss the allegation. If this was a truly open thread, why are almost all of the right-leaning posters giving a virtual smile and wink in their reply, such as yours where you say "all is well, Democrats don't really care about the things they pretend to get all worked up about." or Farb who says "I cant believe every single one of Biden's followers are ok with sexual assault. It just shows what Biden supporters really believe in their hearts. Sad." That's sounds like people with a desire for a real discussion about sexual assault. And the Liberals are reacting as you would expect, not much discussion about the allegations because they feel this is a "gotcha" thread.

I lean to believing the women almost always. Yes, sometimes there are false accusations. I seriously think those are few and far between, but it is why they should be investigated and not just put on a smear campaign by the accused (and their supporters), with past behaviors and accusations against the currently accused being taken into account.

Mod edit - Removed portion quoting post that is now deleted.

 

[Beach Friends]

You know darned well that isn't true. If the tables were turned and it was, say, a story being pushed by a conspiracy-theorist video talking head, DD and several other "conservatives" wouldn't even watch it before discounting it out of hand. There are few if any of the right-leaning posters on this site who would give any of the allegations against Trump or Kavanaugh even a remotely evenhanded/openminded review before dismissing it and getting the latest dirt or defense from right-leaning websites to try and dismiss the allegation. If this was a truly open thread, why are almost all of the right-leaning posters giving a virtual smile and wink in their reply, such as yours where you say "all is well, Democrats don't really care about the things they pretend to get all worked up about." or Farb who says "I cant believe every single one of Biden's followers are ok with sexual assault. It just shows what Biden supporters really believe in their hearts. Sad." That's sounds like people with a desire for a real discussion about sexual assault. And the Liberals are reacting as you would expect, not much discussion about the allegations because they feel this is a "gotcha" thread.

I lean to believing the women almost always. Yes, sometimes there are false accusations. I seriously think those are few and far between, but it is why they should be investigated and not just put on a smear campaign by the accused (and their supporters), with past behaviors and accusations against the currently accused being taken into account.

Feel free to find me posting a thread where I call out the conservatives/a conservative for the same exact things I defended liberals/a liberal for doing and I'll buy you a beer.

Thanks for clarifying. So, virtue signaling is a lot more fun when the target of your outrage is someone you don't like. When it comes at an actual cost it's just not worth it and that embarrasses you so you take it out on the person who you feel put you in that uncomfortable position.

Putting all of that aside, is there any part of you that actually cares about the woman, or nah?

 

[Heathen]

Let's not elect or continue supporting people who have sexually assaulted others or talk like they would

Can we do that? Its not a purity test. Its realizing that some people hold your values and some do not.

Unfortunately we will have to live with one being president for another 4 years

 

[SystemShock]

3 pages worth over a Jimmy Dore conspiracy video... good game.

 

[Joe Okc]

Cannot wait for Sheldon Whitehouse to investigate Biden's middle school yearbook for clues into this.

Yuppers... Bring those high school yearbooks into play... We gotta get to the bottom of this.

 

[dtc]

I won't impugn the motives or character of someone who votes for Biden if this turns out to be true. It's not surprising how quickly Trumps name was brought up in this thread. What happened to one of the left's favorite phrases: whataboutism? I'm guessing the new standard here will be that we can't make a post about Biden unless we also criticize Trump. It is laughable that anyone would try claim we should look to politicians or Presidents as role models or for morality.

We should look to them as role models because they should behave as if there are at all times. And, we can judge the credible or non-credible accusations against Trump, Clinton and Biden for themselves and make our own decisions. Certainly there isn't any reason that one could not condemn any or all of them.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

3 pages worth over a Jimmy Dore conspiracy video... good game.

It's a bit more than that, she made the allegation last April and has given a few interviews. She's one of 8 women who accused Biden of sexual assault. I think it's important to review the allegations to find if they are credible and if they are he should step down.

I don't think there's anything wrong with vetting these women and letting them make their accusations.