Is Russia about to invade Ukraine? (1 Viewer)

[superchuck500]

Russia continues to mass assets within range of Ukraine - though the official explanations are that they are for various exercises. United States intelligence has noted that Russian operatives in Ukraine could launch 'false flag' operations as a predicate to invasion. The West has pressed for negotiations and on Friday in Geneva, the US Sec. State Blinken will meet with the Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov.

Certainly the Russian movements evidence some plan - but what is it? Some analysts believe that Putin's grand scheme involves securing Western commitments that NATO would never expand beyond its current composition. Whether that means action in Ukraine or merely the movement of pieces on the chess board remains to be seen.

VIENNA — No one expected much progress from this past week’s diplomatic marathon to defuse the security crisis Russia has ignited in Eastern Europe by surrounding Ukraine on three sides with 100,000 troops and then, by the White House’s accounting, sending in saboteurs to create a pretext for invasion.

But as the Biden administration and NATO conduct tabletop simulations about how the next few months could unfold, they are increasingly wary of another set of options for President Vladimir V. Putin, steps that are more far-reaching than simply rolling his troops and armor over Ukraine’s border.

Mr. Putin wants to extend Russia’s sphere of influence to Eastern Europe and secure written commitments that NATO will never again enlarge. If he is frustrated in reaching that goal, some of his aides suggested on the sidelines of the negotiations last week, then he would pursue Russia’s security interests with results that would be felt acutely in Europe and the United States.

There were hints, never quite spelled out, that nuclear weapons could be shifted to places — perhaps not far from the United States coastline — that would reduce warning times after a launch to as little as five minutes, potentially igniting a confrontation with echoes of the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis.

Russia Issues Subtle Threats More Far-Reaching Than a Ukraine Invasion

If the West fails to meet its security demands, Moscow could take measures like placing nuclear missiles close to the U.S. coastline, Russian officials have hinted.

www.nytimes.com

Blinken Will Meet With Russia as U.S. Pushes for More Diplomacy

Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken will meet with Foreign Minister Sergey V. Lavrov of Russia in Geneva on Friday as the United States warns that Russia could soon attack Ukraine.

www.nytimes.com

How to think about war in Ukraine

Start with the Ukrainians

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[zztop]

I knew if he got elected again it would increase the chances of Ukraine falling b/c he would cozy up to Russia. Wouldn't surprise me if us intelligence starts to freely give away strategies Ukraine is using. I hate being right about this shirt.

 

[superchuck500]

I knew if he got elected again it would increase the chances of Ukraine falling b/c he would cozy up to Russia. Wouldn't surprise me if us intelligence starts to freely give away strategies Ukraine is using. I hate being right about this shirt.

I think it was pretty obvious this was going to happen. These senators who act like they're surprised are only telling the world how dense they are.

Trump tried to shake down Zelensky in the last administration - and resented him for not being "loyal" to Trump. Trump has never been willing to support Ukraine's western turn - even been suspicious of it, and all of that was before Russia invaded . . . an invasion Trump immediately proclaimed as "Genius!"

There was never a chance Trump was going to continue supporting Ukraine. Trump's whole "I can end the war in 24 hours" was always entirely based on Trump's view that the American president has enough leverage on Kiev to force them to capitulate to Putin. As sad as that forking is.

We're about to find out whether that is true.

 

[superchuck500]

 

[efil4]

He and those around him are quite astute. That was a great response to calls for a public apology.

Let's see if that is enough (as it should be). Ball in Trump's court. I suspect we will know where his true intentions lie soon enough.

Ukraine knows just how bad Trump wants mineral rights.

 

[coldseat]

That's how you communicate when you're a serious leader fighting insurmountable odds. He's not so prideful that he lets it get in the way of what is best for his nation, even though he's dealing with a bunch of arse hats in the White House. That man deserves all the respect in the world.

 

[fooferdoggie]

any deal with trump would screw his country trump has fully embraced Putin.

 

[barbar]

any deal with trump would screw his country trump has fully embraced Putin.

Here is what I am concerned about:

USA gets mineral rights in Ukraine
Trump sells those mineral rights to Putin
Putin invades again under the pretense of "it's my land anyway"

 

[bird]

Here is what I am concerned about:

USA gets mineral rights in Ukraine
Trump sells those mineral rights to Putin
Putin invades again under the pretense of "it's my land anyway"

Russia already occupies land that covers about 40% of Ukraines mineral reserves. Under the Orange Imbecile’s “deal” Russia stays in possession of that territory.

Furthermore, there are better sources for minerals than Ukraine that we already deal with or at least have been dealing with until Trump went loony-tunes. Canada is one of those sources.

Also the following link questions the accuracy of claims of high amounts of rare earths.

‘No credible evidence’ that Ukraine has rare earth minerals, says Northeastern expert

The deal would give the U.S. a share of Ukraine’s critical raw minerals. But is it all that it is being made out to be?

news.northeastern.edu

I found this in a simple Google search. It may not be completely accurate but one would hope that the freaking U.S. government has the most accurate information.

 

[barbar]

Russia already occupies land that covers about 40% of Ukraines mineral reserves. Under the Orange Imbecile’s “deal” Russia stays in possession of that territory.

Furthermore, there are better sources for minerals than Ukraine that we already deal with or at least have been dealing with until Trump went loony-tunes. Canada is one of those sources.

Also the following link questions the accuracy of claims of high amounts of rare earths.

‘No credible evidence’ that Ukraine has rare earth minerals, says Northeastern expert

The deal would give the U.S. a share of Ukraine’s critical raw minerals. But is it all that it is being made out to be?

news.northeastern.edu

I found this in a simple Google search. It may not be completely accurate but one would hope that the freaking U.S. government has the most accurate information.

One would hope.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Funny story....as I said, she name drops him constantly. She always says stuff like "anyone messes with me or my family I got friends in high places I can call"...."he is such a good man and he would do anything that I asked him to do"....stuff like that.

Last year I found myself in a difficult legal situation here in Germany where one phone call from the speaker of the house would have likely ended the whole thing. So I took her up on the offer to call her friend in a high place. Even though he is a snake, I would gladly accept help from a snake if it saves me 15-20k in lawyer fees.

She said she would call him and ask....then a week later she said "he's the speaker of the house it's not like I have his phone number I don't know what you want me to do."

Lol....my brother in Christ it is YOU who has been saying for 2 years that he is your good friend and you can call him for a favor anytime...lol.

Feel like this story is a bit of a microcosm of the situation

You have blind and full faith in GOP (because they told you to)

They told you, "I have your back, anywhere, any time, any reason"

And when "any time" is right now and "any reason" is a pretty serious reason nothing. Crickets

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[efil4]

 

[efil4]

Think Trump isnt following the Kremlin to a tee?

Kremlin is KNOWN for info to leak, reported on and deny, only to do it.

 

[MT15]

Yeah, I wouldn’t put any stock into a denial from the WH. It’s probably been leaked as a trial balloon to see how much outrage there is.

 

[fooferdoggie]

Think Trump isnt following the Kremlin to a tee?

Kremlin is KNOWN for info to leak, reported on and deny, only to do it.

so proving it is true.

 

[Huntn]

Feel like this story is a bit of a microcosm of the situation

You have blind and full faith in GOP (because they told you to)

They told you, "I have your back, anywhere, any time, any reason"

And when "any time" is right now and "any reason" is a pretty serious reason nothing. Crickets

The Cult is going to have to wake up <kick> WAKE UP DAMN IT,

 

[efil4]

Trump is a Russian asset.

 

[DaveXA]

Trump is a Russian asset.

And if he isn't, he sure is acting like one.