Is Russia about to invade Ukraine? (4 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

Russia continues to mass assets within range of Ukraine - though the official explanations are that they are for various exercises. United States intelligence has noted that Russian operatives in Ukraine could launch 'false flag' operations as a predicate to invasion. The West has pressed for negotiations and on Friday in Geneva, the US Sec. State Blinken will meet with the Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov.

Certainly the Russian movements evidence some plan - but what is it? Some analysts believe that Putin's grand scheme involves securing Western commitments that NATO would never expand beyond its current composition. Whether that means action in Ukraine or merely the movement of pieces on the chess board remains to be seen.

VIENNA — No one expected much progress from this past week’s diplomatic marathon to defuse the security crisis Russia has ignited in Eastern Europe by surrounding Ukraine on three sides with 100,000 troops and then, by the White House’s accounting, sending in saboteurs to create a pretext for invasion.

But as the Biden administration and NATO conduct tabletop simulations about how the next few months could unfold, they are increasingly wary of another set of options for President Vladimir V. Putin, steps that are more far-reaching than simply rolling his troops and armor over Ukraine’s border.

Mr. Putin wants to extend Russia’s sphere of influence to Eastern Europe and secure written commitments that NATO will never again enlarge. If he is frustrated in reaching that goal, some of his aides suggested on the sidelines of the negotiations last week, then he would pursue Russia’s security interests with results that would be felt acutely in Europe and the United States.

There were hints, never quite spelled out, that nuclear weapons could be shifted to places — perhaps not far from the United States coastline — that would reduce warning times after a launch to as little as five minutes, potentially igniting a confrontation with echoes of the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis.

Russia Issues Subtle Threats More Far-Reaching Than a Ukraine Invasion

If the West fails to meet its security demands, Moscow could take measures like placing nuclear missiles close to the U.S. coastline, Russian officials have hinted.

www.nytimes.com

Blinken Will Meet With Russia as U.S. Pushes for More Diplomacy

Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken will meet with Foreign Minister Sergey V. Lavrov of Russia in Geneva on Friday as the United States warns that Russia could soon attack Ukraine.

www.nytimes.com

How to think about war in Ukraine

Start with the Ukrainians

snyder.substack.com

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

Congratulations again. Boris Johnson and Trump. Johnson screwed up the UK and Trump screwed up the US and wants to do it again.

Trump isn’t strong at all. He is a cowardly bully who couldn’t handle losing. Plus he is enthralled by Putin. Hell, he wishes he could be Putin.

plus ending the war in Ukraine Trumps way would pretty much be forcing Ukraine to give in to ALL of Russias demands, which would pretty much succeed Ukraine to Russia.

 

[SaintForLife]

plus ending the war in Ukraine Trumps way would pretty much be forcing Ukraine to give in to ALL of Russias demands, which would pretty much succeed Ukraine to Russia.

Let's play out your hypothetical scenario.

Assuming Trump wins in November, what do you think will happen with Ukraine and what will Russia in relation to Ukraine and the rest of the region?

I'm curious to hear what people would say to the above scenario.

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

Let's play out your hypothetical scenario.

Assuming Trump wins in November, what do you think will happen with Ukraine and what will Russia in relation to Ukraine and the rest of the region?

I'm curious to hear what people would say to the above scenario.

personally, i think Trump will attempt to hold funding (and attempt to persuade other leaders to also) to force Ukraine to give in to Russian demands (or peace talks as you would call them). there is one way and one way only that Russia ends this war on their accord and it's with the Ukraine succeeding major territory. and i have no doubt, it won't be long after that, that he'll want more.
Russia and Putin are 100% to blame for this war. he knows he can't back down unless he gets major territory, anything less on his end will result in him appearing to be weak and to have lost.
I do not blame Ukraine one bit for continuing the fight until they have control of THEIR territory back.
long story short, There is zero chance Trump can end this war without bowing to Putin

 

[J-DONK]

personally, i think Trump will attempt to hold funding (and attempt to persuade other leaders to also) to force Ukraine to give in to Russian demands (or peace talks as you would call them). there is one way and one way only that Russia ends this war on their accord and it's with the Ukraine succeeding major territory. and i have no doubt, it won't be long after that, that he'll want more.
Russia and Putin are 100% to blame for this war. he knows he can't back down unless he gets major territory, anything less on his end will result in him appearing to be weak and to have lost.
I do not blame Ukraine one bit for continuing the fight until they have control of THEIR territory back.
long story short, There is zero chance Trump can end this war without bowing to Putin

SFL lives in a world were Paul Manafort wasn't Donald's campaign manager, and Trump didn't pardon him.

I have no idea how he pretends Trump has zero connections to Russia.

 

[bird]

SFL lives in a world were Paul Manafort wasn't Donald's campaign manager, and Trump didn't pardon him.

I have no idea how he pretends Trump has zero connections to Russia.

Not to mention his conversation with Vlad where allegedly no records were kept.

 

[bird]

Let's play out your hypothetical scenario.

Assuming Trump wins in November, what do you think will happen with Ukraine and what will Russia in relation to Ukraine and the rest of the region?

I'm curious to hear what people would say to the above scenario.

Putin will continue to demand Ukrainian territory.

Putin will continue to make noise regarding the Baltic states as well as Poland which is due to Kaliningrad.

Putin will continue to attempt to influence elections around the world.

Trump will kiss Putin’s ring as well as his azz.

Trump is, by definition, a coward.

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

Putin will continue to demand Ukrainian territory.

Putin will continue to make noise regarding the Baltic states as well as Poland which is due to Kaliningrad.

Putin will continue to attempt to influence elections around the world.

Trump will kiss Putin’s ring as well as his azz.

Trump is, by definition, a coward.

he did, in front of all the American people on live Tv, say he believed Putin over our own US Intelligence..

 

[SaintForLife]

The Democrats are in great hands on Ukraine with Harris.

 

[bird]

The Democrats are in great hands on Ukraine with Harris.

“I think he misses me.” - Donald Trump regarding Kim Jung-Un

Every other word out of your false God’s mouth either sounds like a fourth grader or is just goofy. Of course, goofy is what you would expect from a person suffering from advancing dementia.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

The Democrats are in great hands on Ukraine with Harris.

She was asked to "break it down in layman's terms for the people who don't understand what's going on and how this can directly affect the people of the United States." Try listening to the whole clip:

Deceptively-edited viral video watch: VP Kamala Harris and Ukraine edition

www.mediamatters.org

 

[MT15]

She was asked to "break it down in layman's terms for the people who don't understand what's going on and how this can directly affect the people of the United States." Try listening to the whole clip:

Deceptively-edited viral video watch: VP Kamala Harris and Ukraine edition

www.mediamatters.org

He just spams the board with bad faith posts from bad faith actors. Every time I follow up on one of his sources (well, 90% of the time) they are deceptive in some way. It’s disgusting, actually.

If he were posting in good faith, he would delete the post. I will be pleasantly surprised if he does, though.

 

[zztop]

Ugh

How Russia-linked malware cut heat to 600 Ukrainian buildings in deep winter

The code was used to sabotage a heating utility in Lviv at the coldest point in the year.

arstechnica.com

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

Let's play out your hypothetical scenario.

Assuming Trump wins in November, what do you think will happen with Ukraine and what will Russia in relation to Ukraine and the rest of the region?

I'm curious to hear what people would say to the above scenario.

what do you think Trumps plan is?
Do you thinnk it involves Putin giving Ukraine back all land taken since the invasion and Russia pulling completely out?

 

[SaintForLife]

what do you think Trumps plan is?
Do you thinnk it involves Putin giving Ukraine back all land taken since the invasion and Russia pulling completely out?

To end the war. Sorry to tell you, but Russia isn't giving back all the land they took during the war. From what I remember, land that is taken during war is rarely or never given back to the other country.

 

[Nebaghead]

To end the war. Sorry to tell you, but Russia isn't giving back all the land they took during the war. From what I remember, land that is taken during war is rarely or never given back to the other country.

Typically peace is negotiated. There is give and take. Sometimes land is returned or exchanged. Trump will side with what Russia wants. Not surprising. Russia is not an ally. Why would we side with an enemy over an ally.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

To end the war. Sorry to tell you, but Russia isn't giving back all the land they took during the war. From what I remember, land that is taken during war is rarely or never given back to the other country.

So, they should be rewarded the land they acquired by violating international law??? Why did we even have all these international conventions and create laws to improve our civilization?

 

[bird]

To end the war. Sorry to tell you, but Russia isn't giving back all the land they took during the war. From what I remember, land that is taken during war is rarely or never given back to the other country.

So, basically, you have no problem with Russia doing whatever they want.

I just wanted to make sure.

 

[SaintForLife]

So, they should be rewarded the land they acquired by violating international law??? Why did we even have all these international conventions and create laws to improve our civilization?

I'm not saying that should be able to keep it. I'm just stating what normally happens in war. Do you know of any countries giving back territory that they took during the war?