Is Russia about to invade Ukraine? (3 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

Russia continues to mass assets within range of Ukraine - though the official explanations are that they are for various exercises. United States intelligence has noted that Russian operatives in Ukraine could launch 'false flag' operations as a predicate to invasion. The West has pressed for negotiations and on Friday in Geneva, the US Sec. State Blinken will meet with the Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov.

Certainly the Russian movements evidence some plan - but what is it? Some analysts believe that Putin's grand scheme involves securing Western commitments that NATO would never expand beyond its current composition. Whether that means action in Ukraine or merely the movement of pieces on the chess board remains to be seen.

VIENNA — No one expected much progress from this past week’s diplomatic marathon to defuse the security crisis Russia has ignited in Eastern Europe by surrounding Ukraine on three sides with 100,000 troops and then, by the White House’s accounting, sending in saboteurs to create a pretext for invasion.

But as the Biden administration and NATO conduct tabletop simulations about how the next few months could unfold, they are increasingly wary of another set of options for President Vladimir V. Putin, steps that are more far-reaching than simply rolling his troops and armor over Ukraine’s border.

Mr. Putin wants to extend Russia’s sphere of influence to Eastern Europe and secure written commitments that NATO will never again enlarge. If he is frustrated in reaching that goal, some of his aides suggested on the sidelines of the negotiations last week, then he would pursue Russia’s security interests with results that would be felt acutely in Europe and the United States.

There were hints, never quite spelled out, that nuclear weapons could be shifted to places — perhaps not far from the United States coastline — that would reduce warning times after a launch to as little as five minutes, potentially igniting a confrontation with echoes of the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis.

Russia Issues Subtle Threats More Far-Reaching Than a Ukraine Invasion

If the West fails to meet its security demands, Moscow could take measures like placing nuclear missiles close to the U.S. coastline, Russian officials have hinted.

www.nytimes.com

Blinken Will Meet With Russia as U.S. Pushes for More Diplomacy

Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken will meet with Foreign Minister Sergey V. Lavrov of Russia in Geneva on Friday as the United States warns that Russia could soon attack Ukraine.

www.nytimes.com

How to think about war in Ukraine

Start with the Ukrainians

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[RebSaint]

he has answered Reb 2 different times, and avoided all 3 of my requests to answer my post.

Just want EVERYONE to realize just who yall are dealing with here....he is nothing more than a pot-stirring troll. Has no real intent to discuss, debate or be shown just how wrong/misinformed/untruthful he is. Once that starts to happen, he ignores until such time that he has been able to look on the webz for ANYTHING that supports his stance, no matter how Wrong/misinformed/untruthful the source he links is. ( See the cooking show lady followed by MMA fighter-turned-political-expert )

Exactly. I apologize for temporarily derailing the thread, but what this little exercise has shown is that left to posting his own thoughts in a vacuum on this board *without* copying a wall of tweets from grifters, conspiracy theorists, racists, and MAGA peddles, he quickly and obviously stumbles into his own cognitive dissonance about the reality of what others posts here, including me.

He was quick to accuse me of hiding on this board, then claimed he did not want to engage because I insult him in *every* post I make, and that he did not have time to spend with people who insult him. He's literally not interested in digging deeper regarding the conflict over sources he has with other posters. Other posters might have learned from him how and why the "corporate media" is not reliable. Whether it's how they investigate events, their sources, writing, editing.

Nada, nothing. There were some quality observations in that thread, despite SFL's absence, so thanks anyway to others.

So logically, I ask about his concern about personal and political civility. And his response?

He literally stated he's not "concerned" about personal or political civility at all--but bemoans those who "insult" him and he doesn't have time for those who insult *him* because his time on the board is "limited."

So I'm "hiding" and being cowardly, but SFL is wise and shrewd because he spends *quality* time not engaging those who insult *him* but claims he isn't "concerned" with personal or political civility.

It's literally MAGA in a nutshell.

 

[efil4]

Exactly. I apologize for temporarily derailing the thread, but what this little exercise has shown is that left to posting his own thoughts in a vacuum on this board *without* copying a wall of tweets from grifters, conspiracy theorists, racists, and MAGA peddles, he quickly and obviously stumbles into his own cognitive dissonance about the reality of what others posts here, including me.

He was quick to accuse me of hiding on this board, then claimed he did not want to engage because I insult him in *every* post I make, and that he did not have time to spend with people who insult him. He's literally not interested in digging deeper regarding the conflict over sources he has with other posters. Other posters might have learned from him how and why the "corporate media" is not reliable. Whether it's how they investigate events, their sources, writing, editing.

Nada, nothing. There were some quality observations in that thread, despite SFL's absence, so thanks anyway to others.

So logically, I ask about his concern about personal and political civility. And his response?

He literally stated he's not "concerned" about personal or political civility at all--but bemoans those who "insult" him and he doesn't have time for those who insult *him* because his time on the board is "limited."

So I'm "hiding" and being cowardly, but SFL is wise and shrewd because he spends *quality* time not engaging those who insult *him* but claims he isn't "concerned" with personal or political civility.

It's literally MAGA in a nutshell.

he claims "no time" yet has 20 posts on 3 other threads in the same time frame.

Ive pointed all this out months and months ago. Just reminding everyone yet again what to expect when you engage this poster.

 

[efil4]

Do you not think American made weapons guided by the US and their satellite killing Russian civilians isn't an escalation?

Nsfw

 

[DaveXA]

he claims "no time" yet has 20 posts on 3 other threads in the same time frame.

Ive pointed all this out months and months ago. Just reminding everyone yet again what to expect when you engage this poster.

Simply has no sense of self-awareness. Reminds me a lot of his dear leader in terms of personality.

 

[SaintForLife]

Exactly. I apologize for temporarily derailing the thread, but what this little exercise has shown is that left to posting his own thoughts in a vacuum on this board *without* copying a wall of tweets from grifters, conspiracy theorists, racists, and MAGA peddles, he quickly and obviously stumbles into his own cognitive dissonance about the reality of what others posts here, including me.

Yeah without copying a wall of Tweets I wasn't able to say I didn't respond to your thread because you constantly insult me. You got me lol

He was quick to accuse me of hiding on this board, then claimed he did not want to engage because I insult him in *every* post I make, and that he did not have time to spend with people who insult him. He's literally not interested in digging deeper regarding the conflict over sources he has with other posters. Other posters might have learned from him how and why the "corporate media" is not reliable. Whether it's how they investigate events, their sources, writing, editing.

It's cute how you are very focused on me saying you insult me *every* post. As I said before I was generalizing, but yes most of your replies to be contain insults because apparently you are so insecure that you can't fathom that someone would have my opinions or support Trump

Does it make it any better that you insult me in most of your posts as opposed to every post?

Nada, nothing. There were some quality observations in that thread, despite SFL's absence, so thanks anyway to others.

Good for you. You come out of hiding to make a thread. I'm proud of you!

So logically, I ask about his concern about personal and political civility. And his response?

He literally stated he's not "concerned" about personal or political civility at all--but bemoans those who "insult" him and he doesn't have time for those who insult *him* because his time on the board is "limited."

So I'm "hiding" and being cowardly, but SFL is wise and shrewd because he spends *quality* time not engaging those who insult *him* but claims he isn't "concerned" with personal or political civility.

It's literally MAGA in a nutshell.

It's pretty simple. I won't waste my time responding to someone here if they constantly insult me. I don't get upset when you or others do. I just move on to the next post.

It's MAGA in a nutshell to ignore people who constantly insult them on a message board while demanding I post in your thread! Lol

Speaking of nuts.....

 

[SaintForLife]

he claims "no time" yet has 20 posts on 3 other threads in the same time frame.

Ive pointed all this out months and months ago. Just reminding everyone yet again what to expect when you engage this poster.

Dude, you have some issues. You are getting upset when I don't respond to your posts so you keep asking when I will respond? Sounds like you need a beer.

I didn't say I had no time. I said I'm not going to waste my time here on people who constantly insult me.

 

[DaveXA]

Yeah without copying a wall of Tweets I wasn't able to say I didn't respond to your thread because you constantly insult me. You got me lol


It's cute how you are very focused on me saying you insult me *every* post. As I said before I was generalizing, but yes most of your replies to be contain insults because apparently you are so insecure that you can't fathom that someone would have my opinions or support Trump

Does it make it any better that you insult me in most of your posts as opposed to every post?


Good for you. You come out of hiding to make a thread. I'm proud of you!

It's pretty simple. I won't waste my time responding to someone here if they constantly insult me. I don't get upset when you or others do. I just move on to the next post.

It's MAGA in a nutshell to ignore people who constantly insult them on a message board while demanding I post in your thread! Lol

Speaking of nuts.....

 

[efil4]

Dude, you have some issues. You are getting upset when I don't respond to your posts so you keep asking when I will respond? Sounds like you need a beer.

I didn't say I had no time. I said I'm not going to waste my time here on people who constantly insult me.

I dont drink beer.

Just here to point out that i posed my question over 3 hrs ago, you have replied 3 or 4 times and recent was a breakdown of several posts AFTER mine and yet still no reply.

i wonder why.

your mentality is that of a child. Its remarkable.

dont answer me at this point, i knew better but decided to see if you were the "same ole you"

you are.

Good luck peddling your propaganda.

 

[SaintForLife]

I dont drink beer.

Just here to point out that i posed my question over 3 hrs ago, you have replied 3 or 4 times and recent was a breakdown of several posts AFTER mine and yet still no reply.

i wonder why.

your mentality is that of a child. Its remarkable.

dont answer me at this point, i knew better but decided to see if you were the "same ole you"

you are.

Good luck peddling your propaganda.

Get a life

 

[DaveXA]

Get a life

Get a mirror.

 

[MT15]

Per usual, you accuse others of exactly what you do.

This is all he ever does. He’s not a good faith participant here, imo.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Dude, you have some issues. You are getting upset when I don't respond to your posts so you keep asking when I will respond? Sounds like you need a beer.

I didn't say I had no time. I said I'm not going to waste my time here on people who constantly insult me.

If we step up our game, will you stop interacting with the board entirely?

 

[J-DONK]

If we step up our game, will you stop interacting with the board entirely?

SFL, if you do leave - please share your source for the conservative twitter dumps you give us daily.

 

[LA - L.A.]

It's absolutely insane that the US proxy war keeps escalating with a nuclear armed Russia when we have no vital interests in Ukraine.

We have over 36 million vital interests in Ukraine.

It figures that a Putin apologizing, Trump loving, supposedly pro-life supporting sycophant would only consider natural resources as a vital interest. That's some next level hypocritical depravity right there, folks.

 

[LA - L.A.]

I've said multiple times that I won't respond to people who constantly insult me.

And for every single time you've said that, you've replied to those very same people multiple times.

You can even be honest about that. Every time you've said that you wouldn't or that you don't respond to people for some reason, you've actually responded to those very same people. Every...single....time.

There's nothing that you say that can be taken at face value. Not...a...single...thing....you...say.

 

[LA - L.A.]

LIABILITY DISCLAIMER: SaintForLife you dove head first into this while floating up the softest of all softball pitches of a setup. You did this to yourself. You have no one to blame but yourself. You would have done it to me if the tables were turned and I would have laughed my arse off about it. I hope you have enough humility and sense of humor to laugh.

Hey Saintforlife, you are a complete idiot who believes all these crazy right wing conspiracy theories. You lie constantly and you are a troll...

He finally says something that can be taken at face value.

 

[LA - L.A.]

Yeah you don't seem like the kind of person I want to spend time replying too. You must be a blast at parties

And yet here you are once again replying to someone while saying they're nothing worth of you replying to them.

I mean, it's beyond absurdly comical at this point, it's absurdly tragic.

 

[LA - L.A.]

...I'm just not going to spend my time responding to someone...

When? When are you going to actually stop responding?

At this point, what you are actually doing is using "I'm not going to respond" as a way to avoid responding to what people say and distract others from what the other person actually said.

What you should be saying is "hey, I'm not comfortable and competent enough to talk about the very valid points you raised, so instead I'm going to talk about how I'm not going to respond to you, because youz a big old fat meanie, and hope nobody notices that I have no idea how to respond to the very valid points you made, mmmkay?"