Is Russia about to invade Ukraine? (2 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

Russia continues to mass assets within range of Ukraine - though the official explanations are that they are for various exercises. United States intelligence has noted that Russian operatives in Ukraine could launch 'false flag' operations as a predicate to invasion. The West has pressed for negotiations and on Friday in Geneva, the US Sec. State Blinken will meet with the Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov.

Certainly the Russian movements evidence some plan - but what is it? Some analysts believe that Putin's grand scheme involves securing Western commitments that NATO would never expand beyond its current composition. Whether that means action in Ukraine or merely the movement of pieces on the chess board remains to be seen.

VIENNA — No one expected much progress from this past week’s diplomatic marathon to defuse the security crisis Russia has ignited in Eastern Europe by surrounding Ukraine on three sides with 100,000 troops and then, by the White House’s accounting, sending in saboteurs to create a pretext for invasion.

But as the Biden administration and NATO conduct tabletop simulations about how the next few months could unfold, they are increasingly wary of another set of options for President Vladimir V. Putin, steps that are more far-reaching than simply rolling his troops and armor over Ukraine’s border.

Mr. Putin wants to extend Russia’s sphere of influence to Eastern Europe and secure written commitments that NATO will never again enlarge. If he is frustrated in reaching that goal, some of his aides suggested on the sidelines of the negotiations last week, then he would pursue Russia’s security interests with results that would be felt acutely in Europe and the United States.

There were hints, never quite spelled out, that nuclear weapons could be shifted to places — perhaps not far from the United States coastline — that would reduce warning times after a launch to as little as five minutes, potentially igniting a confrontation with echoes of the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis.

Russia Issues Subtle Threats More Far-Reaching Than a Ukraine Invasion

If the West fails to meet its security demands, Moscow could take measures like placing nuclear missiles close to the U.S. coastline, Russian officials have hinted.

www.nytimes.com

Blinken Will Meet With Russia as U.S. Pushes for More Diplomacy

Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken will meet with Foreign Minister Sergey V. Lavrov of Russia in Geneva on Friday as the United States warns that Russia could soon attack Ukraine.

www.nytimes.com

How to think about war in Ukraine

Start with the Ukrainians

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[SaintForLife]

Because Russia is still there. They are OCCUPYING 20 percent of Georgia.


The hubris to pretend you know more then the people who live in Georgia. That the citizens of this country are being duped by the CIA.


It was in the AP article you clearly still haven't read. It's used for censorship.


Georgia, and Ukraine are both occupied by Russia. Your galaxy brained idea is that any anti-russia opinions, or sentiment in these countries must be a CIA plot.

So you aren't as smart as you think you are and you refuse to comment on why making foreign funded NGOs disclose their funding it bad except for parroting the Russia censorship talking points.

Do you support the CIA using NGOs to destabilize countries?

Mick Wallace of the EU parliament said the US is doing what you claim they aren't doing.

 

[J-DONK]

So you aren't as smart as you think you are and you refuse to comment on why making foreign funded NGOs disclose their funding it bad except for parroting the Russia censorship talking points.

Do you support the CIA using NGOs to destabilize countries?

Mick Wallace of the EU parliament said the US is doing what you claim they aren't doing.

America has to be the bad guy. Not the nation that is currently invading said country. That makes you sound insane.

Russia pilled to the max.

 

[brandon]

Clearly, the right-wing-o-sphere has ramped up their usage of "NGO" this week.

Wonder how many can even tell you what it stands for without looking it up.

 

[SaintForLife]

America has to be the bad guy. Not the nation that is currently invading said country. That makes you sound insane.

Russia pilled to the max.

Still not a word about if it's a bad thing to know what foreign countries are funding NGOs to try to destabilize their country. It's an easy thing to answer.

Do you think it's a good thing for the CIA to destabilize countries through NGOs? I'm guessing you do since you won't answer that either. If you don't want to answer those questions that's fine, but why keep replying to my posts?

 

[efil4]

So you aren't as smart as you think you are and you refuse to comment on why making foreign funded NGOs disclose their funding it bad except for parroting the Russia censorship talking points.

Do you support the CIA using NGOs to destabilize countries?

Mick Wallace of the EU parliament said the US is doing what you claim they aren't doing.

Lol Mick Wallace.

Do some homework. He never met an authoritarian he didn't love.

 

[DaveXA]

Still not a word about if it's a bad thing to know what foreign countries are funding NGOs to try to destabilize their country. It's an easy thing to answer.

Do you think it's a good thing for the CIA to destabilize countries through NGOs? I'm guessing you do since you won't answer that either. If you don't want to answer those questions that's fine, but why keep replying to my posts?

I suspect you have no clue what an NGO actually is. Your legendary gish galloping is on a roll in this thread. You have yet to make a single coherent point.

 

[SaintForLife]

Lol Mick Wallace.

Do some homework. He never met an authoritarian he didn't love.

He loves Biden?

 

[J-DONK]

Still not a word about if it's a bad thing to know what foreign countries are funding NGOs to try to destabilize their country. It's an easy thing to answer.

Do you think it's a good thing for the CIA to destabilize countries through NGOs? I'm guessing you do since you won't answer that either. If you don't want to answer those questions that's fine, but why keep replying to my posts?

Wouldn't political instability only help the country trying to conquer Georgia?

What does America have to gain here? What's the motive?

It's just like Ukraine. It can't be these are Europeans with interest in their own part of the world that have nothing to do with America. You can't comprehend that world. There has to be an American plot in every single action in the entire world.

 

[SaintForLife]

Wouldn't political instability only help the country trying to conquer Georgia?

What does America have to gain here? What's the motive?

It's just like Ukraine. It can't be these are Europeans with interest in their own part of the world that have nothing to do with America. You can't comprehend that world. There has to be an American plot in every single action in the entire world.

Still won't answer the question lol.

 

[J-DONK]

Still won't answer the question lol.

I just did. You can't comprehend the answer.

 

[J-DONK]

Can we all take a moment of silence for SFL.

This dude hasn't posted back yet.

Could the light bulb finally be going off?

What are the chances the CIA just so happens to be destabilizing, and couping the two countries Russia currently occupies?

Is that more likely, or that you drink Russian propaganda from breakfast, lunch, and dinner?

 

[SaintForLife]

I just did. You can't comprehend the answer.

Nope. You won't directly address why it's bad to know the foreign countries funding destabilization in their country. I understand it undercuts your position that the CIA isn't destabilizing different countries. You probably think the CIA we see in the movies is what happens in real life.

 

[J-DONK]

Nope. You won't directly address why it's bad to know the foreign countries funding destabilization in their country. I understand it undercuts your position that the CIA isn't destabilizing different countries. You probably think the CIA we see in the movies is what happens in real life.

God, you are conceited for someone who doesn't get it.

You are the one asserting this cia movie plot, so what's the motive? Us non-galaxy brained don't see one. In fact, weakening a country occupied by Russia should help Russia, so why do it?

History tells you these protest are honest, and centered around that one law. How is that destabilizing?

I look forward to you to never answering this.

 

[SaintForLife]

God, you are conceited for someone who doesn't get it.

You are the one asserting this cia movie plot, so what's the motive? Us non-galaxy brained don't see one. In fact, weakening a country occupied by Russia should help Russia, so why do it?

History tells you these protest are honest, and centered around that one law. How is that destabilizing?

I look forward to you to never answering this.

It's been reported many times about the bad things the CIA has been involved in, but sure keep up the CIA only does good things narrative if it makes feel better about mindlessly supporting US foreign policy.

 

[DaveXA]

It's been reported many times about the bad things the CIA has been involved in, but sure keep up the CIA only does good things narrative if it makes feel better about mindlessly supporting US foreign policy.

Reading comprehension is a thing. Try it some time. Quote anything he said referencing the CIA only doing good things. You won't find it because no one said that. Good grief, still galloping as hard as ever.

 

[MT15]

Reading comprehension is a thing. Try it some time. Quote anything he said referencing the CIA only doing good things. You won't find it because no one said that. Good grief, still galloping as hard as ever.

Truly ridiculous.

 

[J-DONK]

It's been reported many times about the bad things the CIA has been involved in, but sure keep up the CIA only does good things narrative if it makes feel better about mindlessly supporting US foreign policy.

This is simple.

GIVE US A MOTIVE

Russia invades a country > invaded country does something vaguely anti-russian> SFL comes in with "iT muST Be TTHJHEE GGGLLOWWWIEESSS"

 

[LA - L.A.]

...if it makes feel better about mindlessly supporting US foreign policy.

To those who mindlessly support Putin's Russian foreign policy, American's who give any support to US foreign policies that Putin doesn't like are "mindlessly supporting US foreign policy."

SaintForLIfe hasn't given a second of thought to the possibility of moving to Russia. That tells you that even they know that the US is a much better country with a much better foreign policy intention and track record than Putin's Russia.

Even SaintForLife honestly knows that Putin's Russia is far worse than the US ever has been and it's not at all close.

They're only vocally supporting Putin's Russia, because Trump openly supports Putin's Russia. The second that Trump turns on Putin's Russia, SaintForLife will immediately turn on Putin's Russia.

The loyalty is to Trump, not Putin's Russia. This is just one in a long list of reasons people shouldn't vote for Trump.

If Trump wins, he will do everything he can to turn the US into Trump's version of Putin's Russia. Tragically, the foundation is in place for him to probably be able to pull it off.