Is Russia about to invade Ukraine? (3 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

Russia continues to mass assets within range of Ukraine - though the official explanations are that they are for various exercises. United States intelligence has noted that Russian operatives in Ukraine could launch 'false flag' operations as a predicate to invasion. The West has pressed for negotiations and on Friday in Geneva, the US Sec. State Blinken will meet with the Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov.

Certainly the Russian movements evidence some plan - but what is it? Some analysts believe that Putin's grand scheme involves securing Western commitments that NATO would never expand beyond its current composition. Whether that means action in Ukraine or merely the movement of pieces on the chess board remains to be seen.

VIENNA — No one expected much progress from this past week’s diplomatic marathon to defuse the security crisis Russia has ignited in Eastern Europe by surrounding Ukraine on three sides with 100,000 troops and then, by the White House’s accounting, sending in saboteurs to create a pretext for invasion.

But as the Biden administration and NATO conduct tabletop simulations about how the next few months could unfold, they are increasingly wary of another set of options for President Vladimir V. Putin, steps that are more far-reaching than simply rolling his troops and armor over Ukraine’s border.

Mr. Putin wants to extend Russia’s sphere of influence to Eastern Europe and secure written commitments that NATO will never again enlarge. If he is frustrated in reaching that goal, some of his aides suggested on the sidelines of the negotiations last week, then he would pursue Russia’s security interests with results that would be felt acutely in Europe and the United States.

There were hints, never quite spelled out, that nuclear weapons could be shifted to places — perhaps not far from the United States coastline — that would reduce warning times after a launch to as little as five minutes, potentially igniting a confrontation with echoes of the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis.

Russia Issues Subtle Threats More Far-Reaching Than a Ukraine Invasion

If the West fails to meet its security demands, Moscow could take measures like placing nuclear missiles close to the U.S. coastline, Russian officials have hinted.

www.nytimes.com

Blinken Will Meet With Russia as U.S. Pushes for More Diplomacy

Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken will meet with Foreign Minister Sergey V. Lavrov of Russia in Geneva on Friday as the United States warns that Russia could soon attack Ukraine.

www.nytimes.com

How to think about war in Ukraine

Start with the Ukrainians

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[efil4]

Not quite

Is the Pope working for Putin?

How could someone want the war to stop without working for or supporting Putin? According to you guys, that's not possible.

Lol at posting GlobalThinker. Lolol dude reposts Scott Ritter, Matthew Van Dike etc.

What a joke you have become.

 

[efil4]

Wait, you said was staged. Now you sound like you approve of them pulling men off the streets and forcing them to fight.

Is the Pope under control of Putin? Because according to you guys, anyone who criticizes US foreign policy or wants to war to stop supports Putin.

Do you see how idiotic that logic is when you apply it to someone like the pope that you can't smear?

I never said Pope was under Russian control. I said he should stick to pontificating. The leader of the Catholic Church is now telling me how bad war is, and you can't see the irony? Know your history bro.

Again, you have one, just one source...GlobalThinker. and you obviously failed to do any sort of due diligence to see exactly who you are parroting.

Your consistency in this regard is commendable. You never tire of having your shoelaces tied together.

Keep running. It's comical.

 

[DaveXA]

Your allegiance is to the US war machine as well as Boeing, Lockheed Martin, General Dyanmics, Northrop Grumman, etc.

 

[DaveXA]

Your allegiance is to Putin.

Couldn't be more obvious, lol.

 

[bird]

Your allegiance is to the US war machine as well as Boeing, Lockheed Martin, General Dyanmics, Northrop Grumman, etc.

Well, that you’re couching your approval of anything Putin does or might do as peacenik talk is laughable. Tell me, if we cut money to defense contractors where will it go? What would you spend it on? Homelessness? Hunger? Single payer healthcare? What of those who lose jobs when job cuts come including down the chain of second and third tier suppliers? Have those monies go to those workers using government as the employer of last resort like Minsky suggested?

 

[efil4]

 

[SaintForLife]

Lol at posting GlobalThinker. Lolol dude reposts Scott Ritter, Matthew Van Dike etc.

What a joke you have become.

The source was this journalist.

 

[efil4]

The source was this journalist.

And who's words were " zelenskys concentration camp"?

It wasn't Vitaliy

 

[SaintForLife]

And who's words were " zelenskys concentration camp"?

It wasn't Vitaliy

Vitaliy Glagola posted it on his Telegram.

 

[SaintForLife]

The wars have been planned in advance, but keep slurping up that corporate media war propaganda.

 

[efil4]

Vitaliy Glagola posted it on his Telegram.

Did you read his telegram post?

No you didn't.

Not all that uncommon for you.

 

[SaintForLife]

War in Ukraine

Mainstream media failures in covering the war in Ukraine this year ranged from seeming to downplay questions about who blew up the Nord Stream pipeline and ignoring key flashpoints that could have expanded the conflict into a direct U.S. war with Russia.

But back in June, the New York Times’ Paul Krugman provided a window into how many top journalists and pundits view U.S. foreign policy more broadly, and the war in Ukraine specifically: through the lens of American exceptionalism. Krugman used the D-Day anniversary this year to lament that Americans and other Western democracies weren’t sufficiently supportive of Ukraine’s war against Russia, saying then that if the country’s counteroffensive fails (which by now it has), “it will be a disaster not just for Ukraine but for the world.”

As RS noted at the time, Krugman’s argument “follows a problematic pattern among many in the media whose historical reference point will always be World War II and in turn believe the United States can apply that experience to any other world problem no matter how dissimilar or unrelated it is, or whether even a military solution is required.” Of course there were many calling for a more diplomatic approach to ending the war then and the evidence six months later suggests they were right.

A month before Krugman’s article, the Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg and Anne Applebaum published a lengthy article running along the same themes. The piece was based largely on an uncritical relay of an interview with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that crescendos to a call for taking back Crimea — a maximalist military objective that most sober observers believe to be unachievable — and overthrowing Putin, all in the name of a global struggle between good and evil. Except, as QI’s Anatol Lieven pointed out then, most of the rest of the world doesn’t see it that way.

“It is not that people in these countries approve of the Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Lieven wrote in RS. “It is that they do not perceive such a huge difference between the regional hegemonic ambitions and criminal actions of Russia and the global ones of the United States; and they are thoroughly sick of having their opinions and interests ignored by Washington in the name of an American moral superiority that actual U.S. policies in their parts of the world have repeatedly belied.”

Mainstream media wasn't good for US foreign policy in 2023

Major themes this year focused on feeding the Ukraine war, hyping the China threat, and avoiding context in Israel-Palestine

responsiblestatecraft.org

Applebaum & Goldberg: Truth attended by a bodyguard of lies

In the Atlantic writers' latest attempt to frame the war as a global struggle between good and evil, they cut too many corners to ignore.

responsiblestatecraft.org

 

[SaintForLife]

Did you read his telegram post?

No you didn't.

Not all that uncommon for you.

Yes I did

 

[SaintForLife]

I did not have ISIS attacking Russia on my bingo card

Russia says 60 dead, 145 injured in concert hall raid; Islamic State group claims responsibility

Russia’s Federal Security Service says over 30 people were killed and more than 100 were wounded in an attack at a Moscow concert hall.

apnews.com

The ISIS member

 

[efil4]

Yes I did

So I'll ask again, who's words were those? " Zelensky concentration camps)

 

[efil4]

The ISIS member

Spend those rubles quick comrade.Their value will continue to decline.

 

[J-DONK]

The wars have been planned in advance, but keep slurping up that corporate media war propaganda.

This stuff is honestly funny. Russia start a war in mainland Europe, and you are posting about American Imperialism.

 

[SaintForLife]

This stuff is honestly funny. Russia start a war in mainland Europe, and you are posting about American Imperialism.

It's probably hard for you to keep up with what we were talking about since you are so much smarter than me, but my previous reply before the one you quoted was about the US war machine and the military industrial complex.