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    A couple of days ago, one of the main US-MX border points of entry was blocked by 1000's of migrants demanding entry into the country, which caused chaos for those who lawfully cross the border on business, for work, or for delivery of goods, both ways.

    Lawful border crossings are getting progressively worse across the border, and drug cartels are finding it easier to move product, as the CBP has to transfer personnel and efforts to the processing of migrants.

    It's not different on MX's South border. Yesterday, ~5000 migrants stormed into Chiapas all the way to the INM building (INM is immigration) running over fences, barricades, and elements of the National Guard. They are now taking over an ecological park in Tapachula, Chiapas, which it's going to be severely affected, as it's been the case with just about everywhere migrants squat.

    Unfortunately, Juan Trump (that's Donald Trump's pet name for the President of México) was bamboozled by his "friend" Donald into making MX a "lobby" for migrants trying to reach the U.S.

    Many people would argue that migrants are "good for the economy", but that is not always the case. Billions of dollars leave the U.S. economy every year, because migrants send money from the U.S. to other countries to support families there. The biggest destinations are India and MX, to the tune of 100 billion dollars in 2023 alone, according to the Bank of México (kind of like the MX version of the Fed). These billions of dollars do not circulate in the U.S. economy.

    Speaking of inflation, the past year, the U.S. dollar has lost ~20% of its value against the MX peso. One of the main reasons for it, is the amount of money being sent to MX from the U.S. And MX is the U.S. 2nd largest trading partner.

    Gregg Abbott is a lot of things, but I don't blame him for his attempts at curbing the hordes of people demanding entry into the U.S., even the busing of migrants to other States, making some put their money where their mouth is, like the Mayor of NYC, who was so welcoming of migrants, until he he got a taste, then went crying to the federal government for more money, while the shelters were at full capacity; shelters which BTW serve the NYC poor as well.

    And please, no one mention a wall. There is a wall. A wall can be climbed; a wall can be dug under.; holes can be punched through walls.
     
    They weren't following it anyway. The wait time became so long, that they just stopped using that system.

    Once they step foot in the US, we have to give them due process. The remain in Mexico policy didn't really punish anyone who just ignored it. If they made it across the border and into the US, their asylum claims still had to be heard. It didn't take long for people to figure that out.
    It didn't stop everyone, but it helped.

    Why did he end Executive action 13768? Shouldn't we remove illegal immigrants that have committed crimes or that are suspected of committing crimes. But I shouldn't be surprised when you see many progressive District Attorneys who decline prosecuting many criminals.

    This provision of the executive order greatly expands the category of people classified as "priorities for removal," making all aliens who have been charged with a crime, or believed could have been charged with a crime, priorities for deportation.

    Here are some more things that the Biden Administration did for the open border policy.

    -Secretary of State Antony Blinken suspended, and began termination procedures, for the Trump Administration’s Asylum Cooperative Agreements with El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras. These agreements ensured aliens seeking asylum could do so in countries closer to their home country and in countries other than the United States.

    -DHS began issuing illegal alien border crossers a Notice to Report (NTR) to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, as opposed to the standard Notice to Appear (NTA) in U.S. immigration court. The NTR policy allows illegal aliens to simply be released into the U.S. and relies on them to self-report to ICE at a later date.
     
    It didn't stop everyone, but it helped.

    Why did he end Executive action 13768? Shouldn't we remove illegal immigrants that have committed crimes or that are suspected of committing crimes. But I shouldn't be surprised when you see many progressive District Attorneys who decline prosecuting many criminals.

    This provision of the executive order greatly expands the category of people classified as "priorities for removal," making all aliens who have been charged with a crime, or believed could have been charged with a crime, priorities for deportation.

    Here are some more things that the Biden Administration did for the open border policy.

    -Secretary of State Antony Blinken suspended, and began termination procedures, for the Trump Administration’s Asylum Cooperative Agreements with El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras. These agreements ensured aliens seeking asylum could do so in countries closer to their home country and in countries other than the United States.

    -DHS began issuing illegal alien border crossers a Notice to Report (NTR) to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, as opposed to the standard Notice to Appear (NTA) in U.S. immigration court. The NTR policy allows illegal aliens to simply be released into the U.S. and relies on them to self-report to ICE at a later date.

    The only thing that made a dent was the pandemic authority we had under title 42.

    Biden has returned to the Obama era streamlined order of deportation that puts criminals at the front of the line.

    Unfortunately, they are still behind all those grandmothers and law abiding (other than being here illegally) citizens that Trump bogged down the court with from 2017 -2020, because he had a policy of blanket deportation for anyone here illegally.

    If you want criminals deported, then you should praising the changes Biden has made.
     
    The Biden Administration ended the policy to stay in Mexico while their asylum claims were processed. Why would he end that policy? Because he wants all those immigrants released into the country for when the Democrats eventually get amnesty passed.
    And there it is - the Great Replacement Theory. Good lord how do you do it?
     

    You can post that all you want - it’s a propaganda post. It doesn’t change the fact that you have fallen for the Great Replacement Theory. Yet another conspiracy theory, just with extra racism.
     
    You can post that all you want - it’s a propaganda post. It doesn’t change the fact that you have fallen for the Great Replacement Theory. Yet another conspiracy theory, just with extra racism.
    How are Democrats own words propaganda. Did you run out of things to say?

    Democrats and Republicans both talk about changing demographics, but Democrats claim when Republicans do it it's the Great replacement theory. But when Democrats do it it's something different.

    Do you ever get tired of falsely accusing people you disagree with of being racists, white supremacist, antisemites, Russian supporters? I understand that's the standard Democrat playbook, but it's obvious bullshirt to anyone who isn't a partisan Democrat.
     
    How are Democrats own words propaganda. Did you run out of things to say?

    Democrats and Republicans both talk about changing demographics, but Democrats claim when Republicans do it it's the Great replacement theory. But when Democrats do it it's something different.

    Do you ever get tired of falsely accusing people you disagree with of being racists, white supremacist, antisemites, Russian supporters? I understand that's the standard Democrat playbook, but it's obvious bullshirt to anyone who isn't a partisan Democrat.
    So here’s the difference because you pretend to not be able to figure it out. It’s fine to talk about changing demographics, that’s just reality. It’s happening and that’s that.

    But when you use it to say that democrats are for open borders so they can get all these immigrants signed up to vote and cancel out all the GOP votes - now you’re espousing a nonsense conspiracy theory and a racist one to boot.

    Some Rs are even saying that immigrants are being registered to vote at the border. You indicated you believe that democrats have this grand scheme to permit immigrants to vote as well.

    That’s the Great Replacement conspiracy theory and it stems from white supremacists. That’s just a fact whether you like it or not.
     
    So here’s the difference because you pretend to not be able to figure it out. It’s fine to talk about changing demographics, that’s just reality. It’s happening and that’s that.

    But when you use it to say that democrats are for open borders so they can get all these immigrants signed up to vote and cancel out all the GOP votes - now you’re espousing a nonsense conspiracy theory and a racist one to boot.

    Some Rs are even saying that immigrants are being registered to vote at the border. You indicated you believe that democrats have this grand scheme to permit immigrants to vote as well.

    That’s the Great Replacement conspiracy theory and it stems from white supremacists. That’s just a fact whether you like it or not.
    Prominent Democrat operatives have written books saying the key to a permanent Democrat majority is ensuring that we have so much immigration that it changes the demographics of the country and the new immigrants will be Democrat voters.

    According to your definition that's the great replacement theory.

    I said there plan is to eventually get amnesty passed and that they would be new Democrat voters. I didn't say they were trying to get illegals to vote in federal elections although they allow that in some local elections.

    Do you ever get tired of falsely accusing people you disagree with of being racists, white supremacist, antisemites, Russian supporters? I understand that's the standard Democrat playbook, but it's obvious bullshirt to anyone who isn't a partisan Democrat.
     
    Do you ever get tired of falsely accusing people you disagree with of being racists, white supremacist, antisemites, Russian supporters?
    How can you be so unaware of your own tactics on here? I never said you were racist. But it is a fact that the Great Replacement Theory comes from white supremacists.

    Once again - discussing what is obviously happening and the effect it will have on voting patterns is NOT the same as saying it’s a PLOT by democrats (or actually in the original white supremacist version it is a PLOT by Jews) to change the demographics of this country.

    For one thing - there is no guarantee how new citizens will vote or which party they will support. If I was the GOP I would look at appealing to more of the population as demographics change. But they seem to be doing just the opposite. Just narrowing their appeal down and down.
     
    Here is a paper of the actions taken by this administration to help secure the border. Once again, there are limited things the Executive Branch can do, as it’s Congress that must act to reform the system.

     
    How can you be so unaware of your own tactics on here? I never said you were racist. But it is a fact that the Great Replacement Theory comes from white supremacists.

    Once again - discussing what is obviously happening and the effect it will have on voting patterns is NOT the same as saying it’s a PLOT by democrats (or actually in the original white supremacist version it is a PLOT by Jews) to change the demographics of this country.

    For one thing - there is no guarantee how new citizens will vote or which party they will support. If I was the GOP I would look at appealing to more of the population as demographics change. But they seem to be doing just the opposite. Just narrowing their appeal down and down.
    I see you skipped over this part of my reply.

    Prominent Democrat operatives have written books saying the key to a permanent Democrat majority is ensuring that we have so much immigration that it changes the demographics of the country and the new immigrants will be Democrat voters.

    According to your definition that's the great replacement theory.
     
    I see you skipped over this part of my reply.

    Prominent Democrat operatives have written books saying the key to a permanent Democrat majority is ensuring that we have so much immigration that it changes the demographics of the country and the new immigrants will be Democrat voters.

    According to your definition that's the great replacement theory.
    Which prominent Democratic operatives and which books?
     

    Can you even comprehend what was said in an honest manner? The tweet is twisting it around, being dishonest on purpose.

    Biden said our diversity is the source of our strength as a nation. That being diverse is a good thing. That was it.

    That isn’t a political POV, there isn’t any mention of what political party will benefit. It has been true of America for as long as it’s been around. America has benefited greatly from every group of immigrants it has welcomed. Immigrants have a tendency to work hard and take nothing for granted. It’s been that way ever since your own ancestors were immigrants.

    How did we get so blind - so willfully ignorant - to what America is all about?
     
    Maga Republican lawmaker Anna Paulina Luna lashed out an immigration expert after he laughed at her defence of the Trump administration’s policies of separating migrant children from their parents.

    During a House of Representatives hearing on Wednesday, Ms Luna contested that the policies had inflicted psychological trauma on the children.

    Responding to Cato Institute immigration expert David Bier, she said: “You talk about intentional trauma and that the Trump administration caused intentional trauma by separating these children from their quote-unquote ‘parents’.

    “The fact is, is that… you don’t know what these people are like.” Ms Luna then paused to ask: “Mr Bier why are you laughing?”

    Mr Bier responded: “Because you said, ‘quote-unquote parents,’ as if they weren’t really their parents.”

    Apparently riled by his response, Ms Luna shot back: “You have no idea if these are their intentional parents or not… Are you psychic? Have you won the lotto, Mr Bier? I don’t think you have.”

    She continued: “You have no idea what you’re doing and you are hurting these children. The reason why we want family separation until we can confirm if they are the actual biological parents is because these kids are being trafficked.……



     

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