Hunter Biden (8 Viewers)

[FullMonte]

Lost in all the news coverage about what's going on in the US right now is this bit of information.

The Ukrainian government has completed an audit of thousands of case files related to Burisma. Ruslan Ryaboshapka (the prosecutor general), described by Zelenskiy as "100 percent my person" in the July phone call with president Trump said "I specifically asked prosecutors to check especially carefully those facts about Biden's alleged involvement. They answered that there was nothing of the kind."

Not that anyone SHOULD be surprised to find out that Hunter Biden was not implicated in something that was done by the CEO of Burisma in his role as a government employee, that happened two years before Biden joined the board.

Ukrainian prosecutors find no evidence against Hunter Biden

Audit probed energy company Burisma, of which Biden was a board member from 2014-2019

www.theguardian.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

Yep, not too surprising. I guess now the judge determines the penalty, or whenever that happens. I'm sure this is going to be appealed, but not sure what the odds are for it being overturned.

Care to place a wager on that?

 

[coldseat]

Guilty on all charges...

Hunter Biden found guilty on all counts in gun case | CNN Politics

A federal jury found Hunter Biden guilty Tuesday on all three federal felony gun charges he faced.

www.cnn.com

He probably shouldn't have written a tell all book and basically confessed to it all, especially in this political environment. Hindsight is 20/20 and that's probably how he made money to pay legal fees and other stuff, but he basically gave the jury a road map to where they had no choice but to convict him on the facts of the case.

We'll see what the judge does at sentencing.

 

[DaveXA]

Care to place a wager on that?

I'll just piggyback on someone else's wager that way I don't risk anything.

 

[Lapaz]

He probably shouldn't have written a tell all book and basically confessed to it all, especially in this political environment. Hindsight is 20/20 and that's probably how he made money to pay legal fees and other stuff, but he basically gave the jury a road map to where they had no choice but to convict him on the facts of the case.

We'll see what the judge does at sentencing.

There is no doubt that he is guilty. The penalties should be very small, since he has no priors, and no other crime was committed. If the penalty is reasonable, which I believe should be less than 1 year, then I hope he just serves his time. If it is longer, then I hope this leads to many convictions of conservative addicts buying and possessing guns. If so, it may make our country safer, and he would be our anti-hero.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

And of course, the conviction is not enough for Fair Leader as there's Russia, and Ukraine, and China all passing cash to the great Biden Crime Family...

 

[J-DONK]

And of course, the conviction is not enough for Fair Leader as there's Russia, and Ukraine, and China all passing cash to the great Biden Crime Family...

I'm just waiting for SFL to tell us how the conviction is proof. That Biden's DOJ are all toadies.

 

[SaintForLife]

 

[brandon]

Hunter’s guilty of a crime. Cool. Send him to jail if he’s guilty, like I always said.

I’ll place a bet that SFL won’t say the same thing about Trump.

 

[zztop]

I'm just waiting for SFL to tell us how the conviction is proof. That Biden's DOJ are all toadies.

yeah, I thought Biden was a mastermind who controlled the courts and used his power and influence to (unjustly) target and punish his political opponents

 

[coldseat]

yeah, I thought Biden was a mastermind who controlled the courts and used his power and influence to (unjustly) target and punish his political opponents

This would have gone much better for Trump/MAGA had Hunter been acquitted. Now they have to come up with a nonsensical conspiracy theory as to why Hunter was convicted in a secret plot to help Joe Biden win reelection. It may take a few days to see what sticks to the wall, but it's coming.

 

[MT15]

It seems like Massie is saying this was a bad prosecution. Is that what you’re trying to convey here?

 

[Lapaz]

I agree that no one should go to jail for marijuana possession or even use while possessing a gun, because the DEA is trying to change marijuana from level 1 to 3, and Biden pardoned people. I do think addicts shouldn’t be allowed to buy and possess guns, particularly hard drugs like crack. Some jail time is warranted for violating that. I hope this leads to fewer guns.

 

[coldseat]

I agree that no one should go to jail for marijuana possession or even use while possessing a gun, because the DEA is trying to change marijuana from level 1 to 3, and Biden pardoned people. I do think addicts shouldn’t be allowed to buy and possess guns, particularly hard drugs like crack. Some jail time is warranted for violating that. I hope this leads to fewer guns.

I don't know if jail time is really warranted here given that he never had any nefarious intent, has no priors, only had possession of the gun for 18 days (form what I've read) and that he has addressed his addiction and is in recovery (i.e. he's not currently abusing).

I think a fine, some community service and having him do some PSA on addiction and gun ownership/laws would much better serve the public than sentencing Hunter to any jail time. Especially given how rarely this crime is prosecuted without some other attached criminal offense or intent.

 

[Lapaz]

I don't know if jail time is really warranted here given that he never had any nefarious intent, has no priors, only had possession of the gun for 18 days (form what I've read) and that he has addressed his addiction and is in recovery (i.e. he's not currently abusing).

I think a fine, some community service and having him do some PSA on addiction and gun ownership/laws would much better serve the public than sentencing Hunter to any jail time. Especially given how rarely this crime is prosecuted without some other attached criminal offense or intent.

I know this has never been prosecuted before without priors or a gun being used for a crime, but the Pandora's box is now open, so I support using it to get tougher on gun crimes. We can start with giving jail time for addicts who possess guns, irrespective of other crimes. It can be 1 month, and then some probation period without guns. I'm all about doing things to start getting tougher to reduce the amount of guns in this country.

 

[J-DONK]

It seems like Massie is saying this was a bad prosecution. Is that what you’re trying to convey here?

I love how he gives no context, or thoughts on it. He just throws in a random tweet, and leaves.

 

[coldseat]

I know this has never been prosecuted before without priors or a gun being used for a crime, but the Pandora's box is now open, so I support using it to get tougher on gun crimes. We can start with giving jail time for addicts who possess guns, irrespective of other crimes. It can be 1 month, and then some probation period without guns. I'm all about doing things to start getting tougher to reduce the amount of guns in this country.

I'm all for reducing the number of guns in our country, but I don't think the way to go about it is to put non-violent drug addicts in jail for for possessing a gun or lying on a gun form about being addicted. Those types of policies always come down harder on poor and minority groups than they do on the middle class, the wealthy or other privileged groups. I also think there are better ways to go about it than through threat of jail.

 

[MT15]

 

[Lapaz]

I'm all for reducing the number of guns in our country, but I don't think the way to go about it is to put non-violent drug addicts in jail for for possessing a gun or lying on a gun form about being addicted. Those types of policies always come down harder on poor and minority groups than they do on the middle class, the wealthy or other privileged groups. I also think there are better ways to go about it than through threat of jail.

There may be better ways, but none are being implemented, so I say use this opening to reduce gun access. I was being somewhat over zealous in my call to prosecute. I would only target people with a history of violence, but I bet there are thousands of people that would qualify. It would probably save some lives.