Hunter Biden (3 Viewers)

[FullMonte]

Lost in all the news coverage about what's going on in the US right now is this bit of information.

The Ukrainian government has completed an audit of thousands of case files related to Burisma. Ruslan Ryaboshapka (the prosecutor general), described by Zelenskiy as "100 percent my person" in the July phone call with president Trump said "I specifically asked prosecutors to check especially carefully those facts about Biden's alleged involvement. They answered that there was nothing of the kind."

Not that anyone SHOULD be surprised to find out that Hunter Biden was not implicated in something that was done by the CEO of Burisma in his role as a government employee, that happened two years before Biden joined the board.

Ukrainian prosecutors find no evidence against Hunter Biden

Audit probed energy company Burisma, of which Biden was a board member from 2014-2019

www.theguardian.com

 

[SFIDC3]

It’s a first offense, no way Hunter does time, but community service and probation are likely IMO….man I hope Trump gets community service, that would be awesome….

 

[MT15]

There may be better ways, but none are being implemented, so I say use this opening to reduce gun access. I was being somewhat over zealous in my call to prosecute. I would only target people with a history of violence, but I bet there are thousands of people that would qualify. It would probably save some lives.

They just covered a case that is going to go to the Supreme Court. Plaintiffs are challenging the constitutionality of the statute that the jury just convicted Hunter for. Didn’t catch who the plaintiff is. But the US Solicitor General is arguing to keep the statute in place, which once again shows that Biden is staying out of it. He could tell the DOJ not to oppose the challenge, which would moot Hunter’s conviction, if the SCOTUS would strike it down.

I also saw where 2 of the jurors have already given interviews to CNN. Funny how they’re not afraid to come out and discuss the case, isn’t it?

 

[MT15]

This is funny - but seriously - how does this work? Who makes felons give up their guns? How is it done?



Edit: when I looked at this page again, it seems the tweet has been deleted or something. It was saying that during his meeting with his probation officer Trump disclosed that he owns a gun and keeps it at Mar-A-Lago. Since it’s illegal for him to have the gun, the poster made the point that he has owned this gun in violation of the law approximately as long as Hunter illegally owned his gun.

 

[fooferdoggie]

And of course, the conviction is not enough for Fair Leader as there's Russia, and Ukraine, and China all passing cash to the great Biden Crime Family...

since when did the Biden family start calling themselves the Trump family?

 

[fooferdoggie]

It’s a first offense, no way Hunter does time, but community service and probation are likely IMO….man I hope Trump gets community service, that would be awesome….

but he will claim he already does community service by running for office.

 

[DaveXA]

I love how he gives no context, or thoughts on it. He just throws in a random tweet, and leaves.

Pretty typical.

 

[Optimus Prime]

This would have gone much better for Trump/MAGA had Hunter been acquitted. Now they have to come up with a nonsensical conspiracy theory as to why Hunter was convicted in a secret plot to help Joe Biden win reelection. It may take a few days to see what sticks to the wall, but it's coming.

Republicans responded to Hunter Biden’s conviction on Tuesday of lying about his drug use to buy a gun by doubling down on conspiracy theories that many senior party figures have been using to try and damage his president father.

Despite the fact that Joe Biden’s son could now face a hefty jail sentence, Donald Trump’s election campaign and its surrogates repeated unfounded attack lines that the conviction was part of a conspiracy to deflect attention from more serious crimes and represented the use of the Department of Justice (DoJ) as a political weapon.

Republicans have long sought to use Hunter Biden’s woes and business dealings as a political weapon against Biden, ignoring the fact that Trump himself is also now a convicted felon whose own business empire has been fined hundreds of millions of dollars for fraudulent practises.


That tactic continued in the wake of Hunter’s guilty verdict.

“This trial has been nothing more than a distraction from the real crimes of the Biden Crime Family, which has raked in tens of millions of dollars from China, Russia and Ukraine,” the Trump campaign said in a statement.

Matt Gaetz, the far-right congressman from Florida, was distinctly dismissive, posting on X: “The Hunter Biden gun conviction is kinda dumb tbh.”

That was echoed by Charlie Kirk, a conservative activist and founder of Turning Point USA, who derided the conviction as a distraction from worse crimes he claimed have been committed by the president’s family.

“Hunter Biden guilty. Yawn,” Kirk wrote. “The true crimes of the Biden Crime Family remain untouched. This is a fake trial trying to make the Justice system appear ‘balanced.’ Don’t fall for it.”

Nancy Mace, a Republican congresswoman for South Carolina, implied that the verdict was a sham. “Timing is everything. The veil of fairness in the justice system under Potus,” she wrote.


Stephen Miller, one of Donald Trump’s closest advisers during his first presidency, went further still, posting: “[The] DoJ is running election interference for Joe Biden – that’s why DOJ did NOT charge Hunter with being an unregistered foreign agent (FARA) or any crime connected with foreign corruption. Why? Because all the evidence would lead back to JOE.”

The negative drumbeat underscored how the prosecution – and now conviction – of Hunter Biden has undermined a Republican narrative that the justice department has been “weaponised” by Biden’s administration to pursue a vendetta against Trump, who was last month convicted of 34 counts of document falsification to conceal hush-money payments to an adult actor.…..

Republicans push conspiracy theories after Hunter Biden verdict: ‘A fake trial’

Rightwing politicians repeat unfounded theories that gun trial verdict is a ‘distraction’ from worse Biden crimes

www.theguardian.com

 

[MT15]

Perfect, no notes.

 

[MT15]

 

[Optimus Prime]

President Biden changes his schedule to be with his son after guilty verdict

After three hours of deliberations, the jury convicted the president’s son on all charges

www.independent.co.uk

 

[LA - L.A.]

I agree that no one should go to jail for marijuana possession or even use while possessing a gun, because the DEA is trying to change marijuana from level 1 to 3, and Biden pardoned people. I do think addicts shouldn’t be allowed to buy and possess guns, particularly hard drugs like crack. Some jail time is warranted for violating that. I hope this leads to fewer guns.

Alcohol is a really hard drug that is a contributing factor for a significant percentage of violent crimes, more so than any other drug.

Alcohol leads to more violence than other drugs, but you’d never know from the headlines

Media reports tend to link violence to illicit drugs when alcohol is far more likely to be to blame.

theconversation.com

If people who regularly possess and consume alcohol were not allowed to own guns, the personal gun market would nearly dry up completely.

 

[LA - L.A.]

We can start with giving jail time for addicts who possess guns, irrespective of other crimes.

What criteria should be used to determine if someone is an addict or not? Does simply using or possessing a drug make them and addict?

Do they have to be officially diagnosed by a medical or psychological professional before they've violated the law? There's a higher percentage of addicts that are undiagnosed than there are addicts who have been diagnosed.

Why just addicts? No one is ever addicted to a drug when they first use it, but on their first use they are affected by the drug the same as everyone else. So, why just addicts and not everyone that uses drugs?

Is it just going to be illegal drugs or will it focus on the drugs that have the highest risk of violent behavior? More violence is committed by people who consume alcohol as opposed to any other drug, so if the goal is to reduce gun violence, shouldn't it be illegal for anyone who consumes or possesses alcohol to own or use a gun?

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[t_rav_82]

This has likely been hashed out already... but do everyday republicans actually care about his gun purchase? Do Farb and SFL care? If republicans do care about this gun purchase, can we use it as our launching point to talk about other gun purchases we should care about? This is a good starting place.

 

[Optimus Prime]

This has likely been hashed out already... but do everyday republicans actually care about his gun purchase? Do Farb and SFL care? If republicans do care about this gun purchase, can we use it as our launching point to talk about other gun purchases we should care about? This is a good starting place.

of course not.

 

[MT15]

This has likely been hashed out already... but do everyday republicans actually care about his gun purchase? Do Farb and SFL care? If republicans do care about this gun purchase, can we use it as our launching point to talk about other gun purchases we should care about? This is a good starting place.

Nice thought, but if this was Don Jr their heads would explode with all the WITCH HUNT!!!! posts.

 

[FullMonte]

This has likely been hashed out already... but do everyday republicans actually care about his gun purchase? Do Farb and SFL care? If republicans do care about this gun purchase, can we use it as our launching point to talk about other gun purchases we should care about? This is a good starting place.

Of course they care about HIS gun purchase. The question is, do they really care about John Q. Public lying on one question on a gun form.

Personally, what I want to see happen is I want to see Judge Marchan call Trump and his team in, along with prosecutors, and explain that it has been made very clear that the country needs to be much more serious in how they handle individuals who have firearms they are not supposed to have. Hell, even the son of the sitting US President was convicted of breaking the law and owning a firearm he should not have been in possession of such. Due to that change in how the country is handling individuals who break the laws related to gun ownership, he is immediately revoking Trump's release because he admitted to the probation officer during his hearing that he was still in possession of a firearm after his felony conviction.

 

[brandon]

The question is, do they really care about John Q. Public lying on one question on a gun form.

John Q. Public? Probably not.

Tyrone Q. Public? Most definitely.