Hunter Biden (2 Viewers)

[FullMonte]

Lost in all the news coverage about what's going on in the US right now is this bit of information.

The Ukrainian government has completed an audit of thousands of case files related to Burisma. Ruslan Ryaboshapka (the prosecutor general), described by Zelenskiy as "100 percent my person" in the July phone call with president Trump said "I specifically asked prosecutors to check especially carefully those facts about Biden's alleged involvement. They answered that there was nothing of the kind."

Not that anyone SHOULD be surprised to find out that Hunter Biden was not implicated in something that was done by the CEO of Burisma in his role as a government employee, that happened two years before Biden joined the board.

Ukrainian prosecutors find no evidence against Hunter Biden

Audit probed energy company Burisma, of which Biden was a board member from 2014-2019

www.theguardian.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

Two weeks, two big trials, two convictions. After Donald Trump was found guilty of falsifying business records at the end of last month, Hunter Biden, son of Joe, was convicted on Tuesday of buying and owning a gun while being a user of crack cocaine.

The rightwing media had howled in anguish when a jury ruled that the former US president was guilty of 34 felony charges: commentators claiming that the justice system was rigged, that the conviction was political persecution, and that Joe Biden had wielded undue influence in Trump being prosecuted.

Surely then, the Fox Newses and Breitbarts of the world would be similarly outraged by Hunter Biden’s conviction?


Nope.

“The facts were simple, the law was clear and the evidence of guilt can only be described as overwhelming,” Gregg Jarrett, an analyst and commentator for Fox News, wrote on the channel’s website, in a piece which championed the fairness and rigor of the American legal system.

“As it turns out, even a privileged and coddled Biden must abide by the rule of law.”

That was a far cry from Jarrett’s take on the judiciary 13 days earlier, when Trump was convicted in Manhattan.

“Donald Trump did not lose on Thursday,” Jarrett wrote, incorrectly.

“Our once venerated legal system did. And, by extension, all Americans lost something precious. Because the failure of justice is a failure of the people.”


In a 1,000-word outpouring of woe, Jarrett repeated Trump’s – now provably false – claims that no crime was committed, adding “the ideals of a fair trial and an impartial jury faded into a figment of our Founders’ imaginations”.

“The tragic coda to the Trump trial is that Americans can no longer trust our system of justice,” Jarrett wrote solemnly.

Other Fox News personalities similarly revised their opinion of the US legal system.

Jeanine Pirro, a Fox News host, had been outraged after Trump was found guilty, decrying “smoke and mirrors” and claiming “we have gone over a cliff in America”.

“This is a new era in America, and I think it goes against the ilk of who we are as Americans and our faith in the criminal justice system,” Pirro said of Trump’s conviction on 30 May.

She was of a different mind on Tuesday.


“In the end this jury of ordinary people from Delaware were not intimidated by [the Biden] family, and they recognize that this was a clearcut case and that clearly no one is above the law,” Pirro said.……..

Rightwing media decried Trump’s trial. What about Hunter Biden’s?

Trump’s was a ‘made-up charge’, while Hunter was ‘convicted of a real crime’, conservative commentators say

www.theguardian.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

……The new right-wing line that Joe Biden rigged the trial to put his son in prison replaces the old right-wing line that Joe Biden was rigging the trial to keep his son out of prison.

MAGA propagandists claimed that first lady Jill Biden had attended the trial as part of a “mob tactic” to influence the jury, that Joe Biden visiting Beau Biden’s widow was part of a tyrannical plot to tamper with a witness, and that the president was trying to sway the jury by taking bike rides with his son……..

MAGA propagandists juggle conspiracy theories following Hunter Biden verdict

www.mediamatters.org

 

[Optimus Prime]

Hunter Biden’s conviction on gun-ownership charges may have handed his father, Joe, a boost in the forthcoming presidential election, analysts say, because it undermines the image of a president weaponising the US justice system to pursue Donald Trump.

Trump, the former president and presumptive GOP presidential nominee, has pushed that line relentlessly to explain his conviction last month on charges related to the concealment of hush-money payments to a porn star to help him win the 2016 election.

He has made the claim even though his prosecution was brought in a New York state court that is independent of the Department of Justice, which is overseeing 54 other criminal charges against him that have so far not come to trial.


Hunter Biden, by contrast, was prosecuted and convicted under the authority of the justice department, which is part of his father’s administration – an inconvenient fact that weakens Republican claims that it has been turned into a political weapon in the president’s hands.

The result, some observers say, is that Hunter’s conviction may help the president in a close race, even though the personal cost of his son’s troubles is heavy.

That suspicion was further fuelled by a low-key reaction from Republicans that attempted to switch the focus to other supposed crimes they say, but have never proved, that father and son have committed.

“It’s a marginal political gain, that’s what I’m feeling,” said John Zogby, a veteran pollster. “I don’t see it hurting him in any way, and especially when he neutralised the issue when he said he was not going to extend the pardon, which is very painful for him.

“It pulls the rug out from under that Republican argument that the justice system is rigged against Republicans to get Trump … a Biden did not get a pass.”

Zogby said the verdict – and Biden’s acceptance of it – could revive an image that was electorally helpful in 2020 of “Uncle Joe”, a man of empathy who had known suffering and personal tragedy, through the deaths of his eldest son, Beau, from cancer in 2015, and his first wife and baby daughter in a car accident in 1972.……

Hunter Biden conviction could boost father against Trump, experts suggest

Analysts say guilty verdict undermines Trump’s claim that a weaponised justice department is unfairly pursuing him

www.theguardian.com

 

[Lapaz]

What criteria should be used to determine if someone is an addict or not? Does simply using or possessing a drug make them and addict?

Do they have to be officially diagnosed by a medical or psychological professional before they've violated the law? There's a higher percentage of addicts that are undiagnosed than there are addicts who have been diagnosed.

Why just addicts? No one is ever addicted to a drug when they first use it, but on their first use they are affected by the drug the same as everyone else. So, why just addicts and not everyone that uses drugs?

Is it just going to be illegal drugs or will it focus on the drugs that have the highest risk of violent behavior? More violence is committed by people who consume alcohol as opposed to any other drug, so if the goal is to reduce gun violence, shouldn't it be illegal for anyone who consumes or possesses alcohol to own or use a gun?

You convinced me that it may be hard to prove who is an addict, so I revise my opinion. Anyone caught on a 1st offense using a schedule 1 drug, except marijuana, since it soon won't be schedule 1 and never should have been, should face fines and lose their privilege to own a gun for some short period of time. A second offense should lead to some jail and losing their gun for a much longer period. A 3rd offense, and they should permanently lose their gun privilege. These should apply to any felony. As far as other types of drugs, these penalties should only apply after a professional diagnosis of addiction. That'll start to reduce gun ownership and make us safer as lawbreakers and addicts lose their guns.

 

[Lapaz]

……The new right-wing line that Joe Biden rigged the trial to put his son in prison replaces the old right-wing line that Joe Biden was rigging the trial to keep his son out of prison.

MAGA propagandists claimed that first lady Jill Biden had attended the trial as part of a “mob tactic” to influence the jury, that Joe Biden visiting Beau Biden’s widow was part of a tyrannical plot to tamper with a witness, and that the president was trying to sway the jury by taking bike rides with his son……..

MAGA propagandists juggle conspiracy theories following Hunter Biden verdict

www.mediamatters.org

The right wing is braindead. Despite the constant investigations, Biden has been shown to be a law-abiding citizen, while Trump has a long history of breaking laws and settling cases to avoid being convicted. Too bad more of the prosecutors did not reject more of Trump's plea offers so that he would've been convicted many more times.

 

[Optimus Prime]

FASANO, Italy (AP) — President Joe Biden said Thursday that he will not use his presidential powers to lessen the eventual sentence that his son Hunter will receive for his federal felony conviction on gun crimes.

Biden, following the conclusion of a news conference held at the Group of Seven summit of the world’s wealthiest democracies, responded he would not when asked whether he plans to commute the sentence for his son. Hunter Biden’s sentencing date has not been set, and the three counts carry up to 25 years in prison.

Whether Hunter Biden actually serves any time behind bars will be up to U.S. District Judge Maryellen Noreika, who was nominated to the bench by former Republican President Donald Trump……..

President Biden says he won't offer commutation to his son Hunter after gun sentence

President Joe Biden says he will not use his presidential powers to lessen the eventual sentence that his son Hunter will receive for his federal felony conviction on gun crimes.

apnews.com

 

[MT15]

FASANO, Italy (AP) — President Joe Biden said Thursday that he will not use his presidential powers to lessen the eventual sentence that his son Hunter will receive for his federal felony conviction on gun crimes.

Biden, following the conclusion of a news conference held at the Group of Seven summit of the world’s wealthiest democracies, responded he would not when asked whether he plans to commute the sentence for his son. Hunter Biden’s sentencing date has not been set, and the three counts carry up to 25 years in prison.

Whether Hunter Biden actually serves any time behind bars will be up to U.S. District Judge Maryellen Noreika, who was nominated to the bench by former Republican President Donald Trump……..

President Biden says he won't offer commutation to his son Hunter after gun sentence

President Joe Biden says he will not use his presidential powers to lessen the eventual sentence that his son Hunter will receive for his federal felony conviction on gun crimes.

apnews.com

You know, I remember Trump offering a bunch of corrupt pardons to his henchmen before he left office. What I DON’T remember is the press badgering Trump about any of them. Yet they have basically badgered Biden about a hypothetical here.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Federal officials charged and arrested a man who threatened an FBI agent involved with the Hunter Biden investigation, with the suspect texting the agent and asking him if his family was safe, according to a federal complaint filed Thursday.


The complaint states that Timothy Muller, a 43-year-old who resides in Texas, left threatening texts and a voice mail on the agent’s government-issued phone hours after a jury in Delaware delivered a guilty verdict to the president’s son on three federal gun charges.

Muller, according to the federal document, threatened to kidnap and kill the agent, saying that the agent had covered up child pornography on Hunter Biden’s laptop.


“You can run, but you can’t [expletive] hide,” Muller allegedly said……

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/06/13/texas-man-threatens-fbi-agent-hunter-case/

 

[fooferdoggie]

ng to the federal document, threatened to kidnap and kill the agent, saying that the agent had covered up child pornography on Hunter Biden’s laptop.

trump truly brings out the stupidity in people. How much you wanna bet this guy has issues with children?

 

[DaveXA]

trump truly brings out the stupidity in people. How much you wanna bet this guy has issues with children?

No idea, but he's a moron regardless.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Guess this can go here

Interesting article
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Jill Biden entered the Delaware courthouse just after Hunter Biden’s guilty verdict was announced on Tuesday morning. In video footage, she can be seen walking quickly and purposefully, eyes ahead.

When she emerged a short while later, it was with the newly convicted Hunter. On his left, he clasped hands with his wife, Melissa.

On his right, he clasped hands with his — now, how should we refer to Jill?


It is, apparently, a complicated question for some people. Last week, I wrote a column that got a lot of reader feedback, and not in the way I’d expected.

The column was about Hunter Biden’s trial, and in it I had briefly referred to Jill Biden as Hunter’s mother. She wasn’t, readers informed me; I had gotten it wrong.


The simplest reading is that those readers were correct. Jill Biden is not Hunter’s biological mother.

His biological mom, Neilia, died in the same car accident that killed Hunter’s younger sister and seriously wounded Hunter and his brother, Beau, when Hunter was only 2. Jill began dating his father a few years after that and married him when Hunter was 7. Ergo, she is Hunter’s stepmother.


The thing is, I knew all of that when I referred to Jill Biden as Hunter’s mother. It wasn’t an unthinking error. It was a choice, based on other things I knew.

I knew, for example, when, during the investigation into Hunter’s gun purchase, Jill Biden in 2022 told reporters, “I’m his mom,” and, “I love my son.”

I knew that in Joe Biden’s 2007 memoir, he recalled an incident in which a magazine fact-checker called him, confused. The fact-checker had asked young Beau and Hunter questions about their “stepmother,” but the boys had responded that they didn’t have a stepmother.

“Neilia would always be Mommy,” Joe writes, “but Jill was Mom.”


She was the one, he wrote, who showed up at the boys’ school to volunteer at concession stands or the library, while Senate votes kept Joe in Washington late into the night. She was the one to cook for the boys, wash their clothes, drive them to sports practices, take them home……

At the risk of pointing out the obvious: Jill Biden, in this telling, is not merely a woman bound to Hunter via the legality of his father’s marriage. She is the woman whose presence signified that the family was going to survive.


None of this mattered to some of the readers who emailed me, disagreeing with my use of “mother” even after I laid out the points above. Some of them were simply sticklers, concerned with factual accuracy. “Did Jill legally adopt him?” one man asked.

Some of them seemed weighed down by their own experiences with their own blended families. But for others, the question was about something bigger than semantics. It was about the experiences that shape us and the wounds that never heal…….

https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/power/2024/06/12/jill-biden-hunter-biden-mother-son/

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Guess this can go here

Interesting article
==============

Jill Biden entered the Delaware courthouse just after Hunter Biden’s guilty verdict was announced on Tuesday morning. In video footage, she can be seen walking quickly and purposefully, eyes ahead.

When she emerged a short while later, it was with the newly convicted Hunter. On his left, he clasped hands with his wife, Melissa.

On his right, he clasped hands with his — now, how should we refer to Jill?


It is, apparently, a complicated question for some people. Last week, I wrote a column that got a lot of reader feedback, and not in the way I’d expected.

The column was about Hunter Biden’s trial, and in it I had briefly referred to Jill Biden as Hunter’s mother. She wasn’t, readers informed me; I had gotten it wrong.


The simplest reading is that those readers were correct. Jill Biden is not Hunter’s biological mother.

His biological mom, Neilia, died in the same car accident that killed Hunter’s younger sister and seriously wounded Hunter and his brother, Beau, when Hunter was only 2. Jill began dating his father a few years after that and married him when Hunter was 7. Ergo, she is Hunter’s stepmother.


The thing is, I knew all of that when I referred to Jill Biden as Hunter’s mother. It wasn’t an unthinking error. It was a choice, based on other things I knew.

I knew, for example, when, during the investigation into Hunter’s gun purchase, Jill Biden in 2022 told reporters, “I’m his mom,” and, “I love my son.”

I knew that in Joe Biden’s 2007 memoir, he recalled an incident in which a magazine fact-checker called him, confused. The fact-checker had asked young Beau and Hunter questions about their “stepmother,” but the boys had responded that they didn’t have a stepmother.

“Neilia would always be Mommy,” Joe writes, “but Jill was Mom.”


She was the one, he wrote, who showed up at the boys’ school to volunteer at concession stands or the library, while Senate votes kept Joe in Washington late into the night. She was the one to cook for the boys, wash their clothes, drive them to sports practices, take them home……

At the risk of pointing out the obvious: Jill Biden, in this telling, is not merely a woman bound to Hunter via the legality of his father’s marriage. She is the woman whose presence signified that the family was going to survive.


None of this mattered to some of the readers who emailed me, disagreeing with my use of “mother” even after I laid out the points above. Some of them were simply sticklers, concerned with factual accuracy. “Did Jill legally adopt him?” one man asked.

Some of them seemed weighed down by their own experiences with their own blended families. But for others, the question was about something bigger than semantics. It was about the experiences that shape us and the wounds that never heal…….

https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/power/2024/06/12/jill-biden-hunter-biden-mother-son/

I know that I shouldn't be, but I am genuinely surprised that THIS is a thing!

 

[Optimus Prime]

I know that I shouldn't be, but I am genuinely surprised that THIS is a thing!

Apparently the right wing made a big deal about this online

Because she wasn’t his “real” mother she couldn’t possibly be attending Hunter’s trial because she loved him at all so therefore she was there instead to……something nefarious

 

[DaveXA]

Guess this can go here

Interesting article
==============

Jill Biden entered the Delaware courthouse just after Hunter Biden’s guilty verdict was announced on Tuesday morning. In video footage, she can be seen walking quickly and purposefully, eyes ahead.

When she emerged a short while later, it was with the newly convicted Hunter. On his left, he clasped hands with his wife, Melissa.

On his right, he clasped hands with his — now, how should we refer to Jill?


It is, apparently, a complicated question for some people. Last week, I wrote a column that got a lot of reader feedback, and not in the way I’d expected.

The column was about Hunter Biden’s trial, and in it I had briefly referred to Jill Biden as Hunter’s mother. She wasn’t, readers informed me; I had gotten it wrong.


The simplest reading is that those readers were correct. Jill Biden is not Hunter’s biological mother.

His biological mom, Neilia, died in the same car accident that killed Hunter’s younger sister and seriously wounded Hunter and his brother, Beau, when Hunter was only 2. Jill began dating his father a few years after that and married him when Hunter was 7. Ergo, she is Hunter’s stepmother.


The thing is, I knew all of that when I referred to Jill Biden as Hunter’s mother. It wasn’t an unthinking error. It was a choice, based on other things I knew.

I knew, for example, when, during the investigation into Hunter’s gun purchase, Jill Biden in 2022 told reporters, “I’m his mom,” and, “I love my son.”

I knew that in Joe Biden’s 2007 memoir, he recalled an incident in which a magazine fact-checker called him, confused. The fact-checker had asked young Beau and Hunter questions about their “stepmother,” but the boys had responded that they didn’t have a stepmother.

“Neilia would always be Mommy,” Joe writes, “but Jill was Mom.”


She was the one, he wrote, who showed up at the boys’ school to volunteer at concession stands or the library, while Senate votes kept Joe in Washington late into the night. She was the one to cook for the boys, wash their clothes, drive them to sports practices, take them home……

At the risk of pointing out the obvious: Jill Biden, in this telling, is not merely a woman bound to Hunter via the legality of his father’s marriage. She is the woman whose presence signified that the family was going to survive.


None of this mattered to some of the readers who emailed me, disagreeing with my use of “mother” even after I laid out the points above. Some of them were simply sticklers, concerned with factual accuracy. “Did Jill legally adopt him?” one man asked.

Some of them seemed weighed down by their own experiences with their own blended families. But for others, the question was about something bigger than semantics. It was about the experiences that shape us and the wounds that never heal…….

https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/power/2024/06/12/jill-biden-hunter-biden-mother-son/

Some people are simply stupid. I wonder how they managed to survive school.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Apparently the right wing made a big deal about this online

Because she wasn’t his “real” mother she couldn’t possibly be attending Hunter’s trial because she loved him at all so therefore she was there instead to……something nefarious

Truly pathetic.

 

[MT15]

Apparently the right wing made a big deal about this online

Because she wasn’t his “real” mother she couldn’t possibly be attending Hunter’s trial because she loved him at all so therefore she was there instead to……something nefarious

Yes, that horrible person on Fox, whose name blissfully escapes me at the moment, said Jill attended the trial in an attempt to “intimidate” the jury, like a mob family would do. These people are sick in the head. Truly.

Edit: it was Ingraham. A pox on her house.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Yes, that horrible person on Fox, whose name blissfully escapes me at the moment, said Jill attended the trial in an attempt to “intimidate” the jury, like a mob family would do. These people are sick in the head. Truly.

Edit: it was Ingraham. A pox on her house.

“A pox upon ye n’ yourn”

Made @MT15 bust out the medieval insults

 

[SFIDC3]

Yes, that horrible person on Fox, whose name blissfully escapes me at the moment, said Jill attended the trial in an attempt to “intimidate” the jury, like a mob family would do. These people are sick in the head. Truly.

Edit: it was Ingraham. A pox on her house.

It’s straight out of their playbook, accuse others of what you are doing….