How Low Will the Democratic Party go Re: Bernie (2 Viewers)

[Beach Friends]

Last week Elizabeth Warren, who may have the worst political instincts of anyone in the race, tried to derail the Sanders' campaign by claiming he told her a woman could not be elected president. From what I can tell, this backfired on Warren as frequently happens with her stunts.

Not only did it hurt her, it also exposed her co-conspritator CNN. It's not exactly breaking news, but the CNN propaganda machine is not fit to host a political debate.

This week, Bernie took a clip from one of Joe Rogan's podcasts and used it to promote his campaign. It wasn't exactly an endorsement, but Joe said he will probably vote for Bernie and that he is impressed that Bernie has been consistent.

Of course, when you live on the left you are always run the risk of offending your fellow progressives and sure enough some people started losing their minds claiming that Rogan is not only "right wing" but also transphobic.

Many of Bernie's followers believe, with good reason, that the DNC was less than fair to Bernie last year. Despite the fact Bernie campaigned for the Hillary, a significant percentage of Bernie's supporters decided not to vote for Hillary. There are rumblings that his supporters will be even less likely to vote for a Democratic nominee not named Bernie.

Hillary has been acting like Hillary, badmouthing the man who campaigned for her in 2016. There are rumors that Obama may speak out against Bernie.

Sounds like troubled waters are ahead for the Democratic party as Bernie's campaign continues to pick up steam.

 

[samiam5211]

The poll numbers between Sanders and Biden by age groups are pretty remarkable.



There are currently around 75 million Americans between 18-34 and around 50 million Americans over 65. Maybe the young people will turn out in high enough numbers to finally matter this year and maybe not (they're certainly not going to turn out for Joe freaking Biden in a general election). But the times, they are a changing.

The 18-34 year old group has more people than votes any presidential candidate has ever received, and more than the entire vote total for any election before 1976.

Turnout is pathetic.

 

[bdb13]

The poll numbers between Sanders and Biden by age groups are pretty remarkable.



There are currently around 75 million Americans between 18-34 and around 50 million Americans over 65. Maybe the young people will turn out in high enough numbers to finally matter this year and maybe not (they're certainly not going to turn out for Joe freaking Biden in a general election). But the times, they are a changing.

My fiance and I, both 31, came into this election season fully intending to vote for Biden. It wasn't even a question for either of us: we were absolutely voting for Biden. And then we saw him out there and like most everyone else realized that he's legit lost it.

So now we're rolling with Bernie, more or less by default. Hell, she said the other day that if Biden is the nominee she may not even vote at all (eh, I'll get her to vote).

But yeah, that's going to be the biggest difficulty in defeating Trump. Republicans are going to show up for him and I'm unconvinced that Democrats will rally enough around Biden or Bernie to actually win. On top of that, I'm pretty concerned that independents will stay away from Bernie, especially after Trump and the Republicans throw the kitchen sink at him if and when he becomes the nominee.

But I guess we'll see.

 

[JimEverett]

I haven't heard that at all.

The only candidate I heard that had a 'race problem' was Mayor Pete.

And I think interestingly enough, people who support Pete, then jumped to Warren.. not Biden or Sanders.

Like I said, I am sure I have not followed the race like many of you. But here are some examples of what I am talking about. Don't think it is as bad as 4 years ago, but it seems like it is still there.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In a city that’s nearly half black in the most diverse of the early primary states, this isn’t what I’d expect the crowd to look like <a href="https://t.co/FfFfeRRWcJ">https://t.co/FfFfeRRWcJ</a></p>&mdash; Errin Haines (@emarvelous) <a href="">March 15, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

From: https://www.postandcourier.com/poli...cle_851b29d6-471e-11e9-bc24-7f7b68686e53.html

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This crowd at Bernie Sanders’ Brooklyn rally is almost as a white as any Trump crowd, but significantly more male than any crowd at a Trump rally. The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BernieInBrooklyn?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#BernieInBrooklyn</a> crowd appears about 85-90% white and male. <a href="https://t.co/dNJxpSNOsA">pic.twitter.com/dNJxpSNOsA</a></p>&mdash; Ashton Pittman (@ashtonpittman) <a href="">March 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/04/26/why-women-color-booed-bernie-sanders-recent-speech/