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Last week Elizabeth Warren, who may have the worst political instincts of anyone in the race, tried to derail the Sanders' campaign by claiming he told her a woman could not be elected president. From what I can tell, this backfired on Warren as frequently happens with her stunts.

Not only did it hurt her, it also exposed her co-conspritator CNN. It's not exactly breaking news, but the CNN propaganda machine is not fit to host a political debate.

This week, Bernie took a clip from one of Joe Rogan's podcasts and used it to promote his campaign. It wasn't exactly an endorsement, but Joe said he will probably vote for Bernie and that he is impressed that Bernie has been consistent.

Of course, when you live on the left you are always run the risk of offending your fellow progressives and sure enough some people started losing their minds claiming that Rogan is not only "right wing" but also transphobic.

Many of Bernie's followers believe, with good reason, that the DNC was less than fair to Bernie last year. Despite the fact Bernie campaigned for the Hillary, a significant percentage of Bernie's supporters decided not to vote for Hillary. There are rumblings that his supporters will be even less likely to vote for a Democratic nominee not named Bernie.

Hillary has been acting like Hillary, badmouthing the man who campaigned for her in 2016. There are rumors that Obama may speak out against Bernie.

Sounds like troubled waters are ahead for the Democratic party as Bernie's campaign continues to pick up steam.
 
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Actually, those are questions being raised by progressives. I just thought people here might have some input.
 

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Actually, those are questions being raised by progressives. I just thought people here might have some input.
Those questions may be raised by some progressives, but it's even more near and dear to the hearts of your clan. You want division in the Democratic ranks to depress turnout if Bernie isn't the nominee, and Trump gets re-elected. If Bernie is the nominee, y'all yell "Socialist!" until the cows come home, and Trump gets re-elected.

You want either of those things. I seriously doubt you care anything about input from progressives, other than the joy of creating a thread where the libs can fight each other. No thanks.
 
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Those questions may be raised by some progressives, but it's even more near and dear to the hearts of your clan. You want division in the Democratic ranks to depress turnout if Bernie isn't the nominee, and Trump gets re-elected. If Bernie is the nominee, y'all yell "Socialist!" until the cows come home, and Trump gets re-elected.

You want either of those things. I seriously doubt you care anything about input from progressives, other than the joy of creating a thread where the libs can fight each other. No thanks.
Well, it's not as though I was expecting insight from you specifically.
 

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The idea that it is just BeachFriends or just non-Democrats that are or will be raising this issue is absurd. It is clearly a potential problem and will be if and when Bernie starts winning a lot of primaries and caucuses.
 
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Enjoy your thread.

Well, thanks for stopping by and bumping the thread. Here is a clip that discusses the makeup of DNC committees you might enjoy:

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A recent segment from The Hill discussing how the Democrat party will destroy itself if it robs Sanders:
 

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That Bernie is leading the race says volumes about the democrats. Trump is probably the most vulnerable incumbent in decades and they can't find one actual capitalist democrat to rally the party behind?
 
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That Bernie is leading the race says volumes about the democrats. Trump is probably the most vulnerable incumbent in decades and they can't find one actual capitalist democrat to rally the party behind?
Their other leading candidate isn't going to make it due to anger issues:

 

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That Bernie is leading the race says volumes about the democrats. Trump is probably the most vulnerable incumbent in decades and they can't find one actual capitalist democrat to rally the party behind?

What is a capitalist?

Does a capitalist believe in programs like social security or a government funded military?

Neither of those are capitalist programs. Our economy is a combination of socialism and capitalism, just like China's economy is a combination of communism and capitalism.

There is no such thing as a pure economy. These labels are just used to discredit people.
 

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This reminds me a lot of 2016 when the RNC Establishment was losing its mind over Trump. The one candidate with A: An ounce of charisma who B: is running on an anti-corporatist platform gets ganged-up on.
I hope it turns out in similar fashion and the DNC Establishment learns the lesson. "WE DON'T LIKE YOU!" Shouted loud and clear from an angry, disillusioned populace.
 

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The idea that it is just BeachFriends or just non-Democrats that are or will be raising this issue is absurd. It is clearly a potential problem and will be if and when Bernie starts winning a lot of primaries and caucuses.
It's true. And it's problematic that anyone sees it as 'conspiracy' when it's so abundantly clear. It shouldn't be hard for people to admit that the establishment outlets will start flipping out when another 'outsider' to what is considered normal is most popular with the people.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ch...bs5aqplmd55vj7v357a-story.html?outputType=amp
 

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What is a capitalist?

Does a capitalist believe in programs like social security or a government funded military?

Neither of those are capitalist programs. Our economy is a combination of socialism and capitalism, just like China's economy is a combination of communism and capitalism.

There is no such thing as a pure economy. These labels are just used to discredit people.
The problem is that Sanders wants more socialism than capitalism. You only need to listen to his campaign rallies to know that.

Social Security is already a poorly designed program that is falling apart under the weight of it's own ill conception.
People want the opportunity to invest their own money without it being conscripted by social security taxes, but the program is now dependent on those people paying into the plan because there is no money to pay out those who already paid money into it while they were working. It's classic robbing peter to pay paul.

Sanders is wholly anit-capitalist. Hell he used to float the idea of a maximum wage. https://www.theatlantic.com/busines...-think-there-should-be-a-maximum-wage/416790/
 
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This is beginning to shape up so much like Trump last cycle with mainstream Republicans trying to end his campaign once they finally realize that he was a serious threat.
 

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All are viable questions. This fear that Trump will win because there is infighting in the Democratic party should put more focus on the state of that party, not "please everyone get in line and be civil and don't bash each other so we don't lose to Trump". That kid gloves mentality is how you don't differentiate yourself vs the competition. It's how you lose IMO. Focusing on the root of the problem would serve the Democrats well here. Why is there growing unrest and dissatisfaction within the party? Why are these 'far left' as the media says candidates rapidly growing in popularity?

I've said it before, but 2016 (Bernie/Hillary debacle) wasn't some isolated incident. It was a preview of what was to come. Growing pains from a changing party. I'm not saying the DNC will pull some last second hackery again, but i wouldn't put it past them.
 

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