Here come the Hillary e-mails again... (1 Viewer)

[SystemShock]

President Donald Trump's administration is investigating the emails of dozens of current and former senior State Department officials who sent emails to then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's private email, The Washington Post reported.

When is it going to end?

 

[yuyi64]

Hillary only panders to leftists because she wants their vote. In reality she's nothing more than a dishonest, unethical, opportunistic hypocrite who doesn't give a hoot about left, center, or right. Most tax-paying working-class moderate and conservative voters can see through her charade and will not vote for her, hence the 2016 election of Donald Trump. If the Dems nominate someone like her in 2020, those same voters will either not vote for President or vote for Donald Trump again.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Hillary only panders to leftists because she wants their vote. In reality she's nothing more than a dishonest, unethical, opportunistic hypocrite who doesn't give a hoot about left, center, or right. Most tax-paying working-class moderate and conservative voters can see through her charade and will not vote for her, hence the 2016 election of Donald Trump. If the Dems nominate someone like her in 2020, those same voters will either not vote for President or vote for Donald Trump again.

Ok, so instead of voting for a woman they believe is a dishonest, unethical, opportunistic hypocrite who doesn't give a hoot about left, center, or right, most tax-paying working-class moderate and conservative voters chose to vote for a man that is all of the above? You are also saying that they would chose to do so again even though he has shown himself to be completely corrupt?

 

[yuyi64]

Yes, most of those moderate/conservative voters that voted for Trump in 2016 saw him as the lesser of two evils and will vote again for someone who's not going to be digging in their wallet no matter how corrupt that person may be. Never underestimate the power of voting for one's financial interest when it comes to choosing between corrupt politicians.

 

[V Chip]

Oh but it does. Just like the Falcons squandered away a 28-3 lead, the Democratic party has squandered the opportunity to be the party of reasonable people in order to become the party of left-wing nutjobs.

It's always funny to me to hear right-wing people label the Democratic Party as left-wing or too liberal. I'm a proud liberal, and the Democratic party is definitely *not* liberal -- they're too far right and corporatist for a pretty liberal guy like me (but not "left-wing nutjob" liberal -- yet).

 

[Saintamaniac]

The Republicans nominating Donald Trump in 2016. You had the chance to become the party for middle America and you blew it big time!

So that would mean that the Putin and Russia were the refs who decided to put their finger on the outcome of the contest to ensure the outcome. That would make the Republican controlled Senate the replay booth in New York.

 

[yuyi64]

So that would mean that the Putin and Russia were the refs who decided to put their finger on the outcome of the contest to ensure the outcome. That would make the Republican controlled Senate the replay booth in New York.

No that would make the Democrats Bill Vinonich: someone who obviously had the chance to correct a wrong by nominating a candidate other than a shyster and giving Americans a real choice, and instead chose to look the other way and give the election away. And we know what happened to the Rams (Dems) when they got to the Big Game!

 

[crosswatt]

Oh but it does. Just like the Falcons squandered away a 28-3 lead, the Democratic party has squandered the opportunity to be the party of reasonable people in order to become the party of left-wing nutjobs.

I think Pete Buttigieg made a great point about this in one of the earlier debates:

"It is time to stop worrying about what the Republicans will say. If we embrace a far-left agenda, they're going to say we're a bunch of crazy socialists. If we embrace a conservative agenda, you know what they're going to do? They're going to say we're a bunch of crazy socialists," Buttigieg said, earning applause from those in attendance.
"So," he continued, "let's just stand up for the right policy, go out there and defend it."

And I'm seeing it manifest already. An ad campaign against a state senate candidate pants her as "too liberal for Virginia". I am not on board with all of her policy positions, but she's not some wacko leftist agenda driven activist. She's a typical worried mom who wants to stop flooding (which happens quite a bit in her district) and make schools safer. But it's easier to demonize and generalize than to actually debate the finer points of our respective platforms, so she's painted as an enemy. And it's intellectually offensive to me, and I ain't even that smart.

 

[MT15]

So, it turns out that Clinton is making the rounds because she and her daughter wrote a new book about women who have inspired them. Nothing more sinister than that. Of course she is asked about the current impeachment inquiry and she answers those questions. What a diabolical plot she has!

 

[Dadsdream]

So, it turns out that Clinton is making the rounds because she and her daughter wrote a new book about women who have inspired them. Nothing more sinister than that. Of course she is asked about the current impeachment inquiry and she answers those questions. What a diabolical plot she has!

Calling the current Commander-in-Chief an "illegitimate president" is about going on a book tour and simply answering the questions she's being asked?
Sorry, I don't buy that.
I think it's about sour grapes and trying to inject her opinions into the election and inject the voters with a dose of bitterness and resentment, while trying to keep her foot in the door and remain relevant.
It's certainly not about binding the nation's wounds and bringing us together.

 

[samiam5211]

Calling the current Commander-in-Chief an "illegitimate president" is about going on a book tour and simply answering the questions she's being asked?
Sorry, I don't buy that.
I think it's about sour grapes and trying to inject her opinions into the election and inject the voters with a dose of bitterness and resentment, while trying to keep her foot in the door and remain relevant.
It's certainly not about binding the nation's wounds and bringing us together.

Trump is illegitimate. If Hitler says the falcons suck, it doesn't mean they don't suck.

Hillary can say whatever she wants. Paying attention to her is a choice. Republicans seem to love blaming her for Trump because they don't want to take responsibility for the person they voted for.

 

[Dadsdream]

Trump is illegitimate.

How so?

 

[samiam5211]

How so?

He won because of Russian interference. He has continued to use the office for personal gain.

Hillary was a terrible candidate, but Trump won because he cheated.

 

[Dadsdream]

He won because of Russian interference. He has continued to use the office for personal gain.

Hillary was a terrible candidate, but Trump won because he cheated.

I see. That's your opinion. I respect that.

I disagree. Hillary was a deeply flawed candidate and her nomination was a tactical error. That's my opinion.

 

[samiam5211]

Hillary was a deeply flawed candidate and her nomination was a tactical error. That's my opinion.

I completely agree with you about Hillary.

It is entirely possible that Hillary was a pathetic nominee and that Trump cheated.

 

[yuyi64]

So, it turns out that Clinton is making the rounds because she and her daughter wrote a new book about women who have inspired them.

That must be the tiniest book ever since the only things that inspire Hillary are Greed, Power, and Personal Gain.

 

[MT15]

Is this where I make a snarky response back about Clinton Derangement Syndrome? Just trying to fit in with you all.

 

[yuyi64]

Is this where I make a snarky response back about Clinton Derangement Syndrome? Just trying to fit in with you all.

Go ahead, we're used to your snarky remarks by now.

 

[JRad]

Hillary only panders to leftists because she wants their vote. In reality she's nothing more than a dishonest, unethical, opportunistic hypocrite who doesn't give a hoot about left, center, or right. Most tax-paying working-class moderate and conservative voters can see through her charade and will not vote for her, hence the 2016 election of Donald Trump. If the Dems nominate someone like her in 2020, those same voters will either not vote for President or vote for Donald Trump again.

I don’t know why she’d be pandering now, she’s not even running for anything. Really, no one seems to care more about Hillary Clinton than Trump voters. They can’t stop invoking her name, but she isn’t even on “the leftists” radar anymore. It's a really weird obsession.