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[Lazybones]

McCloskeys served with search warrant, police take rifle shown in viral pictures

Sources told 5 On Your Side police seized one of the weapons, the rifle, from the couple and they told police their attorney has the pistol seen in photos.

www.ksdk.com

The police were called on the people who were protecting their property from people who broke into their neighborhood protesting the police. Who needs to repeal the 2nd amendment when you have rogue Da’s to do the work for you.

 

[MT15]

I know how much y’all like snopes

Did Mark McCloskey Donate to Democrats?

After the couple pointed guns at protesters, rumors started to circulate about the McCloskeys' political affiliations.

www.snopes.com

it might be helpful to post what snopes actually says:

What's True
Over the past 20 years, Mark McCloskey has made political contributions to both Democratic and Republican political campaigns. Between 2004 and 2012, FEC records show he donated to Democratic candidates, and more recently McCloskey has donated to a few Democrats on the local level.
What's False
However, the majority of McCloskey's political donations since 2012 have gone to Republicans, including many contributions to U.S. President Donald Trump's 2016 campaign.

so, it’s actually not honest to paint them as Democratic Obama supporters, you should do better than that or what you are posting looks like trolling.

 

[MT15]

plenty of laws for vandalism, breaking and entering etc.....yet she chose to pursue this couple.

Who is saying she is ONLY prosecuting this couple? you act like there can only be one case at a time.

You know, I don’t mind having a serious conversation about this issue. But what would be nice would be a discussion based on facts, rather than partisan claims. We aren’t having that so far, just a rant from LB basically.

 

[MT15]

I think the article doesn't give a lot of context because right now, there is no context other than a political activist is a DA and stuff....
Were the weapons used? Is brandishing a weapon using the weapon? Honestly don't know.

What I do know is that they will win in court and they will sue the city and county and state and will probably be able to buy the whole private street they live on and put up a fence that can't be taken down by rioters.

So, there were no rioters on that street. They didn’t take down a fence. They opened a gate and walked through it. The next day the gate was shown to be damaged, but it is unclear how the gate got damaged or who damaged it. As vindictive as that couple is, I think you have to consider that they went out and damaged it later themselves to make their claims seem more reasonable.

Do we even know if brandishing a weapon is a crime in MO? I read that it is. So maybe the prosecutor isn’t an “activist” whatever that means.

 

[Lazybones]

Who is saying she is ONLY prosecuting this couple? you act like there can only be one case at a time.

You know, I don’t mind having a serious conversation about this issue. But what would be nice would be a discussion based on facts, rather than partisan claims. We aren’t having that so far, just a rant from LB basically.

Please site the cases that she is pursuing if protesters turned rioters.

you seem to be making up scenarios to fit your agenda.

as I stated, I’m not sure of the violence of these protesters. However when protestors have been held up as heroes by liberal governments and media, it is reasonable to think that if this particular mob who broke down/into a private neighborhood could/would also beat up white people or burn their property.

 

[MT15]

Here’s a WaPo story. No charges have been filed, it’s just an investigation after complaints were received about the couple brandishing their weapons at people who were walking along the street.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/15/trump-st-louis-mccloskeys/

 

[Lazybones]

Here’s a WaPo story. No charges have been filed, it’s just an investigation after complaints were received about the couple brandishing their weapons at people who were walking along the street.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/15/trump-st-louis-mccloskeys/

great description. you make it sound like a couple of innocent people were strolling down the sidewalk when BAM, 2 crazy white people start waving guns for no reason.

you must be being influenced by the non partisan authors at CNN.com

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Please site the cases that she is pursuing if protesters turned rioters.

you seem to be making up scenarios to fit your agenda.

as I stated, I’m not sure of the violence of these protesters. However when protestors have been held up as heroes by liberal governments and media, it is reasonable to think that if this particular mob who broke down/into a private neighborhood could/would also beat up white people or burn their property.

Can you show them breaking down the gate? I ask this because I can show them calmly walking through an intact gate.

 

[Lazybones]

Can you show them breaking down the gate? I ask this because I can show them calmly walking through an intact gate.

It doesn’t matter if it were dents floss. It’s private property.

 

[MT15]

great description. you make it sound like a couple of innocent people were strolling down the sidewalk when BAM, 2 crazy white people start waving guns for no reason.

you must be being influenced by the non partisan authors at CNN.com

Please site the cases that she is pursuing if protesters turned rioters.

you seem to be making up scenarios to fit your agenda.

as I stated, I’m not sure of the violence of these protesters. However when protestors have been held up as heroes by liberal governments and media, it is reasonable to think that if this particular mob who broke down/into a private neighborhood could/would also beat up white people or burn their property.

LB, you’re the one making up scenarios to fit your agenda. I don’t have to prove what cases are being prosecuted in St. Louis because you are the one saying she was ignoring other cases to pursue this one.

 

[Lazybones]

She is ignoring the rioters and their vandalism. If I show that to you, will you apologize for being a straight line partisan?

 

[MT15]

We’ve already debunked your claim that they vandalized the gate. They were not rioters, you can say it all you want that doesn’t make it true. I don‘t have any more time for this troll thread, LB.

If you wanted a serious discussion, there is one to be had, but you don’t want that. You have done nothing but troll in this thread.

 

[Lazybones]

We’ve already debunked your claim that they vandalized the gate. They were not rioters, you can say it all you want that doesn’t make it true. I don‘t have any more time for this troll thread, LB.

If you wanted a serious discussion, there is one to be had, but you don’t want that. You have done nothing but troll in this thread.

Soros-backed St. Louis Prosecutor Ensures All Arrested Looters and Rioters Released From Jail

'every single one of the St. Louis looters and rioters arrested were released back onto the streets by local prosecutor Kim Gardner'

legalinsurrection.com

 

[cuddlemonkey]

It doesn’t matter if it were dents floss. It’s private property.

I'll go ahead and translate: You were wrong, you made shirt up, and now that you've been called out you are saying it didn't matter in the first place.

 

[Lazybones]

I'll go ahead and translate: You were wrong, you made shirt up, and now that you've been called out you are saying it didn't matter in the first place.

wrong about what? Them breaking down the gate? Did the gate magically open itself? Funny you purposely dismiss the entire point of the posting. But that’s ok. It’s kind of the thing around here.

 

[dtc]

they ain’t decided yet, what a lazy retort

the protesters broke down a PRIVATE security gate.

Similar protesters burned downed , buildings, historical sites etc.

similar protesters vandalized cars, beat up white people and trashed private property.

I only say similar, because I don’t have a list of names from each of the participants in said protest.

funny how NONE of you recognize this. Yak about partisan glasses

Self defense requires reasonable proportionality in most states and even where there are castle doctrine and stand your ground laws, breaking a gate or jumping a fence does not rise to the level of threat necessary to cause one to have imminent fear of death or great bodily harm.

Absent those conditions, what that couple did could be considered menacing which is in many cases a felony. Brandishing a firearm is another crime in most jurisdictions and while there is no excuse for breaking a wall or trespassing, there is no legal rationale for the blatant threats of death made by the couple.

The history of BLM protests becoming violent in no way excuses the laws this couple broke.

They should have stayed inside with the doors locked and waited for police armed to the teeth if they so pleased, but they chose to engage and threaten. As such, they're guilty of some sort of crime in every jurisdiction and should be punished although that in no way excuses a crime committed by any others and particularly not the protestors who broke the gate.

Simply put, I pee on your front door and it's illegal. You can call the cop and have them bust me for indecent exposure or public whatever, but you can't shoot me or brandish a weapon and threaten to.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

wrong about what? Them breaking down the gate? Did the gate magically open itself?

Seems that protesters have mastered the use of their hands.

 

[Lazybones]

Self defense requires reasonable proportionality in most states and even where there are castle doctrine and stand your ground laws, breaking a gate or jumping a fence does not rise to the level of threat necessary to cause one to have imminent fear of death or great bodily harm.

Absent those conditions, what that couple did could be considered menacing which is in many cases a felony. Brandishing a firearm is another crime in most jurisdictions and while there is no excuse for breaking a wall or trespassing, there is no legal rationale for the blatant threats of death made by the couple.

The history of BLM protests becoming violent in no way excuses the laws this couple broke.

They should have stayed inside with the doors locked and waited for police armed to the teeth if they so pleased, but they chose to engage and threaten. As such, they're guilty of some sort of crime in every jurisdiction and should be punished although that in no way excuses a crime committed by any others and particularly not the protestors who broke the gate.

Simply put, I pee on your front door and it's illegal. You can call the cop and have them bust me for indecent exposure or public whatever, but you can't shoot me or brandish a weapon and threaten to.

What about 100 people with a propensity for violence and property damage? Big difference in a teen ager jumping the fende to get to the next yard and 100 incels who act as if the law does t matter.

However, where I live they would have had a warning shot at their feet as soon as they stepped through my gate.

 

[Lazybones]

Seems that protesters have mastered the use of their hands.

I’m not sure what that shows. Either way Cut it they were trespassing.