General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump (5 Viewers)

[SamAndreas]

Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/live-updates-harris-democrats-biden-drops-out-trump-campaign.html

She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.

 

[Saint by the Bay]

Diversity = blue no diversity = red. There's no diversity in rural America.

It's not really hard and has absolutely nothing to do with the Bible. I spend a lot of time in rural America and moral isn't a word I'd use to describe it.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

So again, I'd like @SteveSBrickNJ to say what exactly that fact means to him because that red/blue on a map would certainly look overwhelming

"That fact"?

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Let’s not forget: Jesus was a brown-eyed refugee baby fleeing persecution. In today’s Trump-dominated world, many of his followers would cheer if he drowned on barbed wire during that flight.

Jesus preached love and acceptance—not just for his followers, but for everyone. Yet, many Trump supporters seem willing to hate and attack anyone who doesn’t live like them. They turn a blind eye to racists, rapists, and frauds like Trump, who acts solely in his own self-interest.

Have they forgotten these words?

*"For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,
I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

“He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”*

Most MAGA supporters are Christians in name only (CINOs). They spread hate where Jesus preached love and acceptance.

So Jesus loves everyone and wants all to invite him and accept him as their savior. God has not changed though. In the beginning He created 2 genders and wants everyone to accept that. God is not woke. ....and of lesser importance, Steve is not MAGA.

 

[Dragon]

So Jesus loves everyone and wants all to invite him and accept him as their savior. God has not changed though. In the beginning He created 2 genders and wants everyone to accept that. God is not woke. ....and of lesser importance, Steve is not MAGA.

As far as I know, Jesus never spoke a single word about gender or sexual orientation. Let’s also not forget the Old Testament, which includes passages like the one about David, who loved Jonathan more deeply than anyone else.

And then there’s this: “Let those without sin cast the first stone.” What right do you have to judge others for living differently—especially when they’re harming no one?

Jesus preached compassion, understanding, and humility. Judging others for their choices is not living by his example; it’s living in opposition to it.

 

[Optimus Prime]

"That fact"?

Yes Steve, that fact

The number of votes cast in LA County is a hard number also known as a fact

The state populations are also known and are also hard numbers and are also known as facts

So taking those numbers and making the statement "LA County cast more votes than the populations of 20 states" is either an easily verified fact or easily proven lie

I believe that is a fact

Are you saying you believe it is a lie? If so, why?

And if you concede that the numbers are accurate, what do you make of the FACT about those numbers or how they would look represented on a map?

I never understood this obsession over the map

It's very possible that a single big city high rise has more people than dozens/hundreds of acres of rural America

 

[coldseat]

So Jesus loves everyone and wants all to invite him and accept him as their savior. God has not changed though. In the beginning He created 2 genders and wants everyone to accept that. God is not woke. ....and of lesser importance, Steve is not MAGA.

Lol. Jesus is the very definition of "woke" for the time in which he lived.

It's 2,000 years later, but if he lived today Jesus would be a homeless, transgendered, illegal immigrant that still preached about God. "Woke" oozed out of Jesus' pores.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Yes Steve, that fact

The number of votes cast in LA County is a hard number also known as a fact

The state populations are also known and are also hard numbers and are also known as facts

So taking those numbers and making the statement "LA County cast more votes than the populations of 20 states" is either an easily verified fact or easily proven lie

I believe that is a fact

Are you saying you believe it is a lie? If so, why?

And if you concede that the numbers are accurate, what do you make of the FACT about those numbers or how they would look represented on a map?

I never understood this obsession over the map

It's very possible that a single big city high rise has more people than dozens/hundreds of acres of rural America

No I am not claiming anything is a lie. I just didn't understand what your "that" was referring to.

 

[MT15]

“prosperity Jesus” is blasphemy. The churches who elected Trump are also blasphemous. They are preaching something, but it isn’t Christianity.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

As far as I know, Jesus never spoke a single word about gender or sexual orientation. Let’s also not forget the Old Testament, which includes passages like the one about David, who loved Jonathan more deeply than anyone else.

And then there’s this: “Let those without sin cast the first stone.” What right do you have to judge others for living differently—especially when they’re harming no one?

Jesus preached compassion, understanding, and humility. Judging others for their choices is not living by his example; it’s living in opposition to it.

You are talking about "sexual orientation " and I was talking about 2 genders. God made each and every person and he has a plan for their lives. People who reject their gender and undergo surgeries to attempt to become a different gender are in rebellion with their creator.

 

[MT15]

People who reject their gender and undergo surgeries to attempt to become a different gender are in rebellion with their creator.

Says you. God doesn’t say that, I don’t think, and for sure Jesus doesn't say that.

 

[coldseat]

You are talking about "sexual orientation " and I was talking about 2 genders. God made each and every person and he has a plan for their lives. People who reject their gender and undergo surgeries to attempt to become a different gender are in rebellion with their creator.

What about people that are born as neither gender? Is that the Creator rebelling against himself? Why is god making those "mistakes"?

 

[Optimus Prime]

No I am not claiming anything is a lie. I just didn't understand what your "that" was referring to.

You know exactly what ‘that’ refers to

You’re the one who brought up the red/blue county map like it means something

Look at the way the US map looked when all votes were finally in.
MOST of the country was/is red.

It was pointed out that the however square miles that make up Los Angeles County had more voters than 20 states that is exponentially larger

But because that destroys your “look at the map. MOST of the country is red” narrative you refuse to answer

 

[cuddlemonkey]

You are talking about "sexual orientation " and I was talking about 2 genders. God made each and every person and he has a plan for their lives. People who reject their gender and undergo surgeries to attempt to become a different gender are in rebellion with their creator.

Maybe God's plan for trans folk is to come to this realization and transition so their physical body matches their gender identity. I mean, it's not like you know for sure. Unless you are telling us that you understand God's thought processes.

 

[Optimus Prime]

You are talking about "sexual orientation " and I was talking about 2 genders. God made each and every person and he has a plan for their lives. People who reject their gender and undergo surgeries to attempt to become a different gender are in rebellion with their creator.

You realize of course that this is just a slightly tweaked argument against homosexuality

“God created men and women to procreate. ‘Multiply and be fruitful’ and all that. Same sex cannot procreate therefore homosexuality is in rebellion with God’s will and plan”

I’ve talked before about the migration of hate. Since “I hate gays!” is out of fashion (though some are trying hard to bring it back) just changed to transgender using the exact same justifications

 

[Optimus Prime]

You are talking about "sexual orientation " and I was talking about 2 genders. God made each and every person and he has a plan for their lives. People who reject their gender and undergo surgeries to attempt to become a different gender are in rebellion with their creator.

Where do you draw the line between what does and does not “rebel against the creator”?

Is plastic surgery?

“God made your gigantic nose or tiny breasts”

Is air conditioning?

“God wanted the people who lived here to be hot”

Are airplanes?

“God didn’t intend humans to be able to go anywhere in the world in a day”

What specifically is your definition of what qualifies as a rebellion against the creator?

 

[coldseat]

Where do you draw the line between what does and does not “rebel against the creator”?

Is plastic surgery?

“God made your gigantic nose or tiny breasts”

Is air conditioning?

“God wanted the people who lived here to be hot”

Are airplanes?

“God didn’t intend humans to be able to go anywhere in the world in a day”

What specifically is your definition of what qualifies as a rebellion against the creator?

Christians who never truly question their faith or religion never really give any thought to these overarching question that poke holes all over through their rational. They just stick their hands in the sand and "trust their faith". It's easy when you fit into the cookie cutter box that is set up by your religion.

It's when you don't fit in that box that you truly start question these things that you have been taught.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Says you. God doesn’t say that, I don’t think, and for sure Jesus doesn't say that.

Duh. Some common sense needs to be applied. When the Bible was written there were no gender changing surgeries so of course it wasn't mentioned.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

The Bible says God created man and it was very good. The Bible says in whatever state you find yourself, be content.