General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump (1 Viewer)

[SamAndreas]

Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/live-updates-harris-democrats-biden-drops-out-trump-campaign.html

She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.

 

[LA - L.A.]

Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?

Abso-fricking-loutely, yes. Every aspect of my life is better now than when Trump was in charge.

 

[LA - L.A.]

https://www.npr.org/2024/07/17/g-s1-11654/five-things-to-know-about-jd-vances-connections-to-tech-billionaires

Interesting read. The tech bros want government by entrepreneurs which is another way of saying government by the merger of state and corporation/wealth with government in the inferior position.

Flock these azzhats.

Some of the major industrial bros of Germany funded and helped the Nazi's to rise to power, just like some of the major tech bros are doing here with Trump and Republicans.

 

[LA - L.A.]

Weird.

Not an original thought in Trump's or Republican's heads. Not a single one.

 

[LA - L.A.]

Wait so Vance showed up on the TARMAC, unannounced, professing his "hope" that AF1 will be "his" in a few months and then bee-lines for reporters asking them if they are lonely?

Weird indeed.

This is YOUR VP candidate and im LOLOL. Holy cow yall scraped the bottom of the barrel on this guy.

When you are the bottom of the barrel, then all you can do is scrape the bottom of the barrel.

 

[LA - L.A.]

Trump is playing golf today while Vance is campaigning. I think Trump only has one campaign event scheduled in the next week - in Montana of all places. It’s a bit odd.

There are rumors that he is going to drop out - because he will refuse to lose another election. I’m not sure what that does to the ticket - do they just have to roll with Vance then, and he picks a new VP?

I don’t think Trump will drop out - unless he is also prepared to flee the country. He can still make money during the campaign. But I do know he won’t care what happens to the GOP because of him dropping out.

Everything is for sell to Trump, including his presidential bid. If the fascist tech bros offered him enough money and safe haven in a country without an extradition treaty with the US, Trump would jump on that deal in a heartbeat.

Occam's razor leans toward it being simply a matte of Trump being hidden from the public, because he's suffering emotional and neurological decline. He accused Biden of being senile and is now accusing Harris of hiding from everyone. Every accusation is a confession and an admission.

If Trump is planning on dropping out, Vance doesn't seem to know about it, since he was trying to gloat about hoping AF2 would be his in a few months.

 

[LA - L.A.]

Someone said it earlier and I agree 100%. Is Trump even running for President anymore? Does he just need to feed his
narcissistic personality before adoring crowds a few more months before he fades from view? Lindsey Graham of all
people told him to stop the personal attacks and focus on policy. It really makes you wonder.

Based on what little is publicly known and past events, I think Trump has convinced himself he doesn't need to win the election to seize control of the country. I think their plan is not to win the election, but to stall and create enough chaos after the election to force a contingency election to the House of Representatives who as things stand, Trump would probably win.

That plan only works if they can keep the results in all of the swing states very close, like less than a 3% margin of difference.

 

[LA - L.A.]

I’m sure there will be a much more robust police and military presence to prevent a second Jan 6th

If I was president, I'd also post a robust 24 security presence at every ballot drop location in the country and every polling place on election day.

Putin wants Trump to win more than Trump does. That puffy chest runt can be trusted to do anything and everything he can to sabotage the election, and he will if he thinks Trump has any chance of losing.

 

[LA - L.A.]

This isn’t a small thing.

Beyonce and Swift, that's like crossing streams to destroy the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man monster and Trump's an awfully marshmallowy man.

 

[LA - L.A.]

I wonder if the overturning of a 50 year old precedent protecting reproductive freedom, or the idea that a woman's fundamental value and reason for existing is being a baby-making machine, has anything to do with such a shift.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Throughout the 2024 cycle, polling has suggested that Republicans are poised to do extraordinarily well with African Americans.

Even with Kamala Harris at the top of the ticket, more than one out of five black voters say they support Donald Trump. Younger Black voters seem especially open to casting ballots for the Republican party.

On its face, this seems like a sea change in Americans’ electoral affinities. The last time Republicans put up numbers anywhere near that level with Black voters was in 1976.

And given that Black voters currently make up nearly one-quarterof the Democratic base, a scenario where more than 20% of these constituents defected to the other side would be absolutely devastating for the vice-president’s electoral prospects.

The good news for Democrats is that, even if the polls have been genuinely capturing overall Black sentiment in the US, they are unlikely to be accurately predicting the final vote distribution in November.

To clarify why polls are unlikely to reflect the eventual vote margins for this particular subset of voters, it might be helpful to look at how things typically shake out for third-party candidates.

During the 2016 electoral cycle, Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson consistently hovered around 9% of the vote in polling. As the race tightened in the weeks before the election, voters began defecting to one of the top ticket candidates.

However, in the week before ballots were cast, he was still polling at more than 6%. Ultimately, he ended up with just over 3%.

In the 2020 cycle, Green party candidate Howie Hawkins polled at 2% of the national vote six weeks before the election. He ultimately secured roughly one-quarter of 1% of ballots.

In the current cycle, Robert F Kennedy Jr polled above 10% for most of the race and, at his high point, was more than double that.

However, as the race has tightened (we’re less than 90 days out), and after Joe Biden dropped out, Kennedy is now polling around 4%. In the end, he’d probably be lucky to get half that many votes in November.

In short: despite most Americans consistently expressing support for alternatives to the Democratic and Republican nominees, third-party candidates consistently underperform at the ballot box relative to their polling – even in cycles (like 2016) where unusually high numbers of voters dislike both major party candidates…..

Why Donald Trump won’t make inroads with Black voters | Musa al-Gharbi

Even with Harris running, more than one out of five Black voters say they support Trump. But polls can be deceiving

www.theguardian.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

The number of voters who think that 78-year-old Donald Trump is in good health is dropping and the number who believe he’s too old to runfor president is increasing, a new poll shows.

This comes after 81-year-old President Joe Biden’s departure from the race and his replacement atop the Democratic ticket with Vice President Kamala Harris, 59. On Tuesday, Harris revealed her running mate Tim Walz, the governor of Minnesota, 60, during a raucous rally in Philadelphia.…..

Half of voters voice concerns about Trump’s age ahead of election

More than half of voters say Trump is too old to be president amid concerns he’d be unable to finish second term

www.independent.co.uk

 

[bdb13]

Betting odds have flipped, Harris now the slight favorite

2024 U.S. President

www.realclearpolling.com

 

[MT15]

This is what concerns me - he’s not really trying to win the vote, he’s not campaigning, he’s not advertising, he doesn’t have field offices or volunteers. Does he think he can get the election thrown into the House?

 

[MT15]

He is, however, paying attention to the polls. Evidently he is so upset that he forgot to misspell Kamala.

 

[MT15]

This must be the poll he is obsessed with. I’ve been waiting for a poll of “likely” voters, because that is supposed to be much better than using registered voters. The guy I have been reading on polls says this poll is an outlier, although he acknowledges the trend in Harris’ favor. He says the n size is smaller than other recent polls, probably because it’s harder to get “likely” voters.

 

[MT15]

Harris spoke privately with Muslim leaders in Detroit before her rally, including leaders of the uncommitted movement during the primaries.

 

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[MT15]

Now Trump has called a press conference for 2 PM today. Will he take questions? Will he announce he’s dropping out?

I’m pretty sure this woman worked for Trump, and turned against him after Jan 6.