General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump (2 Viewers)

[SamAndreas]

Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/live-updates-harris-democrats-biden-drops-out-trump-campaign.html

She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.

 

[SaintForLife]

……..In other words: being called a bunch of weirdos has driven Republicans stark raving mad.

Honestly, if you want a quick pick-me-up, just take a look at some of the videos of them melting down about it.

Their overwhelming response has been to shout WE’RE NOT WEIRD, YOU’RE WEIRD at the top of their lungs. JD Vance, for example, in something of an own goal, tweeted a video of Harris telling everyone her pronouns with the caption “JD Vance is weird”.

While politicians trading silly insults may seem like a step back for US politics, Democrats emphasizing how weird Republicans are is actually progress.

For far too long Democrats have made the mistake of treating fanatics on the right like they’re reasonable people who want to have good-faith debates.

But there is no way to have a good-faith debate with people who call their opponents “childless cat ladies”, defend 12-year-olds getting married and think 10-year-old rape victims should be forced to give birth.

Why even try? Instead of lending credence to their bizarre ideas by attempting to engage with them, it’s far more effective to bluntly call them what they are: a bunch of weirdos…….

This one weird trick might win Democrats the election | Arwa Mahdawi

Republicans are freaking out that their grotesque policies and bizarre politicians are now being called weird by Democrats

www.theguardian.com

It's hilarious that the Democrats think the weird narrative has driven people on the right mad.

It's obvious that whatever Democrat consultant came up with it didn't think about all the crazy people that Democrats tell us are normal.

 

[Nebaghead]

Oh like yall don't say certain things at nauseum. It's a political message board. Also, nobody has defended it from what I've seen so that's why I keep asking.

We have, you are not satisfied with our answer and we don’t care what you are saying. So stop talking about it. We aren’t changing your mind and you aren’t ours on this topic so stop bringing it up.

 

[LA - L.A.]

The border, inflation, previous more liberal statements, etc - any focus on Harris's race like this is a distraction from the things to go after her on that can help win the election for Republicans.

This race thing with Harris is like them walking into a trap though..

I think Republicans have to reject Trump and the far right white supremacists, fanatical christians if they want to win the election. As long as Trump and the racist, misogynistic christian extremists are allowed to control the Republican party, they are both dead in the water and taking on water.

 

[SaintForLife]

The border, inflation, previous more liberal statements, etc - any focus on Harris's race like this is a distraction from the things to go after her on that can help win the election for Republicans.

This race thing with Harris is like them walking into a trap though..

Actually it's going to be the lead in to highlighting how Harris changes her political positions just like she changes which race she identifies as for political expediency.

 

[Nebaghead]

It's hilarious that the Democrats think the weird narrative has driven people on the right mad.

It's obvious that whatever Democrat consultant came up with it didn't think about all the crazy people that Democrats tell us are normal.

Because you guys keep talking about it, someone must be bothered. It distracts is all. Every time a candidate has to defend comments about being weird is less time being on offense. It worked. It won’t win th election, just something that is annoying and wasting energy.

 

[LA - L.A.]

Because you guys keep talking about it, someone must be bothered. It distracts is all. Every time a candidate has to defend comments about being weird is less time being on offense. It worked. It won’t win th election, just something that is annoying and wasting energy.

The name calling junkies don't like being called names. You don't say.

 

[bdb13]

Actually it's going to be the lead in to highlighting how Harris changes her political positions just like she changes which race she identifies as for political expediency.

I just think it's pretty dumb to lead in to that with the race part then.. this isn't like Elizabeth Warren where something was invented, Kamala is actually half Indian and half black as far as I am aware, right? Mountain-out-of-a-molehilling this as the lead in to that just seems very ill-advised imo.

 

[SaintForLife]

Because you guys keep talking about it, someone must be bothered. It distracts is all. Every time a candidate has to defend comments about being weird is less time being on offense. It worked. It won’t win th election, just something that is annoying and wasting energy.

It's so stupid. The Democrats say Vance or whoever is weird, people on the right say its stupid or silly and yall claim means we're are mad about it or bothered?

You think the party that has cross dressers on the White House lawn and tells us men can have babies telling the other party they are weird is a smart strategy?

Does that mean you all are scared of Trump because yall keep talking about him?

 

[not2rich]

Another person who can't defend it.

If you were asking the question in good faith, someone might engage with you in good faith. We're good, in case you haven't noticed. But we thank you for expressing your genuine concern about our party nominating process.

 

[SaintForLife]

Problem is the economy is improving and inflation is going down. Interest rates will be cut soon and they will be stupid to harp on that.
Border was handled poorly to start with but it has improved so that will be tough. The GOP will need to hope something happens in September or October to use. If all else remains the same, Trump will lose.

The sky high prices of aren't improving and that's the #1 reason why Trump will win.

You think that the border has improved enough so it's not an issue?

 

[Nebaghead]

It's so stupid. The Democrats say Vance or whoever is weird, people on the right say its stupid or silly and yall claim means we're are mad about it or bothered?

You think the party that has cross dressers on the White House lawn and tells us men can have babies telling the other party they are weird is a smart strategy?

Does that mean you all are scared of Trump because yall keep talking about him?

Obviously the GOP surrogates and candidates have to waste time defending it. So it is working at some level. I’m not talking about the board, we get upset about everything but none of us have influence in the campaigns.
Watch the whole cross dressing comments. I have a trans son and that is a derogatory comment. If you don’t agree with trans gender rights, be respectful but saying tranny, cross dressing is derogatory.

 

[bdb13]

The sky high prices of aren't improving and that's the #1 reason why Trump will win.

You think that the border has improved enough so it's not an issue?

The border and inflation are easily the weakest two positions for the Democrats/Kamala imo.

I think the economy overall is probably better off than most people had anticipated it would be aka no real recession and there has been job growth.

But when everything like your rent and food is expensive, you were already living on edge and your wages didn't keep up.. doesn't really matter that the economy is " largely better than people had anticipated."

 

[SaintForLife]

Obviously the GOP surrogates and candidates have to waste time defending it. So it is working at some level. I’m not talking about the board, we get upset about everything but none of us have influence in the campaigns.
Watch the whole cross dressing comments. I have a trans son and that is a derogatory comment. If you don’t agree with trans gender rights, be respectful but saying tranny, cross dressing is derogatory.

Cross dressing is derogatory? Explain how describing what they are doing is derogatory.

 

[SaintForLife]

The border and inflation are easily the weakest two positions for the Democrats/Kamala imo.

I think the economy overall is probably better off than most people had anticipated it would be aka no real recession and there has been job growth.

But when everything like your rent and food is expensive, you were already living on edge and your wages didn't keep up.. doesn't really matter that the economy is " largely better than people had anticipated."

The job growth is either for foreign-born jobs or part time jobs. It's smoke and mirrors. There has been no job growth for native-born jobs.

 

[Nebaghead]

The sky high prices of aren't improving and that's the #1 reason why Trump will win.

You think that the border has improved enough so it's not an issue?

Mortage rates are back to the low 6’s from 7.5 in the spring. When they are back in the 5’s housing purchases will jump. Inflation rate is down, prices are going down but that is more due to corporate greed. 401Ks are up people have more disposable income, payroll is growing. 6 months ago your argument would be more valid but not much anymore.

The monthly number of illegal crossings are lower month over month.

Unlawful border crossings drop for 5th straight month, reaching lowest level since September 2020

U.S. Border Patrol agents made 56,000 migrant apprehensions along the U.S.-Mexico border in July, the lowest number since September 2020.

www.cbsnews.com

What is your measure of border crossings is worst?

 

[LA - L.A.]

The sky high prices of aren't improving...

Prices and inflation have started improving.

Inflation Cooled Further in June

The Consumer Price Index rose 3 percent in June on an annual basis, a sharper slowdown in inflation than economists had expected. On a monthly basis, prices dropped 0.1 percent.

www.nytimes.com

Prices fell in June for the first time since the start of the pandemic | CNN Business

Americans weighed down by fast-rising prices for three years just received more encouraging news on the inflation front.

www.cnn.com

Inflation is inching closer toward the Fed’s 2% target | CNN Business

Yet another favorable piece of economic data shows that price hikes are slowing and that long-unruly inflation appears to be tamed.

www.cnn.com

 

[not2rich]

Actually it's going to be the lead in to highlighting how Harris changes her political positions just like she changes which race she identifies as for political expediency.

Politicians changing positions isn't exactly unusual. Trump and Vance have changed their positions on all kinds of positions over the years and you aren't crying about that.

And what you're doing with the race thing is just gross. She's bi-racial and has always identified with both her mother's ancestry and her father's. You think you're being clever, and I know you didn't come up with this "idea" yourself, but you're actually revealing yourself in a pretty ugly light.

 

[SaintForLife]

Mortage rates are back to the low 6’s from 7.5 in the spring. When they are back in the 5’s housing purchases will jump. Inflation rate is down, prices are going down but that is more due to corporate greed. 401Ks are up people have more disposable income, payroll is growing. 6 months ago your argument would be more valid but not much anymore.

The monthly number of illegal crossings are lower month over month.

Unlawful border crossings drop for 5th straight month, reaching lowest level since September 2020

U.S. Border Patrol agents made 56,000 migrant apprehensions along the U.S.-Mexico border in July, the lowest number since September 2020.

www.cbsnews.com

What is your measure of border crossings is worst?

People who can't afford to buy all the food they need, pay bills or whatever else don't care that the mortgage rates or inflation is down.

The Democrats aren't going to be able to act like they didn't let millions of illegals in the country by saying border crossings are down. Everyone has seen the open borders and all the illegals taking services away from citizens.