General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump (3 Viewers)

[SamAndreas]

Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/live-updates-harris-democrats-biden-drops-out-trump-campaign.html

She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.

 

[MT15]

I wonder how Gym Jordan will respond to this. It seems like an issue with the platform but Musk has removed all the impartial safeties off of his company and I wouldn’t put it past him to throttle Kamala’s account.

Nadler urges Republicans to investigate X's restrictions on Kamala Harris' campaign account, citing censorship concerns

The congressman from New York said the restrictions could be a form of "egregious censorship."

www.nbcnews.com

I saw a lot (LOT) of complaining from people getting that error message yesterday. I didn’t get that message and was able to follow her new account, but I have yet to see a tweet from that account show up in my feed. I was curious so I went to the account home page, and yes they are tweeting from that account. The tweet just aren’t being shown to me, which they should be.

I wouldn’t put anything past Elmo. He’s a bad actor.

 

[Booker]

Fair point, but I think Harris would’ve prevailed if Biden had not run and endorsed her prior to the primaries. I also think more would’ve voted, because Biden was not getting people enthused. I would’ve preferred a competitive primary, but there isn’t time for competitors. Despite the undemocratic selection of the party nominee, it was necessary and Biden eventually did the right thing for the party. If primary voters don’t want Harris, they can certainly not vote for her in the general, but my guess is that over 99% will vote for her. Some may have voted for someone else in the primary, but Harris is now the only obvious option, and you can’t please everyone completely.

I'm actually pretty pleasantly surprised at how the party has rallied behind Harris.

 

[Infoman]

As for 4, we are on the second day of repeated posting about this from a MAGA poster. It’s tiresome. It wasn’t directed at you at all.

Understood... That said, even though SFL is poking the bear here and using it as condescending point... and even though that point doesn't impact him in the least on how he votes... he does still have a point... the process here to select KH was "less than what the democratic standard should be"... and there is at least some irony to that for sure.

 

[SaintForLife]

just in this thread alone, here are 3 posts of yours with what you term "commentary" -

i see right thru you. And i know that bothers you.

I could care less what you think about me. When you complain about others posting the same way I have then you might have a point. You guys only complain about how I post while others do the same and you don't say a word.

But you keep doin you and ill keep looking right thru you.

you wanna debate all aspects of this election, im all for it. Until you start engaging in actual debate, then you are doing nothing more than trolling as evidenced below. You cant have an actual conversation on topic because you arent knowledgable enough on topic to debate. So you resort to this. ( trust me those who have spent ANY time over on the Russia/Ukraine thread know exactly what im talking about when it comes to you )

"When you post how I want you to then I won't be so mad"

 

[SaintForLife]

I just keep wondering why this matters so much to people who aren't Democrats and who where never going to vote for Biden or Harris. That's the only people complaining.

Oh, that's right, they're worried about disenfranchising Democrat voters ... .

Do you think others shouldn't point out the obvious hypocrisy of the supposed protectors of democracy rigging 3 straight presidential primaries?

 

[LA - L.A.]

Yeah I thought an announcement was made regarding tweet posting, but I guess it’s not going to be enforced.

Similar to "working to rule" the tweet spammers are just barely "posting to rule."

 

[SaintForLife]

I wonder how Gym Jordan will respond to this. It seems like an issue with the platform but Musk has removed all the impartial safeties off of his company and I wouldn’t put it past him to throttle Kamala’s account.

Nadler urges Republicans to investigate X's restrictions on Kamala Harris' campaign account, citing censorship concerns

The congressman from New York said the restrictions could be a form of "egregious censorship."

www.nbcnews.com

The Democrats are now complaining about censorship on X? The same party that wanted more censorship of "hate speech and misinformation"? Oh how the tables have turned.

NBC News found 13 X accounts that posted they were unable to follow “Kamala HQ” and received the “Limit reached” error message, in addition to the three accounts that Nadler identified in his letter to Jordan.

13 out of 600 million monthly users? It's probably was some type of error. If they were purposely blocking people from following her it would have been more than 13 most likely.

 

[Nebaghead]

The Democrats are now complaining about censorship on X? The same party that wanted more censorship of "hate speech and misinformation"? Oh how the tables have turned.

NBC News found 13 X accounts that posted they were unable to follow “Kamala HQ” and received the “Limit reached” error message, in addition to the three accounts that Nadler identified in his letter to Jordan.

13 out of 600 million monthly users? It's probably was some type of error. If they were purposely blocking people from following her it would have been more than 13 most likely.

Should be looked at. If it is truly 13 users then it will be a nothing burger.
However Elmo happens to privately own a company and he is actively supporting a competing campaign. Worth taking a look. If it was George Soros, you and your red hat friends would have the pitchforks out.

 

[LA - L.A.]

CS- The only thing obvious is you are incapable of conversation that doesn't regurgitate what you want to hear or how you want to hear it... There are many other posters here (Dem/Rep/Independent alike) that are capable of this... And have had those discussions with me and others in a meaningful way that's not condescending, assumptive, and jack-off-ish.

If you want to isolate yourself to just those who will never saying anything but what you would consider gospel... I will grant that wish for you. LOL

self-awareness

 

[J-DONK]

Do you think others shouldn't point out the obvious hypocrisy of the supposed protectors of democracy rigging 3 straight presidential primaries?

I agree with you on principle, but you could explain your position better.

Here is how I would word it:

Democrats needs to work on allowing more competition on the primary process.

Let's take a look at the last 3 cycles?

2016: Why was Joe Biden counseled not to run 2016? This is a example of whatever ostracizing happening in the party for taking a shot. It needs to stop.
2020: No real complaints. There was obvious backroom deals to get all the centrist candidates to drop out to stop Bernie. That's fair game. It was still up to voters.
2024: An incubment president, but with his age, and mental concerns. Someone serious should have ran, if for nothing else the pratice of running a national campaign. This is again an example of of the ostracizing atmosphere going on in the party.

I'll add a question for SFL at the end here. This feels off coming from a Republican like yourself. You've had the same candidate 3 cycles in a row. If Trump loses are you happy with him being the candidate again in 2028 at the age 82?

 

[SaintForLife]

The voters did vote for Kamala on the the Biden/Kamala ticket, but you choose to conveniently ignore that. And as others have pointed out, delegates make the decision who to nominate and primaries were not always the process, making your argument a moot point.

If you're going to laugh at the democrats for the protecting democracy slogan, then you really need to belly laugh guffaw at the orange man and his lemmings for having any shred of promoting democracy ever for the fake elector scheme, et al, which in no way promotes democracy.

The Vice President isn't on the tickets for the presidential primary.

As Glenn talks about, the elites controlled the process and they picked the candidate.



but now they have chosen his replacement without any consultation on the part of the voters."

 

[MT15]

Understood... That said, even though SFL is poking the bear here and using it as condescending point... and even though that point doesn't impact him in the least on how he votes... he does still have a point... the process here to select KH was "less than what the democratic standard should be"... and there is at least some irony to that for sure.

Not sure I can agree. This is the standard for when a candidate withdraws. The crazy proposals for “mini-primaries” and even worse the TV town halls were deviating from the standard. This is what the process lays out for this situation. The situation itself is less than ideal, but the DNC is following protocol IMO.

 

[SaintForLife]

Understood... That said, even though SFL is poking the bear here and using it as condescending point... and even though that point doesn't impact him in the least on how he votes... he does still have a point... the process here to select KH was "less than what the democratic standard should be"... and there is at least some irony to that for sure.

They have repeated over and over that they are the protectors of democracy against Trump.

Rigging 3 straight presidential primaries and this process to pick Harris shows that the protecting democracy is nothing more than a campaign slogan.

Now they get upset when they are reminded of that.

 

[MT15]

They have repeated over and over that they are the protectors of democracy against Trump.

Rigging 3 straight presidential primaries and this process to pick Harris shows that the protecting democracy is nothing more than a campaign slogan.

Now they get upset when they are reminded of that.

You should look in the mirror and think about what you are supporting before you beat a dead horse in here with the hypocrisy stick.

 

[Nebaghead]

They have repeated over and over that they are the protectors of democracy against Trump.

Rigging 3 straight presidential primaries and this process to pick Harris shows that the protecting democracy is nothing more than a campaign slogan.

Now they get upset when they are reminded of that.

You do know when they are talking about Democracy, they aren’t talking about the primaries. It is about the integrity of the general election which is protected by the constitution. Feel free to show me where primaries are in the constitution?

 

[MT15]

Posting mostly because I found the 3-way numbers interesting.

 

[Frazier Ducrane]

What a difference a week makes in the polls. Or poles, depending on what side you are on.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/harris-leads-trump-44-42-us-presidential-race-reutersipsos-poll-finds-2024-07-23/

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4788554-harris-trump-reuters-ipsos-poll/

 

[SaintForLife]

You do know when they are talking about Democracy, they aren’t talking about the primaries. It is about the integrity of the general election which is protected by the constitution. Feel free to show me where primaries are in the constitution?

Is it still considered a democracy when the elites rig the process so they can decide for the voters who the nominee will be?

If you are a protector of democracy you don't pick and choose what parts you want to protect and which parts you can ignore.