General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump (1 Viewer)

[SamAndreas]

Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/live-updates-harris-democrats-biden-drops-out-trump-campaign.html

She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.

 

[LA - L.A.]

Nice post, but it still doesn't change the fact that she is the first nominee to never receive a single vote.

Almost all of Democratic voters support Harris replacing Biden. Democracy is about doing what the majority of people want. The Democratic party is doing what almost all of it's voters want.

That will be confirmed when almost all of the Democratic voters vote for Harris against Trump. This is the real factual reality that has SFL bugging.

He's not worried about preserving democracy, he's worried Trump will lose to Harris and won't be able to destroy our democracy like Trump intends to do. He's using the classic "say you want the exact opposite of what you actually want," that Republicans have been using for over 50 years.

 

[efil4]

It's satire and you are so worried about hearing things you don't like you have to call people names.

Nobody is worried about Harris. It's funny how you guys think me posting about Harris means I'm worried about her.



Before that, as District Attorney of San Francisco, you knowingly used faulty evidence from a tainted drug lab to fraudulently convict over 1000 defendants.

first off, you have been warned about your incessant posts of tweets with no commentary from yourself.

Thats the definition of trolling. You just post tweets and move on to the next one. There is only one descriptive term for one who engages in trolling.

Second. Of COURSE you are worried about Harris. You have witnessed the awakening in the Democratic Party. You have seen the fund raising numbers. ( Its why you counter that with polling posts - and you post with no commentary ) and you absolutely know that the Womens Rights are going to dominate this election cycle and will determine the election.

Yes you are worried about Harris because if you werent, there wouldnt be a single post about Harris on this site. You would have moved on to what Trump is going to do as POTUS. ( oh wait......you cant, since he hasnt laid out his plans for his term other than vague statements )

its all fun and games until you realize that what you thought was a given, suddenly, looks to be in doubt.

 

[SaintForLife]

Up till 1952, primaries weren’t even a thing. Even then, they would ignore them and nominate who they wanted at the convention. So get off of this “never” kick. People who use absolutes can always be proven wrong (see what I did).

Do you think they should do it like they did back in 1952? Oh wait, that's basically what they did.

Once again, I understand why the Democrats did what they did, but it shows the protect democracy narrative is just a campaign slogan.

The Democrats have now rigged 3 straight presidential primaries.

 

[Infoman]

My 2 cents about this... There is a huge difference between the Biden/Harris ticket getting millions of Primary Votes to earn the nomination - and Harris basically just being awarded them out of necessity... The voter expectation in the Primary when their ballot was cast is... JB at the top of the ticket... and KH in her current background role (VP)...

I mean I can see why it was done due to the fire drill they created by not replacing him much earlier... but I think most sensible voters would want a chance to vote for their nominee in a open setting where they get to decide if KH is the best candidate now that everything has completely changed... and compare her to other viable options.

They are not getting that democratic process opened up to them.... I don't know that they (primary voters) care in this instance... but they are not being given the benefit of debate, contrast, and comparison to decide for themselves. They have been bypassed in this "solution" to push a nominee through before the clock runs out...

 

[SaintRob]

Nice post, but it still doesn't change the fact that she is the first nominee to never receive a single vote. I understand why the democrats did that and I would have supported it if I were a Democrat, but I will laugh at the protecting democracy campaign slogan.

The voters did vote for Kamala on the the Biden/Kamala ticket, but you choose to conveniently ignore that. And as others have pointed out, delegates make the decision who to nominate and primaries were not always the process, making your argument a moot point.

If you're going to laugh at the democrats for the protecting democracy slogan, then you really need to belly laugh guffaw at the orange man and his lemmings for having any shred of promoting democracy ever for the fake elector scheme, et al, which in no way promotes democracy.

 

[SaintForLife]

first off, you have been warned about your incessant posts of tweets with no commentary from yourself.

Are you wearing your glasses because I didn't only post a tweet?

Thats the definition of trolling. You just post tweets and move on to the next one. There is only one descriptive term for one who engages in trolling.

That's your definition of trolling which is something a Trump supporter says or something you don't like that makes your tummy hurt.

Second. Of COURSE you are worried about Harris. You have witnessed the awakening in the Democratic Party. You have seen the fund raising numbers. ( Its why you counter that with polling posts - and you post with no commentary ) and you absolutely know that the Womens Rights are going to dominate this election cycle and will determine the election.

Yes you are worried about Harris because if you werent, there wouldnt be a single post about Harris on this site. You would have moved on to what Trump is going to do as POTUS. ( oh wait......you cant, since he hasnt laid out his plans for his term other than vague statements )

Yeah its not like she's the new nominee. Why would I post about their new nomineee?

its all fun and games until you realize that what you thought was a given, suddenly, looks to be in doubt.

It's fun to listen to Kamala be unburdened by what has been.

 

[efil4]

Are you wearing your glasses because I didn't only post a tweet?

just in this thread alone, here are 3 posts of yours with what you term "commentary" -

i see right thru you. And i know that bothers you.

But you keep doin you and ill keep looking right thru you.

you wanna debate all aspects of this election, im all for it. Until you start engaging in actual debate, then you are doing nothing more than trolling as evidenced below. You cant have an actual conversation on topic because you arent knowledgable enough on topic to debate. So you resort to this. ( trust me those who have spent ANY time over on the Russia/Ukraine thread know exactly what im talking about when it comes to you )

Why Eric Holder?

That doesn't sound good.

That was AOC

 

[coldseat]

My 2 cents about this... There is a huge difference between the Biden/Harris ticket getting millions of Primary Votes to earn the nomination - and Harris basically just being awarded them out of necessity... The voter expectation in the Primary when their ballot was cast is... JB at the top of the ticket... and KH in her current background role (VP)...

I mean I can see why it was done due to the fire drill they created by not replacing him much earlier... but I think most sensible voters would want a chance to vote for their nominee in a open setting where they get to decide if KH is the best candidate now that everything has completely changed... and compare her to other viable options.

They are not getting that democratic process opened up to them.... I don't know that they (primary voters) care in this instance... but they are not being given the benefit of debate, contrast, and comparison to decide for themselves. They have been bypassed in this "solution" to push a nominee through before the clock runs out...

I just keep wondering why this matters so much to people who aren't Democrats and who where never going to vote for Biden or Harris. That's the only people complaining.

Oh, that's right, they're worried about disenfranchising Democrat voters ... .

 

[Infoman]

I just keep wondering why this matters so much to people who aren't Democrats and who where never going to vote for Biden or Harris. That's the only people complaining.

Oh, that's right, they're worried about disenfranchising Democrat voters ... .

I doesn't matter to me... that's why I started with "my 2 cents"... Am I not allowed to post on topics that don't directly impact me in the moment? Who made you the authority on such matters? Why do you rev your engine at red lights?

 

[Lapaz]

My 2 cents about this... There is a huge difference between the Biden/Harris ticket getting millions of Primary Votes to earn the nomination - and Harris basically just being awarded them out of necessity... The voter expectation in the Primary when their ballot was cast is... JB at the top of the ticket... and KH in her current background role (VP)...

I mean I can see why it was done due to the fire drill they created by not replacing him much earlier... but I think most sensible voters would want a chance to vote for their nominee in a open setting where they get to decide if KH is the best candidate now that everything has completely changed... and compare her to other viable options.

They are not getting that democratic process opened up to them.... I don't know that they (primary voters) care in this instance... but they are not being given the benefit of debate, contrast, and comparison to decide for themselves. They have been bypassed in this "solution" to push a nominee through before the clock runs out...

Fair point, but I think Harris would’ve prevailed if Biden had not run and endorsed her prior to the primaries. I also think more would’ve voted, because Biden was not getting people enthused. I would’ve preferred a competitive primary, but there isn’t time for competitors. Despite the undemocratic selection of the party nominee, it was necessary and Biden eventually did the right thing for the party. If primary voters don’t want Harris, they can certainly not vote for her in the general, but my guess is that over 99% will vote for her. Some may have voted for someone else in the primary, but Harris is now the only obvious option, and you can’t please everyone completely.

 

[Booker]

Polling has been pretty hit and miss for the last decade, but if this is any reflection of what internal numbers are showing it makes sense...

• Why Biden ultimately decided that he shouldn't run
• Why the party has quickly coalesced around Harris
• Why Republicans are freaking out

New Yahoo News/YouGov poll: Kamala Harris has a huge head start for the Democratic nomination — and the strongest numbers against Trump

Harris ties Trump in a hypothetical matchup, 46% to 46%. Other Democrats trail by several points.

www.yahoo.com

 

[coldseat]

I doesn't matter to me... that's why I started with "my 2 cents"... Am I not allowed to post on topics that don't directly impact me in the moment? Who made you the authority on such matters? Why do you rev your engine at red lights?

Did I tell you not to post about it? Overdramatic much?

You can post about it and I can post in response to your post. I asked a simple question because it's obvious to me that there are many Democrat voters on this board or people that are planning to vote for Harris and not one has raised concern about it. I don't see Democrats anywhere raising concerns about this. It's all coming from the right. So it begs the question why they care so much. The answer is also plainly obvious.

 

[t_rav_82]

just in this thread alone, here are 3 posts of yours with what you term "commentary" -

i see right thru you. And i know that bothers you.

But you keep doin you and ill keep looking right thru you.

you wanna debate all aspects of this election, im all for it. Until you start engaging in actual debate, then you are doing nothing more than trolling as evidenced below. You cant have an actual conversation on topic because you arent knowledgable enough on topic to debate. So you resort to this. ( trust me those who have spent ANY time over on the Russia/Ukraine thread know exactly what im talking about when it comes to you )

Yeah I thought an announcement was made regarding tweet posting, but I guess it’s not going to be enforced.

 

[MT15]

My 2 cents about this... There is a huge difference between the Biden/Harris ticket getting millions of Primary Votes to earn the nomination - and Harris basically just being awarded them out of necessity... The voter expectation in the Primary when their ballot was cast is... JB at the top of the ticket... and KH in her current background role (VP)...

I mean I can see why it was done due to the fire drill they created by not replacing him much earlier... but I think most sensible voters would want a chance to vote for their nominee in a open setting where they get to decide if KH is the best candidate now that everything has completely changed... and compare her to other viable options.

They are not getting that democratic process opened up to them.... I don't know that they (primary voters) care in this instance... but they are not being given the benefit of debate, contrast, and comparison to decide for themselves. They have been bypassed in this "solution" to push a nominee through before the clock runs out...

My take: she will receive the votes of the majority of delegates at the convention just like any other candidate. The delegates, in most states, are elected by the people of their district in the primary to represent them. This is representative democracy at work.

In most states the delegates are bound to vote for the person who won the primary for the first round of voting, after that if there isn’t a nominee they are free to vote for whoever. The only thing that changed in this case is that Biden withdrew and released his delegates from their first round obligation so they could vote for whoever they wanted in the first round.

This is an extremely stupid complaint when put forth by people who support Trump. Like a mind-numbing amount of bad faith to the point of being trollish.

 

[Infoman]

CS- The only thing obvious is you are incapable of conversation that doesn't regurgitate what you want to hear or how you want to hear it... There are many other posters here (Dem/Rep/Independent alike) that are capable of this... And have had those discussions with me and others in a meaningful way that's not condescending, assumptive, and jack-off-ish.

If you want to isolate yourself to just those who will never saying anything but what you would consider gospel... I will grant that wish for you. LOL

 

[Infoman]

My take: she will receive the votes of the majority of delegates at the convention just like any other candidate. The delegates, in most states, are elected by the people of their district in the primary to represent them. This is representative democracy at work.

In most states the delegates are bound to vote for the person who won the primary for the first round of voting, after that if there isn’t a nominee they are free to vote for whoever. The only thing that changed in this case is that Biden withdrew and released his delegates from their first round obligation so they could vote for whoever they wanted in the first round.

This is an extremely stupid complaint when put forth by people who support Trump. Like a mind-numbing amount of bad faith to the point of being trollish.

1. She will receive the votes of the delegates
2. Agreed
3. My point was "would they have chosen her in an open primary voting setting that included other options"? We will never know... no one was given the opportunity or choice.
4. Also agree... if you are voting for DJT... why would you GAD?

 

[Nebaghead]

I wonder how Gym Jordan will respond to this. It seems like an issue with the platform but Musk has removed all the impartial safeties off of his company and I wouldn’t put it past him to throttle Kamala’s account.

Nadler urges Republicans to investigate X's restrictions on Kamala Harris' campaign account, citing censorship concerns

The congressman from New York said the restrictions could be a form of "egregious censorship."

www.nbcnews.com

 

[MT15]

1. She will receive the votes of the delegates
2. Agreed
3. My point was "would they have chosen her in an open primary voting setting that included other options"? We will never know...
4. Also agree... if you are voting for DJT... why would you GAD?

As for 4, we are on the second day of repeated posting about this from a MAGA poster. It’s tiresome. It wasn’t directed at you at all.