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    SamAndreas

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    Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

    There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:


    She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

    She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

    This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



    To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

    I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

    Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.
     
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    project 2525, more supreme court judges, get out of jail free card and thanks to the sc he has near immunity to go after his political rivals. Ukraine will fall. Israel will keep killing civilians. Outlaw any abortions, make it a crime. Women will suffer and die. What a shirt show
     
    She wasn't handed the nomination. With Biden dropping out the delegates had to vote for someone else. They didn't have to vote for Harris, the overwhelming majority of them chose to cast their votes for Harris. They could have chosen someone else.

    To say Harris was handed the nomination is like saying Biden was handed the nomination. Most of the delegates were chosen by voters to represent them. The delegates did just that by voting for Harris after Biden dropped out.

    Just delete your account, or logout or something. Jesus dude.
     
    No, she wasn't. To think she was is overly simplistic and dumb, in my opinion.

    But she was. The DNC didn't have much choice. And that's no slight to her at all. I supported her. But the DNC I think should have tried to persuade Biden to not run for a second term. I was very vocal before the primaries that Biden should step aside and let some fresh faces run in the primaries.
     
    Do you think she would have won in an open primary?
    No one will ever know. I don't know. If she ran on the same messages in her primary campaign as she did in her presidential campaign, I would have voted for her and I think it's possible she wins.

    It's irrational and foolish for anyone to think they know what an alternative past would have been, yet people who insist they are rational do it all the time.
     
    If he actually does his tariff thing, that won't happen.

    Agree. Meaningful tariffs slow global trade and shift the tax burden to working class. Uncertainty will tank the market.
     
    Come clean yall, would you have voted for Kamala in an open primary?

    I said it months ago, if the Dems lost it would be because they thought that just running her would beat Trump. It didn’t happen. They played themselves.
     
    But she was. The DNC didn't have much choice. And that's no slight to her at all. I supported her. But the DNC I think should have tried to persuade Biden to not run for a second term. I was very vocal before the primaries that Biden should step aside and let some fresh faces run in the primaries.

    We had a massive thread on this, and I personally had heated debates with him on this issue.

    He knows that Biden's delegates made it impossible for an open primary. I explained this personally to him.
     
    Agree. Meaningful tariffs slow global trade and shift the tax burden to working class. Uncertainty will tank the market.
    I’m not so sure that he will tank the market, and that’s a broad statement. Some stocks will drop, others will soar.

    Short medical stocks, buy defense. Sell renewables, buy oil and gas.
     
    Come clean yall, would you have voted for Kamala in an open primary?

    I said it months ago, if the Dems lost it would be because they thought that just running her would beat Trump. It didn’t happen. They played themselves.

    I would give Walz higher odds in a open primary.
     
    NYT's decision desk tells me this is copium.

    I know. They told me some depressing shirte earlier too but I’ve heard there are still more than enough votes in these states left in urban /suburban areas to swing even
     
    Come clean yall, would you have voted for Kamala in an open primary?

    I said it months ago, if the Dems lost it would be because they thought that just running her would beat Trump. It didn’t happen. They played themselves.
    May not have mattered ultimately vs Trump with any realistic Democratic nominee, but no I doubt she would have won.
     
    She wasn't handed the nomination. With Biden dropping out the delegates had to vote for someone else. They didn't have to vote for Harris, the overwhelming majority of them chose to cast their votes for Harris. They could have chosen someone else.

    To say Harris was handed the nomination is like saying Biden was handed the nomination. Most of the delegates were chosen by voters to represent them. The delegates did just that by voting for Harris after Biden dropped out.

    I can't agree with this. There was no other option. And no, the delegates weren't going to vote for anyone else. Saying they could have is a bit much. Technically, I suppose they could have, and I know there was discussion about that before, but ultimately, there wasn't another option because it would have been a huge clown should otherwise.
     
    I dunno, I'm definitely much better off now than when Trump was President, but when I went to vote, I wasn't thinking about that. What I was thinking was no way am I voting for the pus grabber in chief.
    I am just passing on what some of the major networks panelists said.
     

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