General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump (2 Viewers)

[SamAndreas]

Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/live-updates-harris-democrats-biden-drops-out-trump-campaign.html

She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.

 

[MT15]

Phil is a piece of shirt.

 

[Taurus]

Free buttons and my collar starched? How bout you fools that voted for biden?

A professional Administration, a better life and no more refrigeration trucks to hold the morgue overflows. The latter being what you got for voting Trump.

 

[MT15]

Trump campaign tries to do damage control:

 

[MT15]

 

[Optimus Prime]

Wow - this rally

Would that have been Rick Scott’s response if the guy said Haiti and not Puerto Rico (which has a sizable population in Florida?)

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

This guy gets it!

 

[Optimus Prime]

The campaign of Vice President Kamala Harrisis reportedly keeping President Joe Biden at arm’s length as the 81-year-old is itching to get out on the campaign trail for his former running mate.

Three people told Axios that the Harris campaign keeps saying that they’ll get back to the president’s team on when to send him out into the field.

The Harris campaign views Biden as a political liability but doesn’t want to say directly that they don’t want him to stump for the vice president. Democrats and some of Biden’s staff keep walking on eggshells around Biden’s ego and feelings, according to the outlet.

One person said it’s like a slow-moving break-up, with Harris’s team respecting Biden, but don’t want to connect a president with a 39 percent approval rating, according to FiveThirtyEight average, to their candidate who’s in a historically close race…..

Harris’s team reportedly keeps Biden from campaign trail in a ‘slow-moving break-up’

Vice president’s team doesn’t want to connect their candidate to a president with a low approval rating in a historically close race

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Optimus Prime]

In Washington DC, I measure out my life in polls and heart palpitations. The polls are relentless, nail-biting, maddeningly contradictory.

There are national polls, swing state polls, polls from tiny counties that predict a whole election, partisan polls designed to demoralise the other side.

There are polls on whether a candidate inspires confidence, compassion, leadership. I’ve noticed how, after a bad poll, I start looking for another that tells me numbers I like. I’ve also noticed how, after a good one, I will look for a bad poll to bring me down, as if I’m trying to meanie the balloon of self-confidence and remind myself of “reality”.

But the polls never do quite take you to reality. Instead, they shape it. It’s not just what the polls are saying, or even how they were put together, that’s the great problem here – it’s how the obsessive focus on polls is symptomatic of how we view politics.

Polls make politics feel like a race, a game, a sport of feuding personalities. Who’s up? Who’s down? What tactics have they used to get one over on each other? What does it say about their personality?

Words are seen as weapons with which politicians show off their ability to subvert or scare the opposition – not as substantive statements about what they intend to do.

And what sort of politician will thrive in this world where political speech is just a game? A candidate such as Donald Trump.

It was the communications professors Kathleen Hall Jamieson and Joseph Cappella who first noticed the connection between describing politics as a series of strategies and a growing cynicism among voters.

This was back in the mid-1990s, when the media was constantly analysing the rivalry between US president Bill Clinton and speaker of the house Newt Gingrich, the early iteration of today’s identity-based partisanship.

and Cappella found the media was focusing less on the issues the two were debating – often around health reform – and more on how they were competing.

The coverage fixated on who was winning, utilised the language of games and war, emphasised the performance and perception of politicians, put a new weight on polls.

This sort of coverage activated people’s cynicism about politics – the sense that it’s just a game between self-serving schemers – and then made them more cynical about the media.

Decades later, this “spiral of cynicism” is all around us: from the exploding popcorn of polls to the headlines.

After Trump’s former chief of staff John Kelly compared him to a fascist last week, the Wall Street Journal wrote: “Harris uses ex-Trump chief of staff’s remarks to paint him as unfit for office”.

The question of whether Trump is a fascist or not was reduced to highlighting a rhetorical tactic. The idea that all politics is just a cynical game, and that the “mainstream media” is not really looking out for the cares of the voter, has become so pervasive it has helped pave the way for politicians who stand on sweeping away the whole edifice of democracy as we know it……..

Polling has turned the US election into a game. We need to take a reality check | Peter Pomerantsev

The proliferation of opinion polls on the presidential election makes it seem more like a sport involving personalities, when what these surveys should be doing is targeting policies

www.theguardian.com

 

[LA - L.A.]

Left leaning media (PBS, Atlantic, Robert Reich, others) concede Trump his moving up in the polls.

They are all using an average of polls that include the garbage polls. It's not a "left" or "right" leaning thing.

This is not right wing media making it up.

You're right, it's not "right wing" media making up the fake polls. It's being made up by polling companies that were just formed and fudging their numbers. News outlets aren't filtering out those polls when they look at an average of polls.

Now, you can say polls are not accurate (and that historically has been the case many times), but legitimate national polls have a slight surge to the Trump campaign 9 days prior to the election.

That's not true for the most reputable and reliable polls. Believe what you want.

That's scary to me, because a lot of people do not pay attention to politics until a week or so before the election.

I'm as anti-Trump as you can get, but I'm forking scared as hell he will get re-elected. Too close for my comfort considering the candidate Trump is......

Have you been paying attention to early voting data. You should pay more attention to that and less attention to polls.

 

[SamAndreas]

I found this:

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

those MSG clips need to be played by the media to nauseum.. they need to be on the 24/7 news cycle until 8pm Nov 5th..

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

The campaign of Vice President Kamala Harrisis reportedly keeping President Joe Biden at arm’s length as the 81-year-old is itching to get out on the campaign trail for his former running mate.

Three people told Axios that the Harris campaign keeps saying that they’ll get back to the president’s team on when to send him out into the field.

The Harris campaign views Biden as a political liability but doesn’t want to say directly that they don’t want him to stump for the vice president. Democrats and some of Biden’s staff keep walking on eggshells around Biden’s ego and feelings, according to the outlet.

One person said it’s like a slow-moving break-up, with Harris’s team respecting Biden, but don’t want to connect a president with a 39 percent approval rating, according to FiveThirtyEight average, to their candidate who’s in a historically close race…..

Harris’s team reportedly keeps Biden from campaign trail in a ‘slow-moving break-up’

Vice president’s team doesn’t want to connect their candidate to a president with a low approval rating in a historically close race

www.independent.co.uk

The D's doing this this is just another example of why they fail at messaging! They are shying away from all of Biden's accomplishments because the let the GOP convince the country that BIDENOMICS has failed, when in fact, BIDENOMICS is a HUGE success! They have successfully led us through this GLOBAL inflation period faster than any other G7 nation and our markets are stronger than any point in history.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

I'm sure one of the GOP's super PACs has this fee covered.

Then, there's this nugget:

 

[LA - L.A.]

One effect already from this rally:

Who had "racist comedian" on their October surprise card? Bad Bunny has Taylor Swift and Beyonce level influence. This rally was Trump's and Republican's closing argument before the election. They sent out their message loud and clear. "We will attack minorities and the others, and we will use archaic laws to do it."

The timing of the endorsement is perfect in my opinion. It doesn't give Trump and Republicans to do damage control or distract from it, but it gives Trump plenty of time to hurl criticisms at Bad Bunny which hopefully will be filled with racial slurs just to drive the message home of who Trump and the Republicans are.

Expect Trump and Republicans to come up with the craziest claim we've heard yet to try to desperately distract from Bad Bunny's endorsement of Harris.

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

i would say you would think they'd know better, but they are so full of themselves, they think they can just say what they want at this point..

 

[LA - L.A.]

Grant Cardone mentioned Harris' "pimp handlers." Said "We need to slaughter this (?) other people."

JFC. If you don't want to be compared to Nazi's don't threaten to "slaughter the other people" with the same unhinged, foaming at the mouth energy as the Nazi's did.

They just went full Nazi and everyone knows you don't go full Nazi if you want to win an election.

 

[SamAndreas]

Who had "racist comedian" on their October surprise card? Bad Bunny has Taylor Swift and Beyonce level influence. This rally was Trump's and Republican's closing argument before the election. They sent out their message loud and clear. We will attack minorities and we will use archaic laws to do it.

The timing of the endorsement is perfect in my opinion. It doesn't give Trump and Republicans to do damage control or distract from it, but it gives Trump plenty of time to hurl criticisms at Bad Bunny which hopefully will be filled with racial slurs just to drive the message home of who Trump and the Republicans are.

Expect Trump and Republicans to come up with the craziest claim we've heard yet to try to desperately distract from Bad Bunny's endorsement of Harris.

Until today I didn't know who bad bunny was.

I don't much get out.

 

[LA - L.A.]

Listen to unhinged Tucker. He’s lost his mind completely

They are all talking like people who know they are going to lose and their shams are going to implode on them from the pressure of accountability.