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    Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

    There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:


    She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

    She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

    This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



    To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

    I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

    Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.
     
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    The pope weighs in, sort of

    He basically went with ‘they’re both bad, pick the one you think is least bad
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    ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE (AP) — Pope Francis on Friday slammed both U.S. presidential candidates for what he called anti-life policies on abortion and migration, and he advised American Catholics to choose who they think is the “lesser evil” in the upcoming U.S. elections.

    “Both are against life, be it the one who kicks out migrants, or be it the one who kills babies,″ Francis said.

    The Argentine Jesuit was asked to provide counsel to American Catholic voters during an airborne news conference while he flew back to Rome from his four-nation tour through Asia. Francis stressed that he is not an American and would not be voting.

    Neither Republican candidate Donald Trump nor the Democratic candidate, Kamala Harris, was mentioned by name.

    But Francis nevertheless expressed himself in stark terms when asked to weigh in on their positions on two hot-button issues in the U.S. election — abortion and migration — that are also of major concern to the Catholic Church.

    Francis has made the plight of migrants a priority of his pontificate and speaks out emphatically and frequently about it. While strongly upholding church teaching forbidding abortion, Francis has not emphasized church doctrine as much as his predecessors.

    Francis said migration is a right described in Scripture and that anyone who does not follow the Biblical call to welcome the stranger is committing a “grave sin.”

    He was also blunt in speaking about abortion. “To have an abortion is to kill a human being. You may like the word or not, but it’s killing,” he said. “We have to see this clearly.”

    Asked what voters should do at the polls, Francis recalled the civic duty to vote.

    “One should vote, and choose the lesser evil,” he said. “Who is the lesser evil, the woman or man? I don’t know.…….

    apnews.com

    Pope slams both Harris and Trump as 'against life' and urges Catholics to vote for 'lesser evil'

    Pope Francis has strongly criticized both U.S. presidential candidates over what he calls anti-life policies on abortion and migration.
    apnews.com apnews.com
     
    Optimus Prime said:
    The pope weighs in, sort of

    He basically went with ‘they’re both bad, pick the one you think is least bad
    ===============
    ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE (AP) — Pope Francis on Friday slammed both U.S. presidential candidates for what he called anti-life policies on abortion and migration, and he advised American Catholics to choose who they think is the “lesser evil” in the upcoming U.S. elections.

    “Both are against life, be it the one who kicks out migrants, or be it the one who kills babies,″ Francis said.

    The Argentine Jesuit was asked to provide counsel to American Catholic voters during an airborne news conference while he flew back to Rome from his four-nation tour through Asia. Francis stressed that he is not an American and would not be voting.

    Neither Republican candidate Donald Trump nor the Democratic candidate, Kamala Harris, was mentioned by name.

    But Francis nevertheless expressed himself in stark terms when asked to weigh in on their positions on two hot-button issues in the U.S. election — abortion and migration — that are also of major concern to the Catholic Church.

    Francis has made the plight of migrants a priority of his pontificate and speaks out emphatically and frequently about it. While strongly upholding church teaching forbidding abortion, Francis has not emphasized church doctrine as much as his predecessors.

    Francis said migration is a right described in Scripture and that anyone who does not follow the Biblical call to welcome the stranger is committing a “grave sin.”

    He was also blunt in speaking about abortion. “To have an abortion is to kill a human being. You may like the word or not, but it’s killing,” he said. “We have to see this clearly.”

    Asked what voters should do at the polls, Francis recalled the civic duty to vote.

    “One should vote, and choose the lesser evil,” he said. “Who is the lesser evil, the woman or man? I don’t know.…….

    apnews.com

    Pope slams both Harris and Trump as 'against life' and urges Catholics to vote for 'lesser evil'

    Pope Francis has strongly criticized both U.S. presidential candidates over what he calls anti-life policies on abortion and migration.
    apnews.com apnews.com
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    Ah, the Catholic church weighing in on keeping children safe. The height of hypocrisy.
     
    …….Another recent study conducted by the Institute for Women’s Policy Research found that since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v Wade, the 16 states with near-total abortion bans have cost the US economy $68 billion a year.

    According to the study, the increase in cost is associated with a “reduced labor force participation and lower earnings for women,” as well as “higher employee turnover rates and more lost work hours.”

    Studies also show that states with severe abortion restrictions have higher maternal mortality rates, higher rates of pregnancy complications and higher infant mortality rates.

    In Texas, the state’s near-total abortion ban — enacted prior to the unprecedented Dobbs decision — has subsequently caused a rise in infant deaths.

    One 2023 analysis of states hostile to abortion found that those states had 12,911 more maternal mortalities, 7,518 more hysterectomies, 234,376 more cesarean deliveries, over 102,000 more hospital readmissions, 93,911 more neonatal intensive care unit (NICU) admissions, and more than 3,000 more infant deaths — all totaling $34.2 million in higher health care costs per year.

    Women who are denied abortion care are also more likely to experience adverse mental health outcomes, like depression and anxiety, contributing to an estimated $282 billion in economic costs annually, according to the National Bureau of Economic Research.

    In other words, these dire outcomes — in addition to costing people their physical and mental health, often their reproductive futures and in many cases their lives — cost money.

    Of course, abortion care is not the only “social issue” that negatively impacts our nation’s economy.

    According to one 2021 study, the health care costs directly associated with a single act of gun violence costs $1 billion annually. In 2020, medical care costs for victims of gun violence totaled $290 million.

    The short- and long-term cost of mental health care treatment for survivors and victims families reached an estimated $225 billion in 2019 alone.

    The cost of a single life lost to gun violence each year? Incalculable.

    When LGBTQ+ youth who are not accepted by their family, friends and community, they are more likely to experience anxiety, depression, and suicidal ideation. The economic cost of suicide and nonfatal self-harm averages $510 billion annually, according to one study.

    The cost of a single LGBTQ+ life lost to bigotry and hatred each year? Incalculable.…….


    www.independent.co.uk

    Abortion bans and gun crime are costing the US economy billions. Voters should know

    A recent study found that since the Supreme Court overturned Roe, the 16 states with near-total abortion bans have cost the US economy $68 billion a year
    www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
     
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    superchuck500 said:
    The Pope weighs in: They’re both evil

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    At least it's consistent. The Catholic church is anti-abortion so they consider Rowe to be evil, but also anti-cruelty to the downtrodden, so they believe mistreatment of immigrants as evil. The church doesn't believe in exceptions for rape, incest, nor the life of the mother. Essentially the church believes women should sacrifice themselves for fetuses. At least the church's position should result in neutrality, since they consider both evil.

     
    The two American astronauts stranded on the International Space Station through February said Friday they plan to vote in the November election from space.

    “I sent down my request for a ballot today,” one of the astronauts, Butch Wilmore, said on a call with reporters on Friday afternoon. “It’s a very important role that we play as citizen including those elections, and NASA makes it very easy for us to do that.”…….


    www.nbcnews.com

    Stranded astronauts plan to vote in the 2024 election from space

    The two American astronauts stuck on the International Space Station through February will still be able to cast their ballots while in orbit.
    www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
     
    Lapaz said:
    At least it's consistent. The Catholic church is anti-abortion so they consider Rowe to be evil, but also anti-cruelty to the downtrodden, so they believe mistreatment of immigrants as evil. The church doesn't believe in exceptions for rape, incest, nor the life of the mother. Essentially the church believes women should sacrifice themselves for fetuses. At least the church's position should result in neutrality, since they consider both evil.

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    Meanwhile, of course, the Church is itself evil.
     

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