General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump (7 Viewers)

[SamAndreas]

Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/live-updates-harris-democrats-biden-drops-out-trump-campaign.html

She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.

 

[Optimus Prime]

This made me laugh

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

if only flying a large American flag actually made you a patriot.. fyi, it doesn't..

 

[MT15]

 

[MT15]

Cheney will campaign for Harris.

 

[efil4]

Cheney will campaign for Harris.

While I appreciate the sentiment, I don't know if I would sign off on this move.
Rs may view it as an affront and turn then completely off.
Her verbal endorsement was enough imo. I don't know that her out in battleground states will move moderates over to Harris. It may do the opposite.

I'm really torn on this idea

 

[MT15]

While I appreciate the sentiment, I don't know if I would sign off on this move.
Rs may view it as an affront and turn then completely off.
Her verbal endorsement was enough imo. I don't know that her out in battleground states will move moderates over to Harris. It may do the opposite.

I'm really torn on this idea

She will turn off MAGA, she will speak to moderate Rs and give them permission to still think of themselves as R and vote for Harris. Same for fiscally conservative independents, IMO.

 

[MT15]

Elon’s response to Swift’s endorsement of Harris is just so cringe. He’s a complete loon.

 

[MT15]

Also, Harris’ campaign messaging is being done really well, IMO. I got an email overnight saying no debate ever won a presidency, and we will need to all turn out and vote because this will be a very close election.

 

[MT15]

 

[MT15]

If this is true - then wow!

 

[superchuck500]

 

[MT15]

The contrast between the 2 parties just couldn’t be more stark. We on here had a spirited debate about Biden after the first debate. Some more worried than others about changing the ticket, but nobody is happier about the ways things are going than those who were the most worried. Harris is exceeding expectations, IMO.

 

[Optimus Prime]

If this is true - then wow!

that's not a low information voter, that is no information voter

Most of us are on this site daily, we read articles (many from this site) etc. I do know a lot of people who don't

They don't read anything, watch anything, know anything about what's going on in politics

I know a couple people who didn't realize Biden had dropped out until like 2 weeks after

 

[superchuck500]

More evidence that it was objectively obvious which candidate performed better in the debate.

 

[efil4]

More evidence that it was objectively obvious which candidate performed better in the debate.

he lost $370,000,000 in valuation after a 90 min debate

ouch

 

[LA - L.A.]

Elon’s response to Swift’s endorsement of Harris is just so cringe. He’s a complete loon.

Elon Musk's narcissistic personal disorder is in full view with that comment. I empathize mightily with his children.

 

[Optimus Prime]

If the 2024 presidential election were held today, it’s not clear who would win. Vice President Kamala Harris has a slight national advantage, according to The Washington Post’s average of polls, but margins in swing states are uniformly narrow. If the polls are overestimating Harris’s support, Donald Trump will return to the White House. If they are underestimating her support, she’ll be the next president.

Unless, of course, there’s some successful, anti-democratic effort to subvert her victory. An effort that about a quarter of Republicans and 1 in 7 Americans overall think should be undertaken in the event that Trump loses.

That’s the determination of new national polling from PRRI. But before we dig into that, it’s useful to look at a different newly released poll, this one from the Associated Press and its partners at NORC and USAFacts.

In that poll, Americans were asked what information sources they trusted when it came to accurately reporting the results of the presidential election. The source that engendered the most trust (here reflecting the percentage of people saying they had at least a moderate amount of trust) was the certified results produced by government agencies.

Local news sources (television and newspapers) were the next most trusted, followed by national news outlets. The candidates and their campaigns were among the least trusted — particularly Trump’s campaign.

Except that, among Republicans, Trump and his campaign were the most trusted source of election information. And by a healthy margin.

What’s important about that chart, though, isn’t simply that Trump is viewed as the most trustworthy source of information about the election. It’s that this is in part because the other sources of information are given so little trust (particularly when compared with Democrats).

It’s not that trust is generally high among Republicans, with Trump emerging as the most confidence-inspiring. It’s that trust is broadly low, except in Trump.

This is an outcome Trump has been specifically working toward. Injecting skepticism into even obviously objective presentations and elevating doubt about institutions — exaggerated or not — reinforces his position as the sole trustworthy authority to his supporters.

It is a foundational element of authoritarian leadership.

Which brings us back to that PRRI poll. In it, Americans were presented with a number of questions aimed specifically at measuring authoritarian sympathies. One measure, what the researchers refer to as the “Right-Wing Authoritarianism Scale” (RWAS), measured respondents’ agreement with four statements:

• “The only way our country can get through the crisis ahead is to get back to our traditional values, put some tough leaders in power, and silence the troublemakers spreading bad ideas.
• “Our country will be destroyed someday if we do not smash the perversions eating away at our moral fiber and traditional beliefs.
• “What our country really needs is a strong, determined leader who will crush evil, and take us back to our true path.
• “Our country will be great if we honor the ways of our forefathers, do what the authorities tell us to do, and get rid of the ‘rotten apples’ who are ruining everything.”

Those who completely or mostly agreed with most or all of the statements were rated as having high scores. A parallel measure, referred to as the “Child-Rearing Authoritarianism Scale,” was evaluated in a similar way...............

MSN

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/09/10/quarter-republicans-think-trump-should-seize-power-even-if-he-loses/

 

[LA - L.A.]

I'd really would like to see Beyonce and Swift do a cover of Sisters Are Doin’ It For Themselves together as a response to the misogyny.