General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump (6 Viewers)

[SamAndreas]

Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/live-updates-harris-democrats-biden-drops-out-trump-campaign.html

She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.

 

[MT15]

 

[UriUT]

This cannot be real life

This cannot be the nominees for president and vice president of the United States of a major party

Those nominees cannot be polling neck and neck with normal people

This is the type of stuff that is supposed to come from people you’ve never heard of running for a party you’ve never heard of

“Who’s Zachary Kantebury and what’s the Protectarian Party?”

So we are now at the “immigrants are eating cats” stage of the descent into nonsensical madness

And guess what?

We’re not done descending. Not even close

We should have a contest

We should guess some of the the next bat shirt crazy “things” will be and see who gets closest

And I don’t know if any of us would come up with anything as forking stupid like “Haitians are eating cats”

The End of Democracy Has Already Begun

In the first episode of our new podcast, a look at how lies prime a society for a fall

www.theatlantic.com

Anne Applebaum and Peter Pomerantsev addressed this.

These two are from the Soviet bloc and had the perspective of living in an autocracy. [Correction, Pomerantsev was; Anne Applebaum has expertise in Eastern Europe and is married to the current Polish foreign minister, who by the way is an incredible listen. This was during Brexit and he was on a british news show arguing against Brexit.]

Pomerantsev: To show that you belonged to the Putin system, you had to repeat absurd lies that people Putin was arresting were guilty of totally absurd charges. You had to agree that Nazis were taking over Ukraine. You know, that could be socially very awkward at first, and people could get quite aggressive, especially when they were drunk. And after a while, it just became dangerous because if you disagreed with these absurd statements, with these conspiracy theories, then you were essentially an enemy of the state. And that would become incredibly dangerous.

I'll be a broken record...before Ukraine, Putin ruled by conspiracy theories. After clear evidence that it was Russian intelligence (the police caught them coming out of an apartment complex with bombs that had explosive material only found in a Russian base) who was behind those moscow apartment bombings, Putin pushed through various conspiracies to dilute Russian's focus resulting in public apathy. They couldn't determine what was real or not, and questioned the prosecutor's assertions. From above, it's also a tool to test loyalties.

This is a good podcast....and it's only the first episode. The theme [edit of this episode] is poisoning of the public mind.

 

[MT15]

Some more pushback from locals in Springfield. Hoping we have enough more of a free press than Russia that Putin’s tactics won’t work here.

 

[Optimus Prime]

More on the cat thing

When the forking stupid thing is even forking stupider than you thought

 

[UriUT]

Some more pushback from locals in Springfield. Hoping we have enough more of a free press than Russia that Putin’s tactics won’t work here.

How absurd is it that we have to discredit something this asinine?

 

[Optimus Prime]

How absurd is it that we have to discredit something this asinine?

And to some the discrediting will come across as unconvincing denials and evidence of coverups

And all the time and energy spent discrediting the stupid things is time and energy not spent talking about something that matters

 

[Optimus Prime]

Around the time Kamala Harris was taking over the reins of the Democratic presidential ticket,a mysterious group reportedly began a smear campaign against her, paying social media influencers tens of thousands of dollars to promote posts, according to reports.

In late July, a network of influencers who had been recruited to push conservative messagesabout Donald Trump or President Joe Biden throughout the summer, received an email requesting they make colorful sexual insults about Harris, according to Semafor.

In return, they would be paid tens of thousands of dollars via Zelle, a digital payments network.

The email, titled “War Room – Kamala Messaging” was followed by a Zoom invitation from the person who organized the group, a man calling himself James Bacon. On the Zoom call, individuals kept their cameras off and did not identify themselves by name, the report noted.

However, Semafor reports that one person on the call was able to identify an individual who spoke up in protest of making sexual allegations about Harris and later left the call - disgraced Republican congressman George Santos……

Mystery group paid influencers tens of thousands to push sexual smears about Harris

Ex-congressman George Santos told The Independent he was invited to join call but objected to making such slurs about Harris

www.independent.co.uk

 

[UriUT]

And to some the discrediting will come across as unconvincing denials and evidence of coverups

And all the time and energy spent discrediting the stupid things is time and energy not spent talking about something that matters

I remember a little while back when Prigozhin had his little insurrection. I had already deactivated my twitter account, but this event was best followed by reporters in Ukraine, and they were all on twitter. So I reactivated twitter. Not long after, and the insurrection died almost immediately, I saw Dr. Hotez being bullied on twitter by Musk, Rogan, and JFK Jr. They demanded that Dr. Hotez debate them on vaccines. One crazy person even accosted Dr. Hotez at his home demanding that he do this debate. One of the argument against doing so was because it's their forum, and Dr. Hotez would not be on solid ground to make arguments. Moreover, his arguments would be against moving goal posts. He would never be able to make his point. Further, Dr. Hotez's scientific evidence wouldn't resonate...it's not sexy and may be boring. In the end, Dr. Hotez didn't satisfy these moron's bullying. And that's the best course of action sometimes. When met with absurdity it is best to ignore it. Because...we're elevating their stupidity to the level that is worth responding...to Dr. Hotez's intelligent level; legitimizing the lunacy.

I immediately deactivated twitter.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I remember a little while back when Prigozhin had his little insurrection. I had already deactivated my twitter account, but this event was best followed by reporters in Ukraine, and they were all on twitter. So I reactivated twitter. Not long after, and the insurrection died almost immediately, I saw Dr. Hotez being bullied on twitter by Musk, Rogan, and JFK Jr. They demanded that Dr. Hotez debate them on vaccines. One crazy person even accosted Dr. Hotez at his home demanding that he do this debate. One of the argument against doing so was because it's their forum, and Dr. Hotez would not be on solid ground to make arguments. Moreover, his arguments would be against moving goal posts. He would never be able to make his point. Further, Dr. Hotez's scientific evidence wouldn't resonate...it's not sexy and may be boring. In the end, Dr. Hotez didn't satisfy these moron's bullying. And that's the best course of action sometimes. When met with absurdity it is best to ignore it. Because...we're elevating their stupidity to the level that is worth responding...to Dr. Hotez's intelligent level; legitimizing the lunacy.

I immediately deactivated twitter.

If I’m thinking of the right guy I always think of Dr Hotez as Dr Bow Tie

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

This dude.

This is Republican leader. The man they hail as one of the country's smartest! They should cease their support of this clown and assist him into an assisted living facility!

 

[LA - L.A.]

Harris's response to Trump when he rants about this during the debate needs to be, "Having been in the presence of both President Biden and now you, I can say with certainty that President Biden is more mentally acute and has better cognition than what you are currently displaying here. So if you believe President Biden is unfit to be president because of his age, that would certainly disqualify you for the office as well." Then segue into a topic for Seniors like social security.

I agree with sentiment, but it needs to be condensed down into a 10 second or less snappy and dismissive sound bite. Like her response to Dana Bash asking her about Trump saying she wasn't always black.

 

[LA - L.A.]

And the worst amplifier of disinformation weighs in:

SFL is on twitter now?

 

[LA - L.A.]

This cannot be real life

This cannot be the nominees for president and vice president of the United States of a major party

Those nominees cannot be polling neck and neck with normal people

I think the polls are way off, intentionally in some cases.

This is the type of stuff that is supposed to come from people you’ve never heard of running for a party you’ve never heard of

“Who’s Zachary Kantebury and what’s the Protectarian Party?”

Probably some guy who tells tales to a bunch of proctologists at a party at a prophylactic convention.

So we are now at the “immigrants are eating cats” stage of the descent into nonsensical madness

And guess what?

We’re not done descending. Not even close

Every accusation is a deflection of guilt. RFK Jr. is why Trump and his minions are spreading this particular lie.

We should have a contest

We should guess some of the the next bat shirt crazy “things” will be and see who gets closest

And I don’t know if any of us would come up with anything as forking stupid like “Haitians are eating cats”

I'll take a whack. The next thing will be that Jamaican immigrants are giving out candy laced with voodoo powder to children on Halloween to turn children into mindless zombie slaves.

Every accusation is a deflection of guilt. Remember?

 

[MT15]

This dude.

This is Republican leader. The man they hail as one of the country's smartest! They should cease their support of this clown and assist him into an assisted living facility!

Some were saying this is a fake. Sad that you cannot tell.

 

[UriUT]

If I’m thinking of the right guy I always think of Dr Hotez as Dr Bow Tie

Lol. Yeah. That's him.

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/dr-peter-hotez-joe-rogan-18161194.php

 

[Nebaghead]

Some were saying this is a fake. Sad that you cannot tell.

Was it a fake tweet or what ever he calls his posts on Truth Social.

 

[MT15]

Was it a fake tweet or what ever he calls his posts on Truth Social.

I’m not sure. Some of the comments said it was parody. Like I said - so sad that we can’t tell.

 

[fooferdoggie]

This dude.

This is Republican leader. The man they hail as one of the country's smartest! They should cease their support of this clown and assist him into an assisted living facility!

wait I thought she was coimrad? He cant seem to make up his mind.