General Election 2024 Biden vs Trump (1 Viewer)

[SteveSBrickNJ]

As we head toward the summer and the National Party Conventions, it might be handy to have a thread focused on the upcoming matchup of current President Biden vs Former President Trump.
As of April 28,2024 , CNN's poll shows Trump leading. Yet polls are not always accurate and they are constantly changing.
Feel free to use this thread for all things relating to Biden vs Trump.
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CNN Poll: Trump maintains lead over Biden in 2024 matchup as views on their presidencies diverge

Donald Trump continues to hold an advantage over President Joe Biden as the campaign – and Trump’s criminal trial – move forward, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS. And in the coming rematch, opinions about the first term of each man vying for a second four years in the White House...

www.yahoo.com

 

[SaintForLife]

A jury convicts and decides innocence or guilt. A judge decides the punishment. Trump is a convict.
How hard is this to understand? Really?

Former Federal Prosecutor for 22 years:



That sounds like what could be possibly happening here:

With Donald Trump's sentencing in his New York hush money case delayed until September following Tuesday's decision by Judge Juan Merchan, the judge now faces the task of applying the Supreme Court's new test for the limits of presidential immunity to the former president's criminal conviction.

Trump in May was found guilty on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records related to a 2016 hush money payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels in order to boost his electoral prospects in the 2016 presidential election.

Trump's lawyers have argued that the judge should "set aside" the jury's verdict in the case because the jury heard evidence during the trial that would have been protected by presidential immunity, based on Monday's ruling by the Supreme Court that Trump is entitled to "at least presumptive immunity" from criminal prosecution for official acts taken while in office.

Following Supreme Court ruling, what happens next in Trump's criminal hush money case?

Following the Supreme Court's immunity decision, the judge in Donald Trump's hush money case faces the task of applying the ruling to Trump's criminal conviction.

abcnews.go.com

It's possible that the case or some of the charges will have to be dismissed because some evidence that the prosecutors used wouldn't be admissible based on the recent SCOTUS ruling.

 

[efil4]

Former Federal Prosecutor for 22 years:



That sounds like what could be possibly happening here:

With Donald Trump's sentencing in his New York hush money case delayed until September following Tuesday's decision by Judge Juan Merchan, the judge now faces the task of applying the Supreme Court's new test for the limits of presidential immunity to the former president's criminal conviction.

Trump in May was found guilty on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records related to a 2016 hush money payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels in order to boost his electoral prospects in the 2016 presidential election.

Trump's lawyers have argued that the judge should "set aside" the jury's verdict in the case because the jury heard evidence during the trial that would have been protected by presidential immunity, based on Monday's ruling by the Supreme Court that Trump is entitled to "at least presumptive immunity" from criminal prosecution for official acts taken while in office.

Following Supreme Court ruling, what happens next in Trump's criminal hush money case?

Following the Supreme Court's immunity decision, the judge in Donald Trump's hush money case faces the task of applying the ruling to Trump's criminal conviction.

abcnews.go.com

It's possible that the case or some of the charges will have to be dismissed because some evidence that the prosecutors used wouldn't be admissible based on the recent SCOTUS ruling.

Dictionary:

Conviction- noun- a formal declaration that someone is guilty of a criminal offense, made by the verdict of a jury or the decision of a judge in a court of law.


So someone may want to explain to your attorney pal that semantics, is just that....semantics. This is the current definition of "conviction" ( as a noun ) and there are no other definitions.

So by this same argument, if you were applying for a job, and the question was "have you ever been convicted of a felony" and you were found guilty of a felony, but had yet to be "sentenced" for that guilty find, you would be SAFE to say "NO"????

LOLOLOL- how did you tie your brain into a pretzel this time?

 

[fooferdoggie]

She's actually full of shirt

I love it who has covered up Trump's dementia??? everyone. they all deny it including you.

 

[SaintForLife]

Dictionary:

Conviction- noun- a formal declaration that someone is guilty of a criminal offense, made by the verdict of a jury or the decision of a judge in a court of law.


So someone may want to explain to your attorney pal that semantics, is just that....semantics. This is the current definition of "conviction" ( as a noun ) and there are no other definitions.

So by this same argument, if you were applying for a job, and the question was "have you ever been convicted of a felony" and you were found guilty of a felony, but had yet to be "sentenced" for that guilty find, you would be SAFE to say "NO"????

LOLOLOL- how did you tie your brain into a pretzel this time?

Oh the dictionary. That holds a lot of weight in our legal system.

 

[efil4]

Oh the dictionary. That holds a lot of weight in our legal system.

let me help you help yourself untie that pretzel


A conviction is an adjudication of a criminal defendant's guilt; specifically, it is the act or judicial process of finding a criminal defendant guilty of a charged offense. [Last updated in June of 2021 by the Wex Definitions Team] THE LEGAL PROCESS.

conviction

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[Incumbent]

Oh the dictionary. That holds a lot of weight in our legal system.

As opposed to citing a single Twitter source who may not be who he claims.

There are lawyers here telling you you’re wrong but I say it doesn’t really matter. Trump was found guilty of 34 felonies by a jury. Shipwreckedcrew can’t twist that truth into something else it isn’t.

 

[SaintForLife]

let me help you help yourself untie that pretzel


A conviction is an adjudication of a criminal defendant's guilt; specifically, it is the act or judicial process of finding a criminal defendant guilty of a charged offense. [Last updated in June of 2021 by the Wex Definitions Team] THE LEGAL PROCESS.

conviction

www.law.cornell.edu

And what happens if the case is dismissed which is a possibility after the SCOTUS ruling?

What would you call him then? A previously convicted felon but not anymore?

 

[Incumbent]

And what happens if the case is dismissed which is a possibility after the SCOTUS ruling?

What would you call him then? A previously convicted felon but not anymore?

You realize this happens and what to call them isn’t some hang up we can’t work around?

In his case, we can call him Adjudicated Rapist Donald Trump. Epstein Friend Donald Trump. Twice Impeached Donald Trump. There are options.

 

[CoolBrees]

And what happens if the case is dismissed which is a possibility after the SCOTUS ruling?

What would you call him then? A previously convicted felon but not anymore?

um. How would you call violating election law and committing 34 felonies BEFORE YOU WERE ELECTED part of his official duties?

 

[efil4]

And what happens if the case is dismissed which is a possibility after the SCOTUS ruling?

What would you call him then? A previously convicted felon but not anymore?

goalpost moving again....sigh.

Until the case is dismissed and the ruling is overturned, he is a "convicted" felon.

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[SaintForLife]

You realize this happens and what to call them isn’t some hang up we can’t work around?

In his case, we can call him Adjudicated Rapist Donald Trump. Epstein Friend Donald Trump. Twice Impeached Donald Trump. There are options.

Trump is such an easy target yet you have to continue to lie. The jury didn't find that he raped her and you know that.

Weren't you one of the people here still repeating the debunked very fine people comment about Trump?

 

[SaintForLife]

um. How would you call violating election law and committing 34 felonies BEFORE YOU WERE ELECTED part of his official duties?

The article I posted above talked about the evidence that is probably now considered inadmissible due to the SCOTUS ruling.

 

[Incumbent]

Trump is such an easy target yet you have to continue to lie. The jury didn't find that he raped her and you know that.

Weren't you one of the people here still repeating the debunked very fine people comment about Trump?

I don’t know, was I? That’s something I don’t spend a lot of time focused on now. I accepted a long time ago that Trump is a bigot who panders to bigotry.

You’re right, it was “sexual abuse”. He’s an adjudicated sexual abuser.

 

[Saint Jack]

The article I posted above talked about the evidence that is probably now considered inadmissible due to the SCOTUS ruling.

So many excuses for a man that will disown the Republican Party and everyone in it once he loses the election.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

I've come to realize and accept that you can't fix stupid, even in the Landry-bashing thread. And so, I just laugh.

 

[SaintForLife]

It was probably completed before Biden announced he was out.

 

[SaintForLife]

From July 11-12

 

[J-DONK]

Trump is such an easy target yet you have to continue to lie. The jury didn't find that he raped her and you know that.

Weren't you one of the people here still repeating the debunked very fine people comment about Trump?

This is hilarious.

No SFL, I'm not waiting until his sentencing in September to call him a convicted felon. He was convicted by a jury. That's enough buddy. It's hilarious you are trying to push back on this.

I am thankful for all our new conserative legal scholars. We've got 3, or 4 on the board now.