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    To get our minds off of the virus, debates and campaign theatrics for a moment, I thought it might be an interesting exercise to post our predictions of the final Electoral College margin. Of course, any prediction made would be a moment-in-time snapshot of what we think will happen given the current circumstances. Any number of factors could influence the vote over the final month of the campaign.

    There are sites that can help you arrive at your prediction. Real Clear Politics and 538 have polling data that can help you come up with a number. I use RCP mostly because they have a good interactive national map that's easy to use and they don't include polls conducted by companies like SurveyMonkey. They do, however include partisan polling, like Trafalgar and Change Research.

    My prediction started with looking at a best case scenario for a Trump reelection. I started by putting all of the states shown to lean in one direction in that camp. RCP shows states like Indiana and Missouri leaning Trump and Oregon and Virginia leaning Biden when those states and others like them are certainly going to end up in those columns. That leaves 11 "battleground" states (and two one-vote congressional districts) that theoretically could go either way and gives a picture of a 226-125 Biden lead before assigning a winner in those states. In looking at Trump's best case scenario, I gave him every state in which he is marginally ahead and those he is behind by less less than five points, as well as the two congressional districts. That would provide Biden with a slim 278-260 win. To come out with a better scenario for Trump, you would need to assign one or more of Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin or New Hampshire to Trump and he is trailing in all of those states by more than five points.

    However, I don't believe that Trump will achieve his best case numbers and Biden could win several more states, like Arizona, Ohio, Florida, Iowa, North Carolina, Georgia and Texas. I still think Trump will likely keep Texas, Iowa and Georgia, so my prediction as of today is 353-185 in favor of Biden.

    If you choose to participate in this exercise, you are welcome to give different predictions over the course of the next month. I intend to post a final prediction on Nov. 2/3 and may even post a weekly prediction, depending on the level of participation.
     
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    Trafalgar is a joke. It's run by Robert Cahaly. A glance at his Twitter confirms any suspicion you might have of whether or not he is partisan: https://twitter.com/RobertCahaly

    His bio on his own website reveals he is basically a career GOP operative, including working for Trump:

    Born in rural Georgia, Robert Cahaly was raised in Pendleton, South Carolina, and began his work in politics at age 10 campaigning door-to-door for a local county race. Cahaly’s portfolio spans three decades and 22 states with success at all levels of politics and public relations.


    He has worked campaigns supporting Governors Carroll Campbell, David Beasley, Mike Huckabee, Nikki Haley, Chris Christie, and Henry McMaster; US Senators Strom Thurmond, Bob Dole, Tim Scott, and Ben Sasse; and Presidents George H. W. Bush, George W. Bush, and Donald J.Trump.

     
    This is big if this holds true...


    That would be amazing if it happened. I'm not holding my breath, but I did vote already to do my part. I hope it does, there would be no bigger repudiation of Trump politics than if he were to lose Texas. We kind of need that as a country.
     
    That would be amazing if it happened. I'm not holding my breath, but I did vote already to do my part. I hope it does, there would be no bigger repudiation of Trump politics than if he were to lose Texas. We kind of need that as a country.

    I voted already to do my part as well (Ft. Bend County) and so did my wife and son. My daughter lives in Pennsylvania and her and her finance did their part there.
     
    Texas polling showing it a dead heat.

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    I can't see him winning TX. Not with fun things like 1 drop box per county that the TX governor instituted. Take Harris county, which is where Houston is in. Houston has like 2.5 million people. ONE box for 2.5 million. From my 2 minutes of googling, it seems 54% of Harris county voted democrat. I can't imagine why the (R) governor did such a thing.
     
    I can't see him winning TX. Not with fun things like 1 drop box per county that the TX governor instituted. Take Harris county, which is where Houston is in. Houston has like 2.5 million people. ONE box for 2.5 million. From my 2 minutes of googling, it seems 54% of Harris county voted democrat. I can't imagine why the (R) governor did such a thing.
    Hey, at least Texans' vote for president actually counts. It gets old knowing Louisiana is going Republican for president regardless of turnout in New Orleans. I'll never understand why so many rural, podunk towns across the country constantly vote against their interests. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Guns and abortion. Get over it already.
     
    Hey, at least Texans' vote for president actually counts. It gets old knowing Louisiana is going Republican for president regardless of turnout in New Orleans. I'll never understand why so many rural, podunk towns across the country constantly vote against their interests. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Guns and abortion. Get over it already.

    Texas has the same issue. The major metropolitan areas vote blue but the mostly white suburbs and rural areas vote red and there's so many of them the metro areas can't carry the state. Toss in some voter suppression efforts and you get Texas.

    Let's not be deceived though. It's not guns and abortion in rural areas. It's cultural identity politics. They voice some other reasons but, by and large, this is the result of the Southern Strategy. White identity politics is what is driving the rural vote and a good chunk of the suburban vote. It drives much less of the white vote among people in urban areas that deal with minorities every day and are mostly immune to the "save the suburbs", "rapists and murders" and "they're taking our jerbs!" rhetoric.
     
    Texas has the same issue. The major metropolitan areas vote blue but the mostly white suburbs and rural areas vote red and there's so many of them the metro areas can't carry the state. Toss in some voter suppression efforts and you get Texas.

    Let's not be deceived though. It's not guns and abortion in rural areas. It's cultural identity politics. They voice some other reasons but, by and large, this is the result of the Southern Strategy. White identity politics is what is driving the rural vote and a good chunk of the suburban vote. It drives much less of the white vote among people in urban areas that deal with minorities every day and are mostly immune to the "save the suburbs", "rapists and murders" and "they're taking our jerbs!" rhetoric.
    I totally agree, but 2018 seemed to be turning point in Texas. There seems to be enough people in the major metro areas to actually carry a Democrat on a national ticket. Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio (kinda) is much better than the measly 400K or so people in Orleans Parish trying to carry the state. Even the GNO area is all republican. It's literally just Orleans Parish at this point.
     
    I totally agree, but 2018 seemed to be turning point in Texas. There seems to be enough people in the major metro areas to actually carry a Democrat on a national ticket. Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio (kinda) is much better than the measly 400K or so people in Orleans Parish trying to carry the state. Even the GNO area is all republican. It's literally just Orleans Parish at this point.

    2020 MAY be the year, but I think 2024 is more likely, especially with so many people moving to Texas from blue states like California. There's a title wave happening here that's going to swamp rural Texas.

    One challenge for Louisiana is even the white people in their urban areas tend to vote Republican. So while the huge black population in New Orleans turns it blue from an overall vote count standpoint I think 70ish percent of whites in Orleans Parish are voting red.

    In the Texas urban areas, it's about 50-50 and the GOP is dead in the water with only 50% of the white vote.
     

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