Election Night (+4) in America - Result: Biden Elected President (3 Viewers)

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    Im really surprised Trump is doing so much bettter in PA. Only 42% reporting though
    Here is a quote from 538 about PA.
    Yeah, Nathaniel, it’s pretty clear that we are a long way from knowing the result in in many states, including Pennsylvania, where just 42 percent of the expected vote is in, according to ABC News. At the moment, Trump leads there, but none of the five big counties in the Philadelphia area have reported more than 33 percent of their expected vote, and Allegheny County (Pittsburgh) has reported just 17 percent. So just as I wrote before the election, I think we can expect a big “blue shift” in the results thanks to as-yet-uncounted votes in these Democratic-leaning areas, which might be enough to put Biden in the lead — although the jury’s most definitely still out there.
    Over a million absentee ballots haven't been counted from Algheny and Philly.
     
    This is hilarious. That is exactly what the Republicans have been saying the whole time. Democrats did this to themselves.

    It won’t hurt them because those votes are valid votes and they will be counted. Trump hasn’t won a single case yet to stop legal votes from being counted and he can’t stop them from being counted.
     
    I think at the end of the day...the mail in strategy is going to bite the Dems in the arse. Not even sure why they were advocating for while the president and the GOP were actively screwing with it. They should've motivated their base to physically show up...can't screw with physical in person voting.


    could be the pandemic?
     
    Mail-in wasn't the issue. Trump is winning primarily by increased turnout in rural white America. Each county he's picking up just a little bit more than 2016, and it's enough because it really adds up. Biden is actually beating the raw Hillary 2016 vote count.

    It's death by a thousand paper cuts.
    Yes, I don't think this is about mail in voting or Joe Biden.

    This is about Trump and what he's tapped into. It would have played out about like this regardless imo.
     
    I think at the end of the day...the mail in strategy is going to bite the Dems in the arse. Not even sure why they were advocating for while the president and the GOP were actively screwing with it. They should've motivated their base to physically show up...can't screw with physical in person voting.

    yeah, especially with the (R) sympothizer DeJoy running usps. WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG with mail-ins

    "USPS fails to meet deadline set by U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan to sweep facilities and immediately deliver remaining mail ballots. As of this week, USPS said there were some 300,000 ballots that lacked a delivery scan "

    oh....
     
    It won’t hurt them because those votes are valid votes and they will be counted. Trump hasn’t won a single case yet to stop legal votes from being counted and he can’t stop them from being counted.

    There will be some "spoilage" of those mail ins...and in an election where every percentage point counts those are losses you can't afford to suffer...the scary part is what happens while those legal fights happen.

    That being said, I'm banking on everything going to poop on thursday & when it does, when does it become acceptable to stop paying bills?
     
    Absolutely this. Having foresight hasn't been the DNC's strong suit. The DNC needs a top to bottom revamp imo.

    Two straight elections lost with establishment candidates should be the wake up call...

    Being Republicans who are socially liberal doesn't work.
     
    Yes, I don't think this is about mail in voting or Joe Biden.

    This is about Trump and what he's tapped into. It would have played out about like this regardless imo.

    Frankly, I think without mail-in voting fewer Dems would have voted and some of Trump's margins, like in NC, would have been bigger. If anything mail-in is making it artificially close in states Trump is winning.
     

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