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    Attorney General Merrick Garland has assigned the U.S. attorney in Chicago to review documents marked classified that were found at the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement in Washington, two sources with knowledge of the inquiry told CBS News. The roughly 10 documents are from President Biden's vice-presidential office at the center, the sources said. CBS News has learned the FBI is also involved in the U.S. attorney's inquiry.

    The material was identified by personal attorneys for Mr. Biden on Nov. 2, just before the midterm elections, Richard Sauber, special counsel to the president confirmed. The documents were discovered when Mr. Biden's personal attorneys "were packing files housed in a locked closet to prepare to vacate office space at the Penn Biden Center in Washington, D.C.," Sauber said in a statement to CBS News. The documents were contained in a folder that was in a box with other unclassified papers, the sources said. The sources revealed neither what the documents contain nor their level of classification. A source familiar with the matter told CBS News the documents did not contain nuclear secrets.


    ...The White House statement said that it “is cooperating” with the department but did not explain why Mr. Biden’s team waited more than two months to announce the discovery of the documents, which came a week before the midterm congressional elections when the news would have been an explosive last-minute development.

    It also came shortly before Mr. Garland’s Nov. 18 appointment of Jack Smith as a special counsel to take over the criminal investigation into Mr. Trump’s failure to return a large number of classified documents that were sent to his Florida residence and club, Mar-a-Lago, when he left office — even after being subpoenaed.


    A government watchdog is demanding the US attorney probing Hunter Biden in Delaware investigate tens of millions in anonymous donations from China to the University of Pennsylvania, where an academic center is named for his father, President Biden.

    The Ivy League college raked in a total of $54.6 million from 2014 through June 2019 in donations from China, including $23.1 million in anonymous gifts starting in 2016, according to public records.

    Most of the anonymous donations came after the university announced in February 2017 that it would create the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement. Joe Biden, whose term as vice president had just ended, was to lead the center and was also named a professor at the university.

    The center, which is located in Washington, DC, opened its doors in February 2018. Antony Blinken, whom Biden named as secretary of state, briefly served as its managing director.

    The Ivy League university received $15.8 million in anonymous Chinese gifts that year, including one eye-popping $14.5 million donation in May 2018, records show.

     
    It's hilarious to see people take two markedly different events and desperately try to make something out of people treating them differently.

    I mean, it would have been a bit hard to make the same excuses for Trump wouldn't it? How are you going to say "He returned the documents," when the FBI had to literally raid the place to get them?
    raided the place while discussions with council and DOJ were still taking place you mean.
     
    Again, do we know what conversations were had to Trump's council and the DOJ?

    The first cache was found before the mid-terms, why would the media or the administration that promised above board action since the orange man was so bad not alert us, do you think it had to do with the election?

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/brea...biden-demanding-visitor-logs-from-bidens-home

    I really hope we get to see the guest logs, but I have feeling they are not there or redacted.
    I was just speaking to the apparent differences.
     
    So if the explanation given detailing the difference between the situations doesn’t work then that must mean you think they are the same


    And if that’s true, do you think Biden having these documents is a big deal meaning Trump’s is a big deal too or no big deal, Trump didn’t do anything wrong and neither did Biden?
     
    Yes, they found documents that had been not missed for years and then self-reported in an effort to hide something. OMG you cracked the code!

    As for your first question - that has to be a troll. You simply cannot be this oblivious. Edit: I just noticed. I know it is a troll. You say 1 instance for Trump and 2 for Biden. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

    What an entire 🤦‍♀️ of a post.

    You are essentially saying that Trump taking thousands of documents he knew he wasn’t supposed to have, of which almost 200 were classified, refusing to return them when asked repeatedly for months, ignoring a federal subpoena asking him to return them, directing his lawyer to lie about all of them being returned, directing staff to move the documents to his personal office when the feds kept asking about them is the same thing as Biden having less than 15 total documents that nobody even knew were missing, self-reporting them the day they were found and voluntarily returning them the next day? No you are saying it’s twice for Biden versus once for Trump?

    This is the worst troll ever.
    Oh, I get it. Trump took the docs when he was president so he could declassify. Biden took them when he was VP and had no such presidental privledges. I think both were wrong but I love the fact that you cannot admit your old man did anything wrong. After all, it was just a troll! LOL. You crack me up.
     
    So you can't actually explain it, you just repeat what the media (propaganda arm of the DNC) tells you?
    It might have been explained but not correctly.
    Ok, I’ll explain it, factually and simply:

    Biden—classified documents were found. The archives were immediately contacted, and the documents were returned the next day.

    Trump—NARA contacted Trump to inform him that there were documents he needed to return. For the next year and a half, Trump returned some of the documents, but not all. Trump had his lawyer provide a sworn fake statement that they did not have any more classified documents, and directed someone to move the documents, hiding them from NARA.

    Trumps issue has ZERO to do with him having classified documents st his home. His issue is 100% about refusing to return government records and obstructing efforts to retrieve them.
     
    I was just speaking to the apparent differences.
    Don’t let him gaslight you like that. Yes, we do know a certain amount of the discussions that took place from court filings. It doesn’t look good for Trump, if he were not a former president he would have already been charged and prosecuted and it’s not even close.
     
    Oh, I get it. Trump took the docs when he was president so he could declassify. Biden took them when he was VP and had no such presidental privledges. I think both were wrong but I love the fact that you cannot admit your old man did anything wrong. After all, it was just a troll! LOL. You crack me up.
    VP also has some declassification authority. And Trump took the documents on his way out the door and there’s not one shred of evidence he ever declassified any of them. He was told by his WH counsel not to take the documents and he took them anyway.

    I never said that Biden didn’t do anything wrong - all I said was that the two are not remotely similar and all you do is try to gaslight everyone into thinking what Trump did was the same as what Biden did. Which is a big, fat, lie.
     
    Oh, I get it. Trump took the docs when he was president so he could declassify.
    Trump took the documents to sell them to the highest bidder. You have no clue why Trump stole those documents. My statement is just a true as yours because neither of us know why the documents were taken. What we DO know is that stole them and lied about having them. Biden HAD them as VP and contacted the authorities once it was discovered that they were still in his possession.

    Here's the difference between people who support democrats and Biden and republicans and Trump. Biden supporters have no problem saying prosecute Biden if wrong doing is determined. Republicans make excuses for trump and blame the FBI for an illegal search warrant. Nevermind the fact that trump lied and tried to have his lawyers lie about having them. But then again, lying and making excuses is what you and your crew know best.
     
    Trump took the documents to sell them to the highest bidder.

    I don't believe that. I think it is so much simpler. I think Trump wanted to have them because he thought people would think he was cool if he showed them he had Top Secret stuff.

    Here's the difference between people who support democrats and Biden and republicans and Trump. Biden supporters have no problem saying prosecute Biden if wrong doing is determined. Republicans make excuses for trump and blame the FBI for an illegal search warrant. Nevermind the fact that trump lied and tried to have his lawyers lie about having them. But then again, lying and making excuses is what you and your crew know best.
    You are a little wrong in what you say. You said "trump lied and tried to have his lawyers lie about having them." That statement is false. Trump DID have his lawyers lie about having them, in a sworn statement. And, when the first lawyer refused to do it, he move on to the next one, who was willing to lie on a sworn statement.
     
    I do think Trump just took the documents because to his warped mind he’s entitled to do anything he wants and he thought it would be a status symbol for him to have classified documents. But, remember he took all sorts of documents, even though they belong to the Archive and the American people, not him. We do know however that he knew there were classified documents because he had staff go through the boxes and move those to his personal office to hide them.

    It’s not like I think he wouldn’t sell them if he thought he could get away with it and it would be profitable. I just don’t think he had planned anything like that out.
     


    How do you know Biden inadvertently took the classified documents? You don't. You are just speculating. I understand that's the current Democrat talking point.

    Whether he intentionally took them or not, the trouble is not returning them when they are legally requested. That’s not a Democratic talking point. Taking classified documents alone won’t get anyone prosecuted. Using them in a nefarious manner or not returning them as legally required should get you prosecuted. Trump would not return the documents and forced the FBI to issue a search warrant.

    The Justice Department prosecutes the mishandling of classified documents when there is an aggravating factor present, which are obstruction of justice, storage in a way that risks exposure, willful violation, and disloyalty to United States.

    Based on the current information, Trump meets the obstruction and storage factors. He obstructed for over a year and lied about what he had. He had the documents in places that the public could access. The disloyalty wouldn’t surprise me, but there isn’t proof of that yet. To date, there is no indication that Biden meets any criteria. Those are honest assessments, not democratic talking points.
     
    We don't even know all the facts about what Trump did in that situation and if he had declassified certain documents. Do you remember them saying he had secret US nuclear documents? Everyone freaked our about that. Then we later found out from yet another unnamed source that it wasn't even about the US.
    If Trump had declassified anything, he would’ve had his lawyers argue that in court. He didn’t and he can’t declassify telepathically.
     
    Oh, I get it. Trump took the docs when he was president so he could declassify. Biden took them when he was VP and had no such presidental privledges. I think both were wrong but I love the fact that you cannot admit your old man did anything wrong. After all, it was just a troll! LOL. You crack me up.
    Oh...and let's put a stop to this complete nonsense.

    "He was president so he could declassify."

    That's partially correct. Trump was president, and when he was president, he did have the authority to declassify....SOME things. But, at the same time, it's completely irrelevant to the situation.

    First off, there are at least three types of materials that the president cannot declassify: 1) Items classified by statute or law (US nuclear information is a good example of this, as the Atomic Energy Act makes that information classified. As such, it cannot be declassified by the president. 2) OCA (Original Classification Authority) items. These are items that are classified by individuals, typically outside of the executive branch, who have been granted authority to classify information. Only the OCA who classified something has the authority to declassify that information. (For context, some of the documents found at Trump's home appeared to have OCA markings). 3) Items classified by foreign governments. If a foreign government develops classified information and shares it with us, obviously, the president cannot declassify that information.

    Now, as for why it is irrelevant. It is irrelevant for several reasons.
    1) There is zero evidence that Trump declassified any of the documents, and when asked in court, his response was some BS about not wanting to say because they didn't want to reveal any potential defense in court (the reason I say it is BS is because if Trump provided a list of items that were declassified, and when they were declassified, and who was aware of it; there would be no reason for that to be a defense in court, because no one would bring action against him for having declassified information.)
    2) The laws that are referenced in the warrant affadavit have nothing to do with the classification of the documents. They dealt with "defense information" and obstructing attempts to retrieve the records. If they were declassified, they would still be defense information.
    3) Declassifying the documents doesn't change the ownership. Looking at the reported material related to Iran's Nuclear Program. A classified report about Iran's Nuclear Program is the property of the US government. If Trump declassified that report, that doesn't suddenly make it his property. It still belongs to the US government.
    4) Declassifying the documents is so much worse than him simply having classified documents at his home. Sticking with the Iran Nuclear report. If he has a classified report on Iran's Nuclear program, there is the potential that someone could gain access to his office and gain access to that document. If he declassified that document, then anyone who wants the information can get it simply by asking.
     
    Oh..and something that hasn't been mentioned here (that I see anywhere)...

    The US attorney appointed as a Special Counsel to investigate the Biden documents.....he was appointed as a US Attorney by Donald Trump. I have to believe that's not a coincidence, and was done 100% intentionally by Garland.
     
    Oh..and something that hasn't been mentioned here (that I see anywhere)...

    The US attorney appointed as a Special Counsel to investigate the Biden documents.....he was appointed as a US Attorney by Donald Trump. I have to believe that's not a coincidence, and was done 100% intentionally by Garland.
    So that explains McCarthy plaintively saying - I don’t think we need a Special Counsel for this. Congress should investigate.

    LOL - what a moron.
     

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