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    Attorney General Merrick Garland has assigned the U.S. attorney in Chicago to review documents marked classified that were found at the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement in Washington, two sources with knowledge of the inquiry told CBS News. The roughly 10 documents are from President Biden's vice-presidential office at the center, the sources said. CBS News has learned the FBI is also involved in the U.S. attorney's inquiry.

    The material was identified by personal attorneys for Mr. Biden on Nov. 2, just before the midterm elections, Richard Sauber, special counsel to the president confirmed. The documents were discovered when Mr. Biden's personal attorneys "were packing files housed in a locked closet to prepare to vacate office space at the Penn Biden Center in Washington, D.C.," Sauber said in a statement to CBS News. The documents were contained in a folder that was in a box with other unclassified papers, the sources said. The sources revealed neither what the documents contain nor their level of classification. A source familiar with the matter told CBS News the documents did not contain nuclear secrets.


    ...The White House statement said that it “is cooperating” with the department but did not explain why Mr. Biden’s team waited more than two months to announce the discovery of the documents, which came a week before the midterm congressional elections when the news would have been an explosive last-minute development.

    It also came shortly before Mr. Garland’s Nov. 18 appointment of Jack Smith as a special counsel to take over the criminal investigation into Mr. Trump’s failure to return a large number of classified documents that were sent to his Florida residence and club, Mar-a-Lago, when he left office — even after being subpoenaed.


    A government watchdog is demanding the US attorney probing Hunter Biden in Delaware investigate tens of millions in anonymous donations from China to the University of Pennsylvania, where an academic center is named for his father, President Biden.

    The Ivy League college raked in a total of $54.6 million from 2014 through June 2019 in donations from China, including $23.1 million in anonymous gifts starting in 2016, according to public records.

    Most of the anonymous donations came after the university announced in February 2017 that it would create the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement. Joe Biden, whose term as vice president had just ended, was to lead the center and was also named a professor at the university.

    The center, which is located in Washington, DC, opened its doors in February 2018. Antony Blinken, whom Biden named as secretary of state, briefly served as its managing director.

    The Ivy League university received $15.8 million in anonymous Chinese gifts that year, including one eye-popping $14.5 million donation in May 2018, records show.

     
    So that explains McCarthy plaintively saying - I don’t think we need a Special Counsel for this. Congress should investigate.

    LOL - what a moron.
    McCarthy can’t be trusted to do an honest investigation. Thankfully we have an agency that we can trust.
     
    So that explains McCarthy plaintively saying - I don’t think we need a Special Counsel for this. Congress should investigate.

    LOL - what a moron.
    Its a smart move and perhaps some liberals will decry it as unnecessary, but in these rough, unique political situations, you don't take any chances or leave open any opportunities for the opposing political party who controls Congress to take the sword and use it against you. Even if these two situations are very different events, the optics don't look good, even David Axelrod just mentioned that on Anderson Cooper 360 and even if what Biden's team did here doesn't rise to anything remotely comparable to Trump, bad optics can be cleverly or outrageously manipulated, twisted and deformed into controversies that get weaponized and turned against you in the XP's court of public opibion.

    If Dems still controlled both Houses by a narrow margin, or this occurred maybe a year-and-half ago like in summer 2021, maybe Garland's DOJ doesn't appoint a special prosecutor, but they don't have the option at the moment.
     
    McCarthy can’t be trusted to do an honest investigation. Thankfully we have an agency that we can trust.
    Idealogues exist and have existed in the FBI and law enforcement too. Read up on Hoover's Cointelpro domestic spying program in the 1960's and 70's against Black Panthers, civil rights activists and matches being spied upon using U-2 spy planes, double agents, LBJ had FBI spy on his political enemies like William Fulbright, who began questioning his handling of the Vietnam War, anti-war radicals, SDS and the Weatherman. FBI's alleged and supposed involvement in the JFK, RFK, MLK Jr. assassinations, and even the attempted assassination of George Wallace in 1972.

    MK-Ultra says hi, too.

    Don't be so naive.
     
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    Desperate spin attempt is desperate. LOL

    He’s a lifelong Republican appointed as US Attorney by Trump. Stefanik has proven to be malleable to whatever Trump wants her to say.
     
    I was wrong and I'll eat a bucket of crow.

    But I'm not sure how impartial he will be if this is accurate.


    This is why you don't appoint a special counsel for trivial matters. Even suggesting that the Trump classified document case and the Biden classified document cases are similar is a mistake by the DOJ. You're not going to appease the right wing no matter how dedicated and Republican the special counsel is. All Garland did by appointing a special counsel for this investigation is to give his own administration more unneeded/unwarranted headaches.

    Stupid move. Garland may have made a very good Supreme Court justice, but he's a poor AG. He really doesn't understand the politics of his position or the current Republican party and is more caught up in appearances.
     
    I was wrong and I'll eat a bucket of crow.

    But I'm not sure how impartial he will be if this is accurate.

    LOL
    Stefanik:
    —Hur was in on the corrupt Steele dossier.
    —Cited by DOJIG as having direct knowledge of FBI relationship with Steele.

    Stefaniks own evidence:
    —Hur LIKELY had knowledge of communications. He didn’t even rise to the level of the previous person who was mentioned as “may have been briefed.”

    Nope…he likely knew the FBI talked to Steele, so he’s obviously corrupt.
     
    I don't believe that. I think it is so much simpler.
    I don't know why trump took the documents. I have no proof that he took them to sell to anyone. I was just pointing out that @Farb has no clue as to why they were taken and neither do I.
     
    Ok, I’ll explain it, factually and simply:

    Biden—classified documents were found. The archives were immediately contacted, and the documents were returned the next day.

    Trump—NARA contacted Trump to inform him that there were documents he needed to return. For the next year and a half, Trump returned some of the documents, but not all. Trump had his lawyer provide a sworn fake statement that they did not have any more classified documents, and directed someone to move the documents, hiding them from NARA.

    Trumps issue has ZERO to do with him having classified documents st his home. His issue is 100% about refusing to return government records and obstructing efforts to retrieve them.
    What documents are you talking about with Biden? The ones found at the Chinese sponsored university, his garage stash or the room adjacent to the garage stash?

    Didn't the FBI ask Trump to put a lock on the door while his lawyers and the DOJ worked out the classification? Yes. Then, did they not find more and immediately let the DOJ know and the next day was the raid?

    Was Trump President when he took the docs or VP? Was Biden president or VP when he took the docs? Does the VP or the President have the ability to unclassified docs?

    Yeah, completely above board, no political motivation at all. LOL.
     
    Trump took the documents to sell them to the highest bidder. You have no clue why Trump stole those documents. My statement is just a true as yours because neither of us know why the documents were taken. What we DO know is that stole them and lied about having them. Biden HAD them as VP and contacted the authorities once it was discovered that they were still in his possession.

    Here's the difference between people who support democrats and Biden and republicans and Trump. Biden supporters have no problem saying prosecute Biden if wrong doing is determined. Republicans make excuses for trump and blame the FBI for an illegal search warrant. Nevermind the fact that trump lied and tried to have his lawyers lie about having them. But then again, lying and making excuses is what you and your crew know best.
    I don't have a clue why he took them but you do obviously, he took them to sell to the highest bidder? LOL.

    What about Biden, whey did he take them to 3 different location? To sell to the CCP?

    I have no problem prosecuting any politician, as a matter of fact, I want all to be prosecuted if it even smells like corruption. The only problem now is that federal gobument and the alphabet agencies are 100% weaponized for the DNC. I know you don't agree so no need to defend your FBI and their ilk.
     
    What documents are you talking about with Biden? The ones found at the Chinese sponsored university, his garage stash or the room adjacent to the garage stash?

    Any or all of them. Can you point to any indication that Biden's team was notified about documents and refused to return them? Or, any indication that Biden's team found ANY documents that they didn't immediately returned? Quick question: What is the point of "Chinese sponsored university"? Are you trying to imply that Chinese individuals/companies gave Univ. of Penn money that went to Biden?
    Didn't the FBI ask Trump to put a lock on the door while his lawyers and the DOJ worked out the classification? Yes. Then, did they not find more and immediately let the DOJ know and the next day was the raid?

    No, investigators told Trump's people to put a lock on a door where he had documents secured months before the raid, and there is no indication that anyone involved from the DOJ/NARA had any indications that there were documents marked classified in that area, or that the area contained the records in question. The idea that NARA would make multiple requests for documents to be returned that were presidential records, make a visit to Mar-A-Lago, find the documents in question and say "Oh, don't give them to us, just put a lock on the door" doesn't make much sense.
    Was Trump President when he took the docs or VP? Was Biden president or VP when he took the docs? Does the VP or the President have the ability to unclassified docs?

    Yes, Trump had the ability to declassify SOME documents. But, (see my "let's put this nonsense to a stop" post), that is completely irrelevant as the classification of the documents is not an issue in Trump's case.

    Yeah, completely above board, no political motivation at all. LOL.
    Ok...so it's not above board. Can you give me a clear explanation of how Trump's lawyer providing a sworn statement that they had no more documents there, and having hundreds of documents found at his home (and others found at an offsite storage lot) is above board? Can you explain how Trump is acting in good faith by finding a friendly judge to try and get the DOJ to let Trump have "his" documents back?
     
    The stupid lies that right wingers tell, and the gullibility of folks on here who just believe everything they read is just mind-numbing.

    It really doesn’t say much for our country when it’s this easy to run a propaganda operation and get so many people to just believe every nonsensical theory that is put forward.

    Just the fact that we have people jumping to the defense of Trump on here speaks to some really significant cognitive dissonance. How do people get themselves so absolutely turned around? What makes them look at someone like Trump and say, yep, I believe him, he’s telling the truth?

    This isn’t making fun, I really don’t get people who defend Trump. He’s a sociopath.
     
    I don't have a clue why he took them but you do obviously, he took them to sell to the highest bidder? LOL.

    What about Biden, whey did he take them to 3 different location? To sell to the CCP?

    I have no problem prosecuting any politician, as a matter of fact, I want all to be prosecuted if it even smells like corruption. The only problem now is that federal gobument and the alphabet agencies are 100% weaponized for the DNC. I know you don't agree so no need to defend your FBI and their ilk.
    You cannot possibly believe this nonsense. You’re not that stupid. I keep telling myself that. 🤦‍♀️

    Whoever convinced you that the FBI is in bed with the democrats could sell ice in Alaska in January. It’s one of the absolutely stupidest things I’ve ever read.

    Just looking at this from a common sense perspective - which is most likely:

    the FBI (known to be very conservative and full of Republicans) and the DOJ (same, same) are all in a big conspiracy. It involves thousands of people between the democrats and the two agencies. But Durham, who spent millions of dollars and over two years investigating it couldn’t find anything. Nobody cracked, or turned anyone else in. He brought 2 people to trial for trivial charges and lost both cases. There’s no “there” there.

    Or:

    we have an individual (Trump) who lies as much as he breathes and is extremely corrupt. He has the ability to con people to stick up for him and believe a lot of his lies. Until they don’t, upon which time he starts telling lies about them, too. For whatever reason, mostly for money/ratings, we have an entire cottage industry of people who amplify these lies, because they see him get away with it, or they can ride his coattails, or because they can monetize it, or because they want to destroy our country.
     
    Republicans who called for Attorney General Merrick Garland to name a special prosecutorto oversee a Department of Justice probe into how Obama-era documents bearing classification markings ended up at President Joe Biden’s Delaware home and his former office at a Washington, DC, think tank didn’t have to wait long to see their concerns addressed.

    But the allies of former president Donald Trump who are demanding “equal treatment” for Mr Biden and the twice-impeached ex-president — who is himself facing an ongoing investigation into his alleged unlawful retention of national defence information at his Florida beach club and alleged obstruction of that investigation — are likely to be extremely disappointed.

    On the surface, the Biden investigation now being supervised by special counsel Robert Hur, a well-regarded former Trump appointee who served as the top federal prosecutor in Maryland, bears some similarities to the long-running Trump probe overseen by ex-war crimes prosecutor Jack Smith.

    Both involve chief executives — one current, one former — whose private spaces were found to contain documents with markings denoting them as classified at a level that would have precluded them from being kept anywhere but a secure government facility……..

    But the similarities between the Biden and Trump document probes end there, experts say. Former top law enforcement officials who spoke to The Independent about the new investigation into the Biden documents instead maintained that the probe focusing on Mr Trump involves conduct far more serious than anything his successor could conceivably be accused of.

    Moreover, the experts said a different section of US law would make it all but impossible to prosecute Mr Biden — or potentially anyone else — for mishandling the sensitive documents. Yet at the same time, Mr Hur’s appointment could make it far easier for Mr Smith to justify seeking an indictment of Mr Trump for his conduct…….

    He noted that the same part of the Espionage Act that criminalises removing national defence information also makes it a crime to “[fail] to make prompt report” of such a document when discovered, or to “wilfully retain … and [fail] to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it,” would implicate Mr Trump — not Mr Biden — because the twice-impeached ex-president refused to return documents when asked to do so.

    “The only way you could turn it into a crime is if [Mr Biden] took those documents and gave them to the Russians or gave it to somebody else … and you'd have to show he did that intentionally and wilfully, so it just isn't going to happen here,” he said.

    Another former assistant US attorney, Glenn Kirschner, told The Independent he agreed that the statute of limitations laid out in Section 3282 would preclude criminal charges stemming from the removal of the Obama-era documents.

    He also concurred that Mr Biden could not be charged under Section 793 because his attorneys immediately notified the government upon discovering the documents at issue……..


     

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