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    Attorney General Merrick Garland has assigned the U.S. attorney in Chicago to review documents marked classified that were found at the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement in Washington, two sources with knowledge of the inquiry told CBS News. The roughly 10 documents are from President Biden's vice-presidential office at the center, the sources said. CBS News has learned the FBI is also involved in the U.S. attorney's inquiry.

    The material was identified by personal attorneys for Mr. Biden on Nov. 2, just before the midterm elections, Richard Sauber, special counsel to the president confirmed. The documents were discovered when Mr. Biden's personal attorneys "were packing files housed in a locked closet to prepare to vacate office space at the Penn Biden Center in Washington, D.C.," Sauber said in a statement to CBS News. The documents were contained in a folder that was in a box with other unclassified papers, the sources said. The sources revealed neither what the documents contain nor their level of classification. A source familiar with the matter told CBS News the documents did not contain nuclear secrets.


    ...The White House statement said that it “is cooperating” with the department but did not explain why Mr. Biden’s team waited more than two months to announce the discovery of the documents, which came a week before the midterm congressional elections when the news would have been an explosive last-minute development.

    It also came shortly before Mr. Garland’s Nov. 18 appointment of Jack Smith as a special counsel to take over the criminal investigation into Mr. Trump’s failure to return a large number of classified documents that were sent to his Florida residence and club, Mar-a-Lago, when he left office — even after being subpoenaed.


    A government watchdog is demanding the US attorney probing Hunter Biden in Delaware investigate tens of millions in anonymous donations from China to the University of Pennsylvania, where an academic center is named for his father, President Biden.

    The Ivy League college raked in a total of $54.6 million from 2014 through June 2019 in donations from China, including $23.1 million in anonymous gifts starting in 2016, according to public records.

    Most of the anonymous donations came after the university announced in February 2017 that it would create the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement. Joe Biden, whose term as vice president had just ended, was to lead the center and was also named a professor at the university.

    The center, which is located in Washington, DC, opened its doors in February 2018. Antony Blinken, whom Biden named as secretary of state, briefly served as its managing director.

    The Ivy League university received $15.8 million in anonymous Chinese gifts that year, including one eye-popping $14.5 million donation in May 2018, records show.

     
    Garland is appointing a special counsel. It needed to happen imo.
    It almost had too. Otherwise, people would have looked and noticed how different these were handled and have been handled.

    Nothing will come of it though and it won't prevent future idiots from doing it again. Our political leaders don't have to play by the same set of rules we peasants do and they really want to keep that hidden for as long as possible. I can't blame them.
     
    It almost had too. Otherwise, people would have looked and noticed how different these were handled and have been handled.

    Nothing will come of it though and it won't prevent future idiots from doing it again. Our political leaders don't have to play by the same set of rules we peasants do and they really want to keep that hidden for as long as possible. I can't blame them.
    Yeah and it doesn't surprise me much either as Garland doesn't strike me as someone who'd be keen to the idea of being viewed as a heavily partisan operator.
     
    It's ridiculous for Garland to appoint a special counsel for this. The both sides-ism going on in the media is stupid too. Trump’s situation with classified documents is completely different.

    What a waste of time and money for something that will be a nothing burger.
     
    It's ridiculous for Garland to appoint a special counsel for this. The both sides-ism going on in the media is stupid too. Trump’s situation with classified documents is completely different.

    What a waste of time and money for something that will be a nothing burger.
    If it's a nothing burger I'd imagine, relatively speaking anyway, there won't be an enormous amount of time and money wasted on it.

    Given the extraordinary circumstances I just think it's what needed to happen here.

    Edit: As always, would love to hear @superchuck500's opinion.
     
    It's ridiculous for Garland to appoint a special counsel for this. The both sides-ism going on in the media is stupid too. Trump’s situation with classified documents is completely different.

    What a waste of time and money for something that will be a nothing burger.
    What makes the 1 instance for Trump and the 2 for VP Biden so different?

    Another thought, why are there Biden Lawyers going around to all his private offices and checking for documents? Sounds like something fishy is going on and they are trying to get ahead of it.
    Perhaps part of the deal for the 'big guy' was supplying some classified info to the CCP for the payments and purchase of 'art'?
    You might laugh, but it that so out of bounds as Trump selling nuclear secrets to the Kremlin?
     
    If it's a nothing burger I'd imagine, relatively speaking anyway, there won't be an enormous amount of time and money wasted on it.

    John Durham would like to have a conversation with you.

    Given the extraordinary circumstances I just think it's what needed to happen here.

    Edit: As always, would love to hear @superchuck500's opinion.

    I don't really see anything extraordinary about this. The investigation that was currently taking place was more than sufficient. The only reason for Garland to appoint a special council is because he's extraordinarily concerned about not being seen as a partisan. Which he is extremely susceptible to given his extreme reluctance and the amount of time and evidence it took him to appoint one for all of Trump's crime as opposed to how quickly he appointed one for this. There is no reason to appoint a special council right now other than because of the rabid speculation and hyperbolic coverage of the media and the Republicans predictable reaction to it.

    Just another example of Democrats fighting with one hand tied behind their back. Much like the Hunter Biden laptop story, this is one I'll be ignoring unless something of actual consequence happens.
     
    What makes the 1 instance for Trump and the 2 for VP Biden so different?

    Another thought, why are there Biden Lawyers going around to all his private offices and checking for documents? Sounds like something fishy is going on and they are trying to get ahead of it.
    Perhaps part of the deal for the 'big guy' was supplying some classified info to the CCP for the payments and purchase of 'art'?
    You might laugh, but it that so out of bounds as Trump selling nuclear secrets to the Kremlin?
    this has been explained multiple times, and you know that
    Two different people are observed to be driving recklessly. One goes ahead and pulls over but the other one keeps driving until the spike strips are deployed. Who do we think is in more trouble?

    It's not an exact analogy, I know, but close enough to get the point I think.
     
    What makes the 1 instance for Trump and the 2 for VP Biden so different?

    Another thought, why are there Biden Lawyers going around to all his private offices and checking for documents? Sounds like something fishy is going on and they are trying to get ahead of it.
    Perhaps part of the deal for the 'big guy' was supplying some classified info to the CCP for the payments and purchase of 'art'?
    You might laugh, but it that so out of bounds as Trump selling nuclear secrets to the Kremlin?
    Yes, they found documents that had been not missed for years and then self-reported in an effort to hide something. OMG you cracked the code!

    As for your first question - that has to be a troll. You simply cannot be this oblivious. Edit: I just noticed. I know it is a troll. You say 1 instance for Trump and 2 for Biden. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

    What an entire 🤦‍♀️ of a post.

    You are essentially saying that Trump taking thousands of documents he knew he wasn’t supposed to have, of which almost 200 were classified, refusing to return them when asked repeatedly for months, ignoring a federal subpoena asking him to return them, directing his lawyer to lie about all of them being returned, directing staff to move the documents to his personal office when the feds kept asking about them is the same thing as Biden having less than 15 total documents that nobody even knew were missing, self-reporting them the day they were found and voluntarily returning them the next day? No you are saying it’s twice for Biden versus once for Trump?

    This is the worst troll ever.
     
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    I see this as Garland understanding that if he is to move on Trump, he can’t appear partisan (even though it will be seen as such by some no matter what)

    A special investigation is correct. If and when this turns out to be nothing, it will be hard to spin as a problem when Trump gets indicted.

    I hope the counsel selected is a hard arse. I hope they look up hit arse for documents and find nothing. If they find he has been doing what Farb says he is, put him in jail. If (when) he isn’t, then there can be no whataboutism.
     
    I'm sorry. It's just hilarious to see you guys make all these different excuses for Biden especially compared to what yall said when Trump did it.
    It's hilarious to see people take two markedly different events and desperately try to make something out of people treating them differently.

    I mean, it would have been a bit hard to make the same excuses for Trump wouldn't it? How are you going to say "He returned the documents," when the FBI had to literally raid the place to get them?
     
    I see this as Garland understanding that if he is to move on Trump, he can’t appear partisan (even though it will be seen as such by some no matter what)

    A special investigation is correct. If and when this turns out to be nothing, it will be hard to spin as a problem when Trump gets indicted.

    I hope the counsel selected is a hard arse. I hope they look up hit arse for documents and find nothing. If they find he has been doing what Farb says he is, put him in jail. If (when) he isn’t, then there can be no whataboutism.
    Better and more concisely said that anything I've posted and my feelings exactly.
     
    What makes the 1 instance for Trump and the 2 for VP Biden so different?

    Another thought, why are there Biden Lawyers going around to all his private offices and checking for documents? Sounds like something fishy is going on and they are trying to get ahead of it.
    Since no one else has asked, I wil. What is the "1 instance for Trump"? The hundreds of documents at Mar-A-Lago that he refused to return for over a year? Or the documents that were found at an offsite storage facility.

    But, you want the difference? Here's a very clear difference that is going on right now. It was reported today that the lawyers and investigators who found Biden's documents were questioned by DOJ agents. On the other hand, Trump hired investigators to search his properties, they found classified documents, and DOJ asked for the names of those individuals so that they could question them, and Trump refused to give their names. The DOJ had to go to court, and get a judge to ORDER Trump to turn over the names, and as far as I can find, a week later, they still have not complied. So, there is one HUGE difference. Trump hired people who got access to classified information that they did not have a need to know, and he will not provide those individuals to be questioned.

    Oh, and about Biden's lawyers? Why wouldn't they be able to go around checking for documents? Trump's people had over a year to do that, and they apparently couldn't find hundreds of documents that the FBI found in a couple of hours. But, I do understand why you would say that it sounds fishy, you know, since Trump literally had his people hide the documents he had to keep the FBI from finding them.
     
    I understand this perspective, we just don't live in this reality, so it won't matter.

    I see this as Garland understanding that if he is to move on Trump, he can’t appear partisan (even though it will be seen as such by some no matter what)

    Garland will be seen as partisan no matter what he does.

    A special investigation is correct. If and when this turns out to be nothing, it will be hard to spin as a problem when Trump gets indicted.

    Will it? This is already spun. Republicans will use this to dismiss any (if they ever happen) of Trump's indictments regardless.

    I hope the counsel selected is a hard arse. I hope they look up hit arse for documents and find nothing. If they find he has been doing what Farb says he is, put him in jail. If (when) he isn’t, then there can be no whataboutism.

    There will always be whataboutism, it doesn't matter how hard or soft this special council goes.

    My point is that Garland shouldn't have placated either the hyperbolic coverage of the media or the outrage machine of the right wing. Him and the DOJ gain nothing from doing so. He should have let the investigation continue and made decisions based on reason. And reason, at this stage does not dictate that a special council is required for this investigation.
     
    To be honest, this makes me think that Garland is thinking that indictments are forthcoming in the MarALago case.

    If he felt that no indictments were ahead, I think there would be no special counsel here, and they would simply say that no charges would be filed against Trump or his people.
     
    Two different people are observed to be driving recklessly. One goes ahead and pulls over but the other one keeps driving until the spike strips are deployed. Who do we think is in more trouble?

    It's not an exact analogy, I know, but close enough to get the point I think.
    Again, do we know what conversations were had to Trump's council and the DOJ?

    The first cache was found before the mid-terms, why would the media or the administration that promised above board action since the orange man was so bad not alert us, do you think it had to do with the election?

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/brea...biden-demanding-visitor-logs-from-bidens-home

    I really hope we get to see the guest logs, but I have feeling they are not there or redacted.
     

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