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    Optimus Prime

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    Everything I've seen and heard says that the split second Donald Trump is no longer president there will be flood of charges waiting for him

    And if he resigns and Pence pardons him there are a ton of state charges as an understudy waiting in the wings if the fed charges can't perform

    What do you think the likelihood of there being a jail sentence?

    In every movie and TV show I've ever seen, in every political thriller I've ever read about a criminal and corrupt president there is ALWAYS some version of;

    "We can't do that to the country",

    "A trial would tear the country apart",

    "For the nation to heal we need to move on" etc.

    Would life imitate art?

    Even with the charges, even with the proof the charges are true will the powers that be decide, "we can't do that to the country"?
     
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    BullSheetBuddha said:
    I know this to be true also. I have a friend who is a pastor in Texas. Great guy. He supports Trump 100%. I can't understand it for the life of me but I never say anything.
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    I'm sorry, but I think you have misjudged him.

    He's not a great guy if he supports Trump 100%.

    It's simply not possible and it's time, imho, that we stop pretending it is.
     
    More on the records act

    And “no nefarious intent” didn’t seem to matter when it came to Hillary and her emails
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    President Donald Trump improperly removed multiple boxes from the White House that were retrieved by the National Archives and Records Administration last month from his Mar-a-Lago residence because they contained documents and other items that should have been turned over to the agency, according to three people familiar with the visit.


    The recovery of the boxes from Trump’s Florida resort raises new concerns about his adherence to the Presidential Records Act, which requires the preservation of memos, letters, notes, emails, faxes and other written communications related to a president’s official duties.


    Trump advisers deny any nefarious intent and said the boxes contained mementos, gifts, letters from world leaders and other correspondence. The items included correspondence with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, which Trump once described as “love letters,” as well as a letter left for his successor by President Barack Obama, according to two people familiar with the contents………

     
    dtc said:
    I'm sorry, but I think you have misjudged him.

    He's not a great guy if he supports Trump 100%.

    It's simply not possible and it's time, imho, that we stop pretending it is.
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    It's pretty hard to misjudge a guy you trained with for 6 months then served in combat with in the same foxhole, on the same patrols, on the same ambushes, etc., etc.
     
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    All it takes is one conviction.

    He can dodge the other 99, but if he's convicted on the 100th, he still goes to prison.
     
    BullSheetBuddha said:
    It's pretty hard to misjudge a guy you trained with for 6 months then served in combat with in the same foxhole, on the same patrols, on the same ambushes, etc., etc.
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    Well, maybe. I've never been in a foxhole, but that was then and this is now.

    Now, he's a scum bag and a danger to society who is supporting a man who seems more interested in himself and his own petty fights than the good of the nation he was elected to serve and protect.

    Perhaps it's like BC and AD for your pal. Maybe back when he was in fox hole with you he was great. Now, he's not, but it's possible he could resurrect whatever made him good if he comes around. We can still have hope.
     
    Optimus Prime said:
    More on the records act

    And “no nefarious intent” didn’t seem to matter when it came to Hillary and her emails
    ===================

    President Donald Trump improperly removed multiple boxes from the White House that were retrieved by the National Archives and Records Administration last month from his Mar-a-Lago residence because they contained documents and other items that should have been turned over to the agency, according to three people familiar with the visit.


    The recovery of the boxes from Trump’s Florida resort raises new concerns about his adherence to the Presidential Records Act, which requires the preservation of memos, letters, notes, emails, faxes and other written communications related to a president’s official duties.


    Trump advisers deny any nefarious intent and said the boxes contained mementos, gifts, letters from world leaders and other correspondence. The items included correspondence with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, which Trump once described as “love letters,” as well as a letter left for his successor by President Barack Obama, according to two people familiar with the contents………

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    I want to see protestors at every rally screaming "Lock him Up" until he's actually in prison. And, I am completely unwilling to tolerate the hypocrisy of the sanctimonious right if they defend or deflect.

    "What about her emails?" should proceed the judge's sentence on Trump.
     
    dtc said:
    Well, maybe. I've never been in a foxhole, but that was then and this is now.

    Now, he's a scum bag and a danger to society who is supporting a man who seems more interested in himself and his own petty fights than the good of the nation he was elected to serve and protect.

    Perhaps it's like BC and AD for your pal. Maybe back when he was in fox hole with you he was great. Now, he's not, but it's possible he could resurrect whatever made him good if he comes around. We can still have hope.
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    You sound like Trump.
     
    So many things swirling around we nearly forgot about the mueller report
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    It's time for the Biden Justice Department to issue a report on the Mueller report.
There are multiple criminal investigations currently swirling around former president Donald Trump.

    The Justice Department is investigating the Jan. 6 riot in Washington and attempts to overturn the 2020 presidential election, with Attorney General Merrick Garland vowing to pursue those criminally responsible “at any level.”

    Prosecutors in Georgia are investigating Trump’s alleged efforts to interfere with the election results in that state. New York prosecutors are investigating Trump and his businesses for potential fraud.


    But nearly three years ago, special counsel Robert S. Mueller III presented an exhaustive report detailing almost a dozen instances of possible obstruction of justice by Trump in connection with the investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

    The five-year statute of limitations on the first such instance — Trump’s alleged request to then-FBI Director James B. Comey to drop the criminal investigation of disgraced former national security adviser Michael Flynn — expires on Feb. 14.

    Other acts of possible obstruction soon will be similarly time-barred.
The fate of Mueller’s report when it was released is by now a familiar story. The special counsel outlined damning evidence of Trump’s possible criminal acts.

    But he decided that in light of the Justice Department policy against indicting a sitting president, he would not make a “traditional prosecutorial judgment” about whether charges were justified. The report therefore did not accuse Trump of a crime, but pointedly noted that it also did not exonerate him………

     
    BullSheetBuddha said:
    What on earth are you talking about? Are you inexplicably saying that the only way you can read a guy you trained with and served in an infantry unit in Vietnam with is by lying about how you remember him and what you observed?
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    The action is what it is. Any decision is an act in and of itself despite the previous bonds or actions.
     
    BullSheetBuddha said:
    What on earth are you talking about? Are you inexplicably saying that the only way you can read a guy you trained with and served in an infantry unit in Vietnam with is by lying about how you remember him and what you observed?
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    DTC and HB Lowery are overlooking service and age. You are listed here as being 78. That's about right for a Vietnam Vet.

    It's is completely possible for a person to have been a great person all of their life, but in older age to have been taken and lead astray by a creepy conman like Trump. None of that changes having been a great person in life, nor negates that such a person continue to be respected despite what are understandable errors.

    Folks should blame the conman and not his victims. No person, especially no honorable veteran, should be disrespected during their elder years over strong opinions about politics.
     
    SamAndreas said:
    DTC and HB Lowery are overlooking service and age. You are listed here as being 78. That's about right for a Vietnam Vet.

    It's is completely possible for a person to have been a great person all of their life, but in older age to have been taken and lead astray by a creepy conman like Trump. None of that changes having been a great person in life, nor negates that such a person continue to be respected despite what are understandable errors.

    Folks should blame the conman and not his victims. No person, especially no honorable veteran, should be disrespected during their elder years over strong opinions about politics.
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    I'm overlooking nothing. There are a plethora of aging white guys who used to be decent human beings and then morphed into racist wads.
     
    H B Lowrey said:
    The action is what it is. Any decision is an act in and of itself despite the previous bonds or actions.
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    No. His opinion about what best serves this country is his opinion. That opinion has nothing to do with what lies at his core as a human being. I might not like his opinion, but that in no way alters what I know him to be. I was against the war in Vietnam, but I served because other Americans were serving and dying. He supported the war, but in the final analysis, he served because other Americans were fighting and dying also. While our opinions about the war differed, our actions were the same.

    It might not fit your current world view but yes, some of those who support Trump are decent people who can be trusted in the direst of circumstances to come to your aid.
     

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