Does Trump ever do any jail time? (4 Viewers)

[Optimus Prime]

Everything I've seen and heard says that the split second Donald Trump is no longer president there will be flood of charges waiting for him

And if he resigns and Pence pardons him there are a ton of state charges as an understudy waiting in the wings if the fed charges can't perform

What do you think the likelihood of there being a jail sentence?

In every movie and TV show I've ever seen, in every political thriller I've ever read about a criminal and corrupt president there is ALWAYS some version of;

"We can't do that to the country",

"A trial would tear the country apart",

"For the nation to heal we need to move on" etc.

Would life imitate art?

Even with the charges, even with the proof the charges are true will the powers that be decide, "we can't do that to the country"?

 

[DaveXA]

True. But that won't really matter.

Plus, they'll use everything as proof the judge, prosecutor, jury pool, etc. is biased against Trump. They've done that so much already with everything, it's already become the boy (or sycophants) who cried wolf and is easily dismissed.

Indeed.

 

[fooferdoggie]

since trump has used up most of the lawyers he will never have good representation.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

since trump has used up most of the lawyers he will never have good representation.

He's one firing spree away from being stuck with Alexander Shunnarah. lol

 

[SystemShock]

Lil' gossip from SotB... John Kerry was in MX last week to speak to the MX president. Official word was to talk about climate change, unofficial word in MX is that Kerry reminded the MX president of extradition treaties and what could happen if MX harbored Trump, should it come to that.

 

[SamAndreas]

This is worth watching:

 

[DaveXA]

This is worth watching:

Good clip. I love SE Cupp's takes.

 

[SamAndreas]

since trump has used up most of the lawyers he will never have good representation.

Welcome. I had kids, I remember Foofer:



Here's an avatar possibility:

 

[Incumbent]

This is stupid and dangerous and not at all surprising. And he’ll feign disbelief when people accuse him of goading violence. Those who engage in this rhetoric know exactly what they are doing.

Tucker Carlson: "Probably not the best time to give up your AR-15s. And I think most people know that."

 

[DaveXA]

This is stupid and dangerous and not at all surprising. And he’ll feign disbelief when people accuse him of goading violence. Those who engage in this rhetoric know exactly what they are doing.

Tucker Carlson: "Probably not the best time to give up your AR-15s. And I think most people know that."

Well, I mean, it's typical Tucker.

 

[Optimus Prime]

In the tumultuous, multifaceted case of Donald J Trump versus the people of the United States, the biggest question is why this former president, political con artist and serial offender is not already in jail.

Trump will be charged this week in Manhattan over alleged “hush money” payments to a former porn star. This action, both welcome and overdue, makes him the first US president to be criminally indicted.

Yet twice-impeached Trump stands accused of a string of infinitely more serious, well-documented crimes, including a violent attempt to overthrow the government. The continuing mystery is why justice is so long in coming.

The full Trump charge sheet reads like a horror novel in which democracy is murdered. In the weeks following his clear-cut defeat by Joe Biden in November 2020, Trump did everything he could to subvert the result, legally and illegally, by making baseless accusations of fraud. This is not in dispute.

Not disputed, either, is a taped telephone conversation on 2 January 2021 between Trump and Brad Raffensperger, Georgia’s secretary of state, in which the then president pressed the latter “to find 11,780 votes” – sufficient to cancel Biden’s victory in the key swing state.

Why has Trump not been criminally charged in what appears to be an open-and-shut case of shameless election interference? A special grand jury in Atlanta has recommended the prosecution of all involved in the illegal lobbying of Raffensperger.

Perhaps the courage shown by Manhattan’s district attorney, Alvin Bragg, in indicting Trump will inspire his Fulton County counterpart, Fani Willis – and other state and federal prosecutors – to follow suit without further delays. If this case had been conducted in a timely manner, Trump might be behind bars now……..

The Observer view: Donald Trump deserves to face the full force of justice | Observer editorial

The United States was founded on the rule of law. It must not now flinch from upholding it

www.theguardian.com

 

[Incumbent]

Well, I mean, it's typical Tucker.

Agreed and I acknowledged it isn’t surprising. Do you agree it’s stupid and dangerous? It’s not really any consolation that it’s typical. This kind of rhetoric is actually a big part of the problem. I first became aware of Tucker’s latest comments in a montage of conservative politicians and pundits driving the narrative that the charges are a Soros-funded conspiracy to usher in an authoritarian state. Throw in overt nods to violence and these people know what they are promoting.

 

[SFIDC3]

Agreed and I acknowledged it isn’t surprising. Do you agree it’s stupid and dangerous? It’s not really any consolation that it’s typical. This kind of rhetoric is actually a big part of the problem. I first became aware of Tucker’s latest comments in a montage of conservative politicians and pundits driving the narrative that the charges are a Soros-funded conspiracy to usher in an authoritarian state. Throw in overt nods to violence and these people know what they are promoting.

Yep.....even after all has been revealed (that FOX and their BS artists Carlson, Hannity, et al) in a court preceding that they intentionally lied/mislead/mad false statements on air for "ratings"? There are still millions of morons who will believe them no matter what they say because they are part of the right wing cult.....it's utter insanity.....

I'm not necessarily a democrat by choice and it's disturbing and sad that only one side of the aisle has kept at least a semblance of sanity.....so as a voter the best I can do is vote for the sane candidate.....that's what it has come to IMO......

 

[DaveXA]

Agreed and I acknowledged it isn’t surprising. Do you agree it’s stupid and dangerous? It’s not really any consolation that it’s typical. This kind of rhetoric is actually a big part of the problem. I first became aware of Tucker’s latest comments in a montage of conservative politicians and pundits driving the narrative that the charges are a Soros-funded conspiracy to usher in an authoritarian state. Throw in overt nods to violence and these people know what they are promoting.

For sure.

 

[nolaspe]

 

[Optimus Prime]

The indictment of former president Donald Trump by a New York City grand jury has left Republicans bouncing between expressing outrage and confidently predicting that the unprecedented charges against the former chief executive will propel him back to the White House after next year’s presidential election.

It has also sent authorities scrambling to address the possibility of violence from disaffected supporters of the twice-impeached former president, with New York Police Department brass ordering every single sworn officer to report to work in full uniform to deal with possible civil disturbances.

Officials are also on high alert for threats against Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, the man who has now become be the first prosecutor to ever obtain an indictment against a former president after a long-running probe into a 2016 hush money scheme to keep adult film actress Stormy Daniels from spilling the beans about a decade-old liaison before voters went to the polls that year.

A Manhattan grand jury voted to indict Mr Trump earlier this week, but because the indictment is still under seal it is currently unclear what the charges against him are. Multiple reports have indicated that Mr Trump is facing more than 30 counts related to business fraud.

Recent reporting in The New York Times and other outlets noted that the former president has said he relishes the idea of being arrested and paraded before the press in a “perp walk” spectacle because he believes it will juice his support in the Republican presidential primary and solidify his chances of returning to the White House after next year’s general election.

But multiple people who have been close to Mr Trump in the past and understand his way of thinking say the confidence he projects in interviews and in public appearances belies a complete inability to grasp what it means for him to become a defendant in a criminal case.

These former Trumpworld insiders told The Independent the ex-president’s decades of evading responsibility for his actions and his past ability to neutralise legal jeopardy with a combination of bluster and litigation tactics has left him incredibly ill-equipped for what lies ahead of him now that the Mahattan grand jury has voted for an indictment.

One such ex-insider is Mary Trump, the bestselling author and trained clinical psychologist who happens to be Mr Trump’s niece.

Dr Trump, who in her 2020 tell-all Too Much and Never Enough said her uncle’s “pathologies are so complex and his behaviors so often inexplicable that coming up with an accurate and comprehensive diagnosis would require a full battery of psychological and neuropsychological tests that he’ll never sit for,” told The Independent in a phone interview that the bravado he might be presenting to receptive journalists will vanish once he is actually charged with a crime. Dr Trump spoke to The Independent ahead of the charges against the former president.

“I think a large part of what he does is that he preamps and he deflects … his ego is very, very fragile, and much of what he does is in service to protecting it, and one of the greatest dangers for him is to be humiliated,” she said………

Trump’s posture over indictment isn’t fooling these insiders

Former insiders and confidantes of Donald Trump tell Andrew Feinberg the ex-president is incapable of understanding that he can’t intimidate or delay his way out of criminal charges now that he has been indicted

www.independent.co.uk

 

[nolaspe]

This left me ded lmao... President Fraud's own lawyer called him that on live tv lol...

 

[nolaspe]

He's now in custody...

 

[MT15]

On a related note, Trump lost his appeal to block Meadows and others from testifying

Federal appeals court denies Trump's emergency bid to stop ex-aides from testifying in Jan. 6 probe — CNN Politics

Former President Donald Trump's legal team has lost a bid for emergency help from the federal appeals court in Washington, DC, to block some of his closest advisers from testifying about him to a grand jury, including former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, according to a new court filing.

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