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    Very sobering article
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    If you know people still in denial about the crisis of American democracy, kindly remove their heads from the sand long enough to receive this message: A startling new finding by one of the nation’s top authorities on foreign civil wars says we are on the cusp of our own.

    Barbara F. Walter, a political science professorat the University of California at San Diego, serves on a CIA advisory panel called the Political Instability Task Force that monitors countries around the world and predicts which of them are most at risk of deteriorating into violence.

    By law, the task force can’t assess what’s happening within the United States, but Walter, a longtime friend who has spent her career studying conflicts in Syria, Lebanon, Northern Ireland, Sri Lanka, the Philippines, Rwanda, Angola, Nicaragua and elsewhere, applied the predictive techniques herself to this country.

    Her bottom line: “We are closer to civil war than any of us would like to believe.” She lays out the argument in detail in her must-read book, “How Civil Wars Start,” out in January. “No one wants to believe that their beloved democracy is in decline, or headed toward war,” she writes.

    But, “if you were an analyst in a foreign country looking at events in America — the same way you’d look at events in Ukraine or the Ivory Coast or Venezuela — you would go down a checklist, assessing each of the conditions that make civil war likely.

    And what you would find is that the United States, a democracy founded more than two centuries ago, has entered very dangerous territory.”

    Indeed, the United States has already gone through what the CIA identifies as the first two phases of insurgency — the “pre-insurgency” and “incipient conflict” phases — and only time will tell whether the final phase, “open insurgency,” began with the sacking of the Capitol by Donald Trump supporters on Jan. 6.

    Things deteriorated so dramatically under Trump, in fact, that the United States no longer technically qualifies as a democracy. Citing the Center for Systemic Peace’s “Polity” data set — the one the CIA task force has found to be most helpful in predicting instability and violence — Walter writes that the United States is now an “anocracy,” somewhere between a democracy and an autocratic state.

    U.S. democracy had received the Polity index’s top score of 10, or close to it, for much of its history. But in the five years of the Trump era, it tumbled precipitously into the anocracy zone; by the end of his presidency, the U.S. score had fallen to a 5, making the country a partial democracy for the first time since 1800.

    “We are no longer the world’s oldest continuous democracy,” Walter writes. “That honor is now held by Switzerland, followed by New Zealand, and then Canada. We are no longer a peer to nations like Canada, Costa Rica, and Japan, which are all rated a +10 on the Polity index.”…….

    Others have reached similar findings. The Stockholm-based International Institute for Democracy and Electoral Assistance put the United States on a list of “backsliding democracies” in a report last month.

    “The United States, the bastion of global democracy, fell victim to authoritarian tendencies itself," the report said.

    And a new survey by the academic consortium Bright Line Watch found that 17 percent of those who identify strongly as Republicans support the use of violence to restore Trump to power, and 39 percent favor doing everything possible to prevent Democrats from governing effectively……



     
    Yes, for a month I was feverishly working on a retort for you.
    I don't even know what we were discussing anymore.

    Retorts are generally sharp and witty. That's why I said 'response'. And this one took two months. I look forward to your response on Cinco de Mayo.
     
    Retorts are generally sharp and witty. That's why I said 'response'. And this one took two months. I look forward to your response on Cinco de Mayo.
    Look, I think you are fun to talk with too, but you keeping track of when I am online and if I chat with you is getting a little stalkerish. Maybe lets just go back a step or two for a while. It is not you, it is me.
     
    Look, I think you are fun to talk with too, but you keeping track of when I am online and if I chat with you is getting a little stalkerish. Maybe lets just go back a step or two for a while. It is not you, it is me.

    This might be the most true thing you've ever said. All I was doing was pointing out that you never stick around to defend your posts, and when you do come back, you never address the substance of the posts you reply to. To be far, though, you don't do that when you are here, either.
     
    This might be the most true thing you've ever said. All I was doing was pointing out that you never stick around to defend your posts, and when you do come back, you never address the substance of the posts you reply to. To be far, though, you don't do that when you are here, either.
    So, did you have something to discuss or more personal attacks? And generally my posts dont need to be defended as they are common sense as of 10 mins ago.
     
    So, did you have something to discuss or more personal attacks? And generally my posts dont need to be defended as they are common sense as of 10 mins ago.

    I did, but you ignored it repeatedly. It's what you always do.
     

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