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[Farb]

For all the things related to the Biden/Harris Administration and their latest hits and misses

https://www.dailywire.com/news/whit...gedly-sexually-harassing-threatening-reporter

Interesting story, looks like 'only the best people' didn't stop with the new administration.

 

[H B Lowrey]

If there’s no hope of ever even changing an opinion of yours, why are you here? What is the point of a discussion forum if not to hear other opinions and consider them?

If you’re just here to give your opinion and ignore everyone else’s you’re not in the right spot. You’re looking for a propaganda outlet, not a discussion forum.

He's fecklessly attempting to be a propaganda outlet.

 

[bdb13]

There's no legit reason anyone needs to leave the house or take off work to vote.

I agree. shirt, living in FL I don't think I've ever actually gone to the polling location for a general election.

 

[insidejob]

Why would it had to be done through the DMV? Why wouldn't it be implemented like in most places, as an independent, autonomous agency that only does voting IDs? That's how it is done in MX, through small modules.

I'm not saying it HAS TO BE, just how IT IS. And has always been in Louisiana. We don't have any such thing as a voting ID. And if you want a state ID that isn't a driver's license, you're still going to the OMV.

 

[insidejob]

I did and I didn't see how it explained how she was able to have jobs, cash checks, and live in a city without an ID. Did I miss it, or was this a silly a hypothetical based on the feels?

You are acting like ID's never expire. And yes, once expired, this hypothetical person who works 80 hours a week could still cash checks (corner stores do it all the time) without an ID if they've lived in the same area for a long time.

 

[SystemShock]

I'm not saying it HAS TO BE, just how IT IS. And has always been in Louisiana. We don't have any such thing as a voting ID. And if you want a state ID that isn't a driver's license, you're still going to the OMV.

I understand how it is right now with State ID's, but a voting ID doesn't have to be a State ID, and actually, it shouldn't be. It should be a national ID, much like a passport, managed by an autonomous, non-partisan entity.

That's how it is in MX; the INE (National Electorate Institute) is the non-partisan institution that sets standards for elections nationwide, including voter IDs. They have their own offices/modules, some of them mobile, and that's all they do, verify who you are, where you live, and give you a nationally recognized ID. It actually has become the de facto ID in MX.

 

[MT15]

You are acting like ID's never expire. And yes, once expired, this hypothetical person who works 80 hours a week could still cash checks (corner stores do it all the time) without an ID if they've lived in the same area for a long time.

I don’t know how many people still cash checks anyway? I cannot remember the last time I did that. I suppose poorer people may do it more, but I’m not sure about that. Even food stamps are electronic now around me. My employer only used direct deposit, been that way for years.

 

[insidejob]

I understand how it is right now with State ID's, but a voting ID doesn't have to be a State ID, and actually, it shouldn't be. It should be a national ID, much like a passport, managed by an autonomous, non-partisan entity.

That's how it is in MX; the INE (National Electorate Institute) is the non-partisan institution that sets standards for elections nationwide, including voter IDs. They have their own offices/modules, some of them mobile, and that's all they do, verify who you are, where you live, and give you a nationally recognized ID. It actually has become the de facto ID in MX.

If they forced passports to be the ID used for voting, you'd have a real outcry on your hands with the cost and hoops you have to jump through to get a passport. And there are lots of people ineligible for passports who are eligible to vote.

I'm not personally invested in Voter ID. I have a license and can vote. If they forced passports to vote, then I'd have a dog in this fight because I never renewed my passport when it expired.

 

[MT15]

Inside: I don’t think he meant to use passports, only that it would be a national ID like a passport is. It would have to be free and easy to get. Also, with all the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the right about the suggestion of a vaccine passport, I cannot imagine they would get behind a piece of federal ID. Imagine the conspiracy theories they would spin around that.

 

[SystemShock]

I’m not so against requiring voter ID to vote, as long as 3 stipulations are followed.

1. Voter IDs must be free.
2. Every polling precinct should have at least 1 picture ID printer at the location so anyone can get an ID while voting.
3. The first time one does not have a picture ID, they verify their identity as they were able to before picture ID became a requirement and get a free ID on the spot. Any time after that, their vote is provisional until they supply a voter ID or get another one made.

In MX the ID's are free. As for #2, that would defeat the purpose of the ID. For example, IDs can be printed of dead people and used to vote for them on the spot. And you want to mitigate/eliminate any reason for even accusations of fraud... and when you hail from MX, you know everything there is to know about actual voting fraud

 

[samiam5211]

I don't think the federal government would have the authority to issue a "voter ID", because elections and voting are state powers.

They could create one, but states would not have to accept it.

 

[insidejob]

I don't think the federal government would have the authority to issue a "voter ID", because elections and voting are state powers.

They could create one, but states would not have to accept it.

Good point.

Didn't the federal government pass some law saying that all states had to have the driver's licenses up to "Real ID" standards by a certain date if they wanted to be accepted to fly? I know Louisiana missed the boat on that when the timeline was announced. We were just one of a few states not to make the change in time. I renewed my license by mail last time and it was for 6 years so I have no clue what a new LA driver's license looks like or if it meets the Real ID standard as I haven't used it to fly.

 

[SystemShock]

If they forced passports to be the ID used for voting, you'd have a real outcry on your hands with the cost and hoops you have to jump through to get a passport. And there are lots of people ineligible for passports who are eligible to vote.

I'm not personally invested in Voter ID. I have a license and can vote. If they forced passports to vote, then I'd have a dog in this fight because I never renewed my passport when it expired.

I didn't say that passports should be forced as voting IDs. I meant like a passport, in that a passport is a federal ID, its requirements are standard nationwide, and they are overseen by a single federal entity.

I don't know that I'd qualify the process of obtaining a passport as "hoops to jump".

 

[insidejob]

"I don't know that I'd qualify the process of obtaining a passport as hoops to jump".

Because you've never had to get an expedited one in New Orleans.

 

[SystemShock]

I don't think the federal government would have the authority to issue a "voter ID", because elections and voting are state powers.

They could create one, but states would not have to accept it.

Isn't the U.S. Constitution that gives the people voting rights?

 

[SystemShock]

Because you've never had to get an expedited one in New Orleans.

Maybe I am missing something... as far as I know, when you get a passport, you don't deal with local government; you deal with the same federal government agency no matter where you are in the U.S. Why would it be different in New Orleans?

 

[samiam5211]

Isn't the U.S. Constitution that gives the people voting rights?

Yea, but the processes through which that happens is left up to the states, with the exception of things covered specifically by the reconstruction amendments.

That's why it was so hard to end Jim Crow laws, and even today you have some people claiming that things like the Voting rights act was unconstitutional.

 

[SystemShock]

Yea, but the processes through which that happens is left up to the states, with the exception of things covered specifically by the reconstruction amendments.

That's why it was so hard to end Jim Crow laws, and even today you have some people claiming that things like the Voting rights act was unconstitutional.

Well, we have people claiming the Earth is flat, so...

In any case, I am not advocating for a voting ID, just pointing out that it wouldn't be the white supremacist's disenfranchising wet dream some make it out to be... (and yes, a lil' hyperbole to drive the point)

If MX can do it, I am sure the U.S. can do it too.

 

[insidejob]

Maybe I am missing something... as far as I know, when you get a passport, you don't deal with local government; you deal with the same federal government agency no matter where you are in the U.S. Why would it be different in New Orleans?

Because everything is slower in New Orleans. Literally everything.