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[Farb]

For all the things related to the Biden/Harris Administration and their latest hits and misses

https://www.dailywire.com/news/whit...gedly-sexually-harassing-threatening-reporter

Interesting story, looks like 'only the best people' didn't stop with the new administration.

 

[Farb]

Would very much like to see proof of non-citizens actually voting. Other than a Ben Shapiro blog post.

I was referring to @H B Lowrey post, but since you brought up are you talking local or federal elections?

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

I was referring to @H B Lowrey post, but since you brought up are you talking local or federal elections?

Feel free to post anything that mentions it on a significant scale. And I'll set the bar on 'significant' low like a dozen or so votes in a given election and not just a series of isolated incidents of one individual.

 

[samiam5211]

The real question is why do they not have an ID to begin with? If someone does not have enough sense to obtain a license, do they really need to be voting?

ID are required for too many things.

My dog chewed up my license a while back and it was a few weeks before i got it replaced.

it's ridiculous that a 40+ year old with a gray beard can't buy a bottle of wine without having to show my papers.

 

[Farb]

https://ballotpedia.org/Laws_permitting_noncitizens_to_vote_in_the_United_States

This article lists some examples, although I am not sure if this was written by our boogey man Shapiro or not.

 

[Farb]

ID are required for too many things.

My dog chewed up my license a while back and it was a few weeks before i got it replaced.

it's ridiculous that a 40+ year old with a gray beard can't buy a bottle of wine without having to show my papers.

I feel you my friend. I really do. Chalk that up the puritans ideals foundation of this country.

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

https://ballotpedia.org/Laws_permitting_noncitizens_to_vote_in_the_United_States

This article lists some examples, although I am not sure if this was written by our boogey man Shapiro or not.

So there is no universal bar on non-citizens voting in state/local elections and, instead, it seems to be left up to the states to decide by implication/10th Amendment. It's perfectly legal -- and seems more the exception than the rule. As to whether they should is a more nuanced question. If someone is living in a locality and generally governed by the laws and paying taxes in some form be it property tax or state tax being deducted from a paycheck, well...

They can't vote in federal elections so it would be an issue if you could cite instances where this were happening in derogation of the law.

 

[H B Lowrey]

I was referring to @H B Lowrey post, but since you brought up are you talking local or federal elections?

Whatever you think you have.

 

[H B Lowrey]

I feel you my friend. I really do. Chalk that up the puritans ideals foundation of this country.

Like burning women at the stake, genociding their way onto a land mass and slave owning?

 

[H B Lowrey]

The real question is why do they not have an ID to begin with? If someone does not have enough sense to obtain a license, do they really need to be voting?

Everyone who is a citizen should be allowed to, encouraged to, and assisted to vote, yeah, but you've made it plain you don't think so.

 

[H B Lowrey]

https://ballotpedia.org/Laws_permitting_noncitizens_to_vote_in_the_United_States

This article lists some examples, although I am not sure if this was written by our boogey man Shapiro or not.

Bennie isn't a boogey man, he's a fragile white male racist pied piper for folk like you.

 

[Farb]

Everyone who is a citizen should be allowed to, encouraged to, and assisted to vote, yeah, but you've made it plain you don't think so.

You are correct. I don't.

 

[Farb]

Bennie isn't a boogey man, he's a fragile white male racist pied piper for folk like you.

Who is Bennie? Shapiro? If so, can you show me proof, should be readily available, that is racist? What has he said that racist?

 

[Farb]

Like burning women at the stake, genociding their way onto a land mass and slave owning?

I don't feel like arguing with you on this hyperbole, but I would encourage to put Zinn down and actually read a history book.

 

[Farb]

So there is no universal bar on non-citizens voting in state/local elections and, instead, it seems to be left up to the states to decide by implication/10th Amendment. It's perfectly legal -- and seems more the exception than the rule. As to whether they should is a more nuanced question. If someone is living in a locality and generally governed by the laws and paying taxes in some form be it property tax or state tax being deducted from a paycheck, well...

They can't vote in federal elections so it would be an issue if you could cite instances where this were happening in derogation of the law.

That is why I asked if you were talking about local or federal elections but clearly you didn't know either so no harm no foul.

 

[MT15]

Federal, Farb. Federal. Also, state, for that matter. From your source:

‘As of March 2020, two state constitutions specified that noncitizens may not vote in state and local elections: Arizona's and North Dakota's. No state constitutions explicitly allowed noncitizens to vote in state or local elections.[2]

Fifteen municipalities across the country allowed noncitizens to vote in local elections as of January 2022. Eleven were located in Maryland, two were located in Vermont, one was New York City, and the other was San Francisco, California.’

The example you gave just says when and where it is legal for non-citizens to vote. What you were supposedly talking about was voter fraud. Of which there really isn’t any significant voter fraud in this country. Especially not at the federal level.

 

[FullMonte]

The real question is why do they not have an ID to begin with? If someone does not have enough sense to obtain a license, do they really need to be voting?

There are plenty of reasons why...

In most states, you need a birth certificate in order to get a government ID. However, there are many people who were born on ranches by midwifes, and no birth certificates were issued. Another great example....in at least one state, you need your birth certificate to get a state issued ID. In order to get a copy of your birth certificate, you need to provide a valid state issued ID.

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

That is why I asked if you were talking about local or federal elections but clearly you didn't know either so no harm no foul.

So you just don't like the idea of localities/states choosing to allow them to vote despite the fact they have the implicit constitutional authority to do so? And, on the federal level where it is actually illegal, you don't seem to have anything that points to the fact that it's happening?

 

[H B Lowrey]

I don't feel like arguing with you on this hyperbole, but I would encourage to put Zinn down and actually read a history book.

Now Zinn is one of your cheap arse attack terms? Then go away and stop trying to argue a fictitious point.