Biden stepping down - now what? (2 Viewers)

[zztop]

I feel like this deserves a separate topic.
What will be the plan for the DNC?
How will this all shake out?

 

[SamAndreas]

Someone she can work with is a given and considering how closely contested the 2016 and 2020 elections were.. anything around the margins including the VP pick could help make a difference.

I don't think this election is going to be close BDB13.

I think this election will make 2008 seem mellow. Mellow Yellow:

 

[SamAndreas]

We have to not forget Bernie, he's old, good wisdom. Biden is old, good wisdom.

Kamala likes old guys filled with good wisdom.

 

[Taurus]

Harris can pick just about any Dem governor for VP. It would be nice to see the Dems play strategic ball for once, though. I'd like to see her pick someone who can win in 2032. Trump, Biden, McConnell and that crowd will all be dead, most likely. National demographics are moving, as inevitable as a glacier, away from the GOP. Eventually not even their big bag of dirty tricks will save them. What can save them is Democrat incompetence like we've been seeing from the DNC since the 90's.

If Obama had chosen someone younger and more assertive as VP in 2012, Trump never happens. If Clinton had chosen someone with the personality of a living being, Bush II never happens.

They have to start planning not just for this election, but the ones after. As FDR and Reagan/Bush showed us, you need three terms of the same Presidential-level policies to really set them in stone. Two terms aren't quite enough. You also need a good, long string in order to clear out the corrupt den of hacks that the Supreme Court has become.

 

[zztop]

Harris can pick just about any Dem governor for VP. It would be nice to see the Dems play strategic ball for once, though.

Out of the list I've seen, I think it will be the term-limited NC governor, or the NV astronaut (who doesn't like astronauts?!)

 

[MT15]

Out of the list I've seen, I think it will be the term-limited NC governor, or the NV astronaut (who doesn't like astronauts?!)

AZ astronaut, which is the plus of being a swing state that would be a nice get. And his Senate seat would go to a D with no special election, they would just serve out his term, IIRC.

 

[Nebaghead]

I think it will be Shapiro. He could help secure PA. If PA is lost, the path to victory is slim.
AZ is only 11 Electoral Votes. NC is 16 and PA is 20.

 

[SaintForLife]

Interesting if true


Operatives at the very highest levels of the Democratic Party threatened President Biden with forcibly removing him from office unless he stepped down, sources told The Post.

The well-orchestrated “palace coup” to stop the faltering president from seeking re-election had been in place for weeks, but stubborn Biden fought it every step of the way, a source close to the Biden family told The Post on Monday.

The insider also made clear the anger, paranoia and frustration Biden displayed as the party elite circled around him and piled on the pressure.

Exclusive | Top Dems threatened to forcibly remove Biden from office unless he dropped out, set him up to fail at Trump debate: sources

Joe Biden was forced out of the race by Democratic party operatives, threatened with 25th amendment

nypost.com

 

[MT15]

NY Post is a gossip rag. This article depends on one anonymous source, and we already know (by documented cases) that the NYPost will make things up to entertain their audience.

It should never be relied on as a legit source of news.

 

[SaintForLife]

Well, well, it's amazing this turns up after Biden drops out.

 

[zztop]

I think it will be Shapiro. He could help secure PA. If PA is lost, the path to victory is slim.
AZ is only 11 Electoral Votes. NC is 16 and PA is 20.

I don't have stats to back this up, just a feeling, but I think PA is more of a safe (D) win vs AZ. As for NC, I think that could go either way

 

[Nebaghead]

I don't have stats to back this up, just a feeling, but I think PA is more of a safe (D) win vs AZ. As for NC, I think that could go either way

Polling in PA has been leaning Trump. At best it is a toss up for the Dems.
Az is polling heavily towards Trump. Not sure if Mark Kelly can help that much.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

Jeffries and Schumer are now on board the Harris train (as expected).

July 23, 2024, presidential campaign news | CNN Politics

Vice President Kamala Harris, in the first rally of her 2024 presidential campaign, told supporters in Wisconsin that she will spend the coming weeks “continuing to unite our party” ahead of the Democratic National Convention next month and this fall’s showdown with Donald Trump.

www.cnn.com

 

[GrandAdmiral]

Polling in PA has been leaning Trump. At best it is a toss up for the Dems.
Az is polling heavily towards Trump. Not sure if Mark Kelly can help that much.

Yeah. While I'd like to go with Kelly to possibly lock up AZ, losing PA hurts far more. NC has been one of those "just gravy" states we'd like to win again. But it isn't needed for victory. I'm likely going with Shapiro too...

However, if he says no. I MIGHT go with Cooper just for the executive experience.

 

[Nebaghead]

Yeah. While I'd like to go with Kelly to possibly lock up AZ, losing PA hurts far more. NC has been one of those "just gravy" states we'd like to win again. But it isn't needed for victory. I'm likely going with Shapiro too...

However, if he says no. I MIGHT go with Cooper just for the executive experience.

Shapiro gives the dems access to the Jewish Space Lasers, so there is always that too.

 

[zztop]

would this qualify as a zinger?

 

[LA - L.A.]

Yeah. While I'd like to go with Kelly to possibly lock up AZ, losing PA hurts far more. NC has been one of those "just gravy" states we'd like to win again. But it isn't needed for victory. I'm likely going with Shapiro too...

However, if he says no. I MIGHT go with Cooper just for the executive experience.

Just an observation. A former governor hasn't won a presidential race since Clinton in 1996. Since then, it's been W. Bush, Obama, Trump and then Biden. I don't see any advantage to being a former governor in regards to winning an election and I don't see any indication that former governors are inherently more effective as presidents.

 

[Semper]

I'm all for it, but there's no way a Constitutional amendment is passing while Republicans have control of as many states as they do and the number of seats they have in the two chambers of Congress.

The only way to get the Electoral College repealed is to vote our way to enough control to pass a Constitutional amendment.

That will never happen. If it were to happen your vote outside of Chicago, New York and Los Angeles is worth bull squat. The Electoral College is there so everyone has an equal vote. Get rid of it and politicians would just need those places to win every year.

 

[LA - L.A.]

That will never happen. If it were to happen your vote outside of Chicago, New York and Los Angeles is worth bull squat.

Not true at all. If every vote counts, then they have to campaign in more states, not less.

Right now under the Electoral College, more than half the states and half of the voters are ignored and taken for granted.