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    LA - L.A. said:
    So, billionaires have shoved Donald Trump down our throats? I know you feel that way about Democratic candidates, but what about the Republican candidates? Do you ever vote for Democratic candidates, or do you just vote straight Republican?
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    My man I vote my conscience and I have said already I wouldn’t vote for Trump or Biden. I was asked what Democrats I would vote for and I listed those. I am not a voter for any team but for the person that reflects my values as much as possible. I have voted for Democrats in my local election and I did not vote for a presidential candidate last election. I did vote for Ross Perot once as well.
     
    Semper said:
    My man I vote my conscience and I have said already I wouldn’t vote for Trump or Biden. I was asked what Democrats I would vote for and I listed those. I am not a voter for any team but for the person that reflects my values as much as possible. I have voted for Democrats in my local election and I did not vote for a presidential candidate last election. I did vote for Ross Perot once as well.
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    Then, my man, why do you assume that those who want to reform or remove the Electoral College system are just partisan Democrats?

    Why did you make that accusation about others, if you are not partisan yourself, my man?
     
    LA - L.A. said:
    Just an observation. A former governor hasn't won a presidential race since Clinton in 1996. Since then, it's been W. Bush, Obama, Trump and then Biden. I don't see any advantage to being a former governor in regards to winning an election and I don't see any indication that former governors are inherently more effective as presidents.
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    How many of those won the state they came from though? I'm too lazy to look it up lol. Maybe the smaller strategy would be (if) picking one could win their state (AZ, PA, NC) vs if they could help everywhere? I have a thought that many states are likely to fall in a certain way, and only a few would/could go either way (so choosing someone from there might help, in theory, maybe, I have no clue lol)
     
    zztop said:
    How many of those won the state they came from though? I'm too lazy to look it up lol. Maybe the smaller strategy would be (if) picking one could win their state (AZ, PA, NC) vs if they could help everywhere? I have a thought that many states are likely to fall in a certain way, and only a few would/could go either way (so choosing someone from there might help, in theory, maybe, I have no clue lol)
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    I get what you're saying. For the most meaningful context, I think you'd have to look at how often a ticket won the state that the VP was a former governor of.
     
    LA - L.A. said:
    Then, my man, why do you assume that those who want to reform or remove the Electoral College system are just partisan Democrats?

    Why did you make that accusation about others, if you are not partisan yourself, my man?
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    You’re right. I did make an assumption. Any of the democrats on this board want to keep the EC?
     
    Nebaghead said:
    I get @Semper your issue with a certain demographic getting all the attention because they are in a populated area and it is cheaper to go to a city than travel to small towns. Essentially, that is what happens now with the electoral college. The swing states that are visited only get campaign events in the population centers. They go where they get the most bang for their buck.
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    Which is why Harris was in New Orleans a few weeks ago. It wasn't to just court Louisiana voters. It was to speak to everyone else from around the country (including swing states) that had come in for Essence Fest.
     
    SaintForLife said:
    Posting without "commentary." Will you call yourself out?
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    LOLOL you went SEARCHING for that post 4 pages back....because, you DO CARE LOL

    i knew it and even said as much ( on the other thread you said that you didnt care )

    As for the post itself, i was replying directly to B4YOUs post about the crying - not you, not in general - a gif to a post that was IN CONTEXT

    now if you want, i can start yanking your posts from all over this board that are A) out of context and b) with ZERO COMMENTARY and i can assure you that it will be close to 25:1 ratio of any post i put without my own thoughts.

    Wanna play?

     
    J-DONK said:
    There is a huge Trump campaign article I linked about a week ago. They talked about only 4 BG states really mattering this cycle: AZ, Penn, MI, WI.

    There isn't a good argument for the EC. You can get a popular vote tally easy enough.

    It will take Republicans winning the popular vote but losing the EC for it to finally change though.
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    If DC was a Republican stronghold, then it would have voting representation in the House and Senate. As a Dem area, this will never get done. I'm more hopeful for an end to federal income taxes in DC in lieu of representation because that's a Repub wet dream.
     
    zztop said:
    How many of those won the state they came from though? I'm too lazy to look it up lol. Maybe the smaller strategy would be (if) picking one could win their state (AZ, PA, NC) vs if they could help everywhere? I have a thought that many states are likely to fall in a certain way, and only a few would/could go either way (so choosing someone from there might help, in theory, maybe, I have no clue lol)
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    If Al Gore had won his own state of Tenn. He would have won the election in 2000.
     
    J-DONK said:
    There is a huge Trump campaign article I linked about a week ago. They talked about only 4 BG states really mattering this cycle: AZ, Penn, MI, WI.

    There isn't a good argument for the EC. You can get a popular vote tally easy enough.

    It will take Republicans winning the popular vote but losing the EC for it to finally change though.
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    Which will happen just after hell freezes over.
    The GOP has gotten curbstomped in the totals worse every cycle.
     
    Semper said:
    You’re right. I did make an assumption. Any of the democrats on this board want to keep the EC?
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    I want to reform it. I think the current EC is broken and a direct popular vote (the ideally best option) risks rural states feeling subjugated. We can't have a system where Wyoming get 1 EC vote per 177k people, the average state gets 1EC/565k people, and CA/TX get 1EC/730k (2008 numbers). We need to end the 538 number and have electors distributed as equally as feasible while also mandating proportional electors based on votes.

    I would keep a base of 3 EC however I would make it 1/state with the remaining based on population, current is 2/state. So WY gets 1 EC for being a state and 2 EC votes at 584k pop or 1EC/292k. No change for WY. With a US pop of 333M there would be appox 1140 EC votes or 602 more votes distributed among states. California accounts for 10% or 54 EC votes. With this plan CA would have about 134 votes or 11.7%. Again, I would mandate EC votes to be divided proportional. This isn't perfect, but it's better.

    I also think the House needs to grow to shrink districts and the Senate needs a 2/3/4 division based on population instead of 2/state. I would be totally fine with 1k Reps and 150 Sen to fit a new EC model.

    Our founders never imagined the massive population differences between states that we have today.
     
    B4YOU said:
    If DC was a Republican stronghold, then it would have voting representation in the House and Senate. As a Dem area, this will never get done. I'm more hopeful for an end to federal income taxes in DC in lieu of representation because that's a Repub wet dream.
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    Why do you think that is?

    Dems have had the raw power to make DC a state for those purposes, but they've never even tried as far as I know.

    I'm not disagreeing, more slagging on the DNC for having no damn clue how to wield power.
     

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