All things Racist...USA edition (1 Viewer)

[Farb]

I was looking for a place to put this so we could discuss but didn't really find a place that worked so I created this thread so we can all place articles, experiences, videos and examples of racism in the USA.

This is one that happened this week. The lady even called and filed a complaint on the officer. This officer also chose to wear the body cam (apparently, LA doesn't require this yet). This exchange wasn't necessarily racist IMO until she started with the "mexican racist...you will never be white, like you want" garbage. That is when it turned racist IMO

All the murderer and other insults, I think are just a by product of CRT and ACAB rhetoric that is very common on the radical left and sadly is being brought to mainstream in this country.

Another point that I think is worth mentioning is she is a teacher and the sense of entitlement she feels is mind blowing.

https://news.yahoo.com/black-teacher-berates-latino-la-221235341.html

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

I'm white too, and I don't need some jackass telling my kid that his skin tone is part of the problem. It's better to teach our kids how to mutually respect each other and leave history in the text books, where it belongs.

So, where does the view come from that teaching what's in the textbooks is the same thing as telling someone's kid that their skin color is part of the problem? I suspect it comes from the fear that before too long white Americans will be the minority. Isn't that what's really bothering you?

 

[brandon]

Everything's disagreeable. All I needed to do was condense my response.

Ok, let's take it point by point and you tell me where the CRT hurt you.

I'm white, and knowing my white ancestors owned slaves and were probably on the wrong side of the civil rights era doesn't make me feel bad. I am not my ancestors, and I am not responsible for their actions.

I assumed we would agree on that. But you find this point disagreeable?

I am not responsible for the racism of my ancestors.

How about that one? Do you feel responsible for the racism of your ancestors? I don't.

However, because my education has included the knowledge that systemic racism from the past continues to exist in America today, I am absolutely responsible for the decisions I make today regarding systemic racism.

You have already shown previously that you agree systemic racism exists, and you're a member of the Party of Personal Responsibility™, so I assume you agree that you are responsible for the decisions you make, right?

If I make decisions that continue to support systemic racism, I should feel bad knowing that I am continuing the oppression of minorities in my country, because I'm doing a bad thing (not my ancestors). Further, if I make decisions that don't actively work to destroy systemic racism, I should feel bad for the same reason.

If you agree you should take responsibility for your own decisions, then you should agree with this, right?

I'll stop here for now and wait to see if you can clarify your "everything's disagreeable" statement with some additional context.

 

[Peace]

Ok, let's take it point by point and you tell me where the CRT hurt you.

CRT hurts everyone. It hurts white people directly and it'll hurt non-whites through backlash. Do you want to start a civil war or do you want to just teach people to be cool with each other? You seem to want the former. What's the matter with you people?

 

[Optimus Prime]

CRT hurts everyone. It hurts white people directly and it'll hurt non-whites through backlash. Do you want to start a civil war or do you want to just teach people to be cool with each other? You seem to want the former. What's the matter with you people?

So basically, CRT hurts white people by making them angry about history (which you've said should be taught in textbooks) and non-whites are hurt by backlash from angry white people?

 

[coldseat]

I'm white too,

Never would have guessed

and I don't need some jackass

You mean a teacher?

telling my kid that his skin tone is part of the problem.

I'm pretty sure you do that on your own with the way you act on this forum and I'm in real life.

It's better to teach our kids how to mutually respect each other

Is that what Republicans do, mutually respect others? You mean they mutually respect Democrats, black people, Hispanic people, LGBTQ+ people, woman and all others who aren't straight, white, Christian or male? Maybe Republicans have a different definition of mutual respect that include denigrating and dehumanizing anything that isn't them. Either way, count me out.

and leave history in the text books, where it belongs.

"Our ignorance of history causes us to slander our own times." Gustave Flaubert

“To be ignorant of what occurred before you were born is to remain always a child. For what is the worth of human life, unless it is woven into the life of our ancestors by the records of history?” Marcus Tullius Cicero

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

This whole elect Trump and follow Trumpism shirt show that is going on is about white working-class America losing its social and economic status.

 

[brandon]

CRT hurts everyone. It hurts white people directly and it'll hurt non-whites through backlash. Do you want to start a civil war or do you want to just teach people to be cool with each other? You seem to want the former. What's the matter with you people?

Nothing. There was no CRT in my post. I'm sorry I gave you that sarcastic branch to latch on to.

Please respond to a single point I listed that you disagree with.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Right-wing pundits and Republican apologists are quick to blame “elites” or “the left” for a failure to respect and recognize the legitimacy of a MAGA movement based in election denial, White Christian nationalism and hostility toward robust democratic elections. It’s a demand for acceptance that is eerily reminiscent of other periods in U.S. history (e.g., the 1850s, the 1920s, the 1950s), which can illuminate the depth of our national problem.

At the outbreak of the Civil War, for example, it was as if the South “could hear nothing more — could absorb nothing more — once it was told that the rest of the nation had found its way of life morally wanting. It felt judged, and it hated it,” writes Jon Meacham in “And There Was Light: Abraham Lincoln and the American Struggle.”

Substitute “election denier” for “the South,” and you have a fair approximation of the current state of American politics.

Now, one side believes its viewpoint is essential to maintaining its power and its conception of America. It insists its followers can be “seen” only if the rest of us agree with their delusions and conspiracies.

Sorry, but in a democracy, there is no compromise with that mentality. Buying into the “big lie” and white nationalism means rejecting the premise of constitutional government based on the creed “All men are created equal.”

The MAGA perspective explains the constant anger of a shrinking segment of Whites who, as George Mason University political scientist Ashley Jardina told the New York Times, feel “really threatened [so] are willing to reject democratic norms because they see it as a way to protect their status.”

These Americans believe they’ve been deprived their “due” of elite status by a changing country.

Aggravated by declining economic prospects, overwhelmed by the opioid epidemic and utterly divorced from mainstream news sources, they unsurprisingly glob onto conspiracies, hold up former president Donald Trump as their champion and refuse to process any information that conflicts with the victimhood they embrace.

While there are certainly persuadable voters who drift between the parties, one cannot attribute Democrats’ losses in certain areas of the country to “poor messaging” or even a specific policy failure. None of that would make any difference.

It’s fantasy to think there is a segment of White male working-class voters eager to vote Democratic if only Democrats had not passed the American Rescue Plan or avoided dealing with bias in policing.

Sure, Republican politicians, big donors, right-wing pundits and GOP consultants would love us to believe that the misguided policies of Democrats have created the MAGA movement. Balderdash.

There are some who see the disaffected MAGA mob as a means to their own ends of low taxes and right-wing judges, but let’s not pretend that sophisticated policy differences explain the movement..........

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/10/25/election-deniers-midterms-maga/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F3837666%2F6358062af3d9003c581a7e26%2F59813061ae7e8a6816fb1940%2F17%2F72%2F6358062af3d9003c581a7e26&wp_cu=f59d95843d1b8569d5feb9225743f8ec%7C42E730F6C5F01223E0530100007F1ADF

 

[Optimus Prime]

from London
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ALondon NHS Trust has been found liable for race-related harassment after a nurse told another nurse to bleach their skin so that "patients will be nicer to you", an employment tribunal has found. When agency nurse at Central North West London Trust (CNWL) Ms A Kweyama, complained about the harassment, her boss suggested she might be mentally unwell which was "humiliating and offensive", Employment Judge George ruled this week.

Ms Kweyama was a nurse at Heathrow Immigration Removal Centre, at the time run by CNWL, which houses immigration detainees from a wide range of countries pending their removal from the UK - it has a capacity of 965 residents, making it the largest immigration removal centre in Europe.

The nurse, who is black and originally from South Africa, was racially abused by detainees in an incident in January 2019 when she said they "started calling [her] n****r, monkey, and started making monkey noises and dog noises".

When Ms Kweyama suggested to a colleague, anonymised as 'LS' that the comments were due to her race, LS allegedly said: ‘You need to get a pool of bleach to bleach your skin so so that you come back tomorrow white and the patients will be nice to you".

On February 10, 2019 the same nurse was overheard saying: "I do not care let her go into bleach her skin, I am sick and tired of people coming to work and said they are not well”. Ms Kweyama at first declined to submit a formal incident form, saying 'it's what staff put up with all the time', however a formal process was eventually followed.

However, Employment Judge George ruled that the case was dropped too early and there was little attempt to discuss how such incidents could be prevented in future.

An employment tribunal, attended by representatives of the Trust, published today (Monday, October 24) ruled that the trust was liable for the race-related harassment and victimisation including a failure to fully investigate the complaint.

The ruling also detailed how Ms Keywama's boss told her she was mentally unwell when she asked for a break due to feeling anxious about how she was treated. She was told her that her reaction to being racially abused was "excessive" and that her role was being terminated, which her boss denied............

Nurse told colleague she should bleach her skin to 'come back white and so patients will be nice to her'

 

[Peace]

Nothing. There was no CRT in my post. I'm sorry I gave you that sarcastic branch to latch on to.

Please respond to a single point I listed that you disagree with.

Oh, well, then that's cool. If there isn't any CRT related items in your post, then there's nothing else to discuss.

We can both conclude that the Golden Rule is the best way to roll.

 

[MT15]

Oh, well, then that's cool. If there isn't any CRT related items in your post, then there's nothing else to discuss.

We can both conclude the Golden Rule is the best way to roll.

That doesn’t do anything but duck the question. You said you disagreed with everything in his post. So he asked you to explain. He even helpfully broke his post down into the basic thoughts so you could point to exactly what you disagreed with. So go ahead - show us what you disagree with.

 

[Peace]

That doesn’t do anything but duck the question. You said you disagreed with everything in his post. So he asked you to explain. He even helpfully broke his post down into the basic thoughts so you could point to exactly what you disagreed with. So go ahead - show us what you disagree with.

Because his post is veiled CRT BS. The dude's just trying to be slick.

 

[MT15]

Because his post is veiled CRT BS. The dude's just trying to be slick.

So enlighten us. How did he manage it? How did you see through it? It should be easy for you to pick his post apart, right?

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

No, no. Keep it slavery because that's what it was.

Don't make stuff up; it's too democrat.

Its as real as CRT, so take that however you want..

 

[brandon]

Because his post is veiled CRT BS. The dude's just trying to be slick.

It's literally my thoughts and nothing more. There's no CRT. There's no attempt to be slick. I lay out where I think we agree (and you are free to refute that if you don't) and where I think the logical progression goes based on what we agree upon.

Say something of substance.

 

[Saintamaniac]

Everything's disagreeable. All I needed to do was condense my response.

Yes, everything's disagreeable when you have zero facts to back up any claims you make. Just keep repeating the same lies you've been programmed with from your orange savior. You're simply delusional but you will project that on everyone else because only you know the truth. The rest of us are supposed to believe that we are mistaken when we saw a Republican insurrection at the capital with the intent to murder elected officials. We are supposed to forget that we saw trump supporters attempting to murder capital police officials. We're supposed to bend over backwards to ignore verifiable truths because YOU decided to believe Q-anon BS conspiracy theories and live in a reality of your own making.

You call leftist propaganda books? I mean, books that kids and students should be reading? lol
You call making white kids feel bad about themselves a worthy practice? lol
You call a protest gone wrong, an insurrection? lol

That quote above demonstrates how absolutely delusional you are with respect to the truth of what happened. Hell, I'm pretty damn sure you couldn't describe CRT in your own words if your life depended on it. You are the embodiment of delusional yet you accuse everyone else of the very thing you yourself suffer from.

 

[Farb]

Have you ever tried to get an ID/license in Louisiana? Takes pretty much a whole day of waiting at an OMV! Perhaps no-so-coincidentally, the urban area branches are woefully understaffed whereas the rural parishes are a lot faster.

So the color of ones skin determines how impactful it is on you a person to stand in a line? Come on, you are better than that. That is bigotry of low expectations.

 

[Farb]

Hell, they closed down a bunch of rural DMVs in Alabama right around the time voter ID laws got stricter. Funny how that works.

You know you can go online and renew your license and have a new one mailed out to you, right?