All things Racist...USA edition (1 Viewer)

[Farb]

I was looking for a place to put this so we could discuss but didn't really find a place that worked so I created this thread so we can all place articles, experiences, videos and examples of racism in the USA.

This is one that happened this week. The lady even called and filed a complaint on the officer. This officer also chose to wear the body cam (apparently, LA doesn't require this yet). This exchange wasn't necessarily racist IMO until she started with the "mexican racist...you will never be white, like you want" garbage. That is when it turned racist IMO

All the murderer and other insults, I think are just a by product of CRT and ACAB rhetoric that is very common on the radical left and sadly is being brought to mainstream in this country.

Another point that I think is worth mentioning is she is a teacher and the sense of entitlement she feels is mind blowing.

https://news.yahoo.com/black-teacher-berates-latino-la-221235341.html

 

[Optimus Prime]

Is the above proof of racism?
If yes. Why?

I think the point is the cops have no issue with arresting people for 'minor' offenses but for playing monkey noises on a loudspeaker whenever your black neighbors leave or enter their house doesn't rate?

How is it not harassment?, or disturbing the peace, or public nuisance or noise ordinance or something like that?

But maybe if the they keep their heads down and don't make a big stink about it and are the best damn neighbors in the world the racist guy will see the error of his ways

 

[Farb]

I think the point is the cops have no issue with arresting people for 'minor' offenses but for playing monkey noises on a loudspeaker whenever your black neighbors leave or enter their house doesn't rate?

How is it not harassment?, or disturbing the peace, or public nuisance or noise ordinance or something like that?

But maybe if the they keep their heads down and don't make a big stink about it and are the best damn neighbors in the world the racist guy will see the error of his ways

Are we sure the neighbors are white? I only ask because the majority of the time these incidents are fake.

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[Farb]

I am not saying she is lying, I have no reason to doubt her or her story but we have all seen this play out the other way. Very recently, several times recently actually.

 

[Paul]

I think the point is the cops have no issue with arresting people for 'minor' offenses but for playing monkey noises on a loudspeaker whenever your black neighbors leave or enter their house doesn't rate?

How is it not harassment?, or disturbing the peace, or public nuisance or noise ordinance or something like that?

But maybe if the they keep their heads down and don't make a big stink about it and are the best damn neighbors in the world the racist guy will see the error of his ways

The point that really matters is that the fact they arrested more POC that does not mean racism. The reasons are multifactorial and among the many reasons racism is just ONE.

 

[samiam5211]

Are we sure the neighbors are white? I only ask because the majority of the time these incidents are fake.

He didn't say they were white.

And the majority of these incidents are not fake, not even close.

I think you need better sources of information.

 

[MT15]

Are we sure the neighbors are white? I only ask because the majority of the time these incidents are fake.

Yeah, I missed this blatant lie the first time through this thread. Lol.

 

[Farb]

https://news.yahoo.com/black-woman-accused-pretending-white-213411234.html

Blue Telusma
October 1, 2021·3 min read


Criminal charges were filed against Terresha Lucas, a 30-year-old Black woman
In an unexpected turn of events, this week authorities in Georgia revealed they believe a Black woman is behind the “racially charged” notes that have been terrorizing her neighborhood.
Since last December, a Douglasville, Georgia neighborhood has been gripped in fear due to racially charged messages that have anonymously been left in the mailboxes of residents of color, reports Fox News. But now officials say police said they have made an arrest and the alleged culprit is not who anyone would have expected.
Wednesday, the Douglasville Police Department confirmed that they had filed criminal charges against Terresha Lucas. Lucas is a 30-year-old Black woman who they believe threatened people in her community while posing as a Ku Klux Klan member.

I have no way of knowing if this particular instance is fake or not but there has been a rash of these lately. Maybe wait until all the details are in. I doubt this one is faked but it would not surprise me. The adoration of victimhood in this society is the cause of these fake 'hate' crimes.

 

[LAhotsauce]

I don't make the law unfortunately. I am only stating how the current laws are and I think you have them backwards.
Like I said, one will be treated as graffiti and vandalism and one was treated as a hate crime. If you fake a hate crime, you get the punishment of the hate crime you faked but we all know that will never happen. Why is the real question. Preserved victimhood and the victimhood hierarchy

Why do you keep taking about this "victimhood" and victimhood hierarchy" as if these fake crimes are rampant? Or as rampant as actual hate crimes?

Do you believe fake racist acts occur at the same magnitude of real racist and white supremacist acts? You don't even know if this one instance you posted is real or fake or not correct?

 

[Farb]

Why do you keep taking about this "victimhood" and victimhood hierarchy" as if these fake crimes are rampant? Or as rampant as actual hate crimes?

Do you believe fake racist acts occur at the same magnitude of real racist and white supremacist acts? You don't even know if this one instance you posted is real or fake or not correct?

Do I think racist acts are more rampant that fake hate crimes. I think that will depend on the definition you use as 'racist'.
Now if you ask me do I think fake hate crimes happen more often than acts of white supremacy, then my answer will be 'yes'.

The reason I bring up victimhood and the hierarchy is because it has become this societies measurement for self worth and self reflection. We used to admire and celebrate work, victory and perseverance. Now we only celebrate victimhood. The celebration of 'indigenous people day' is a perfect example of how far our society has fallen into a heap of self despair and victimhood.

 

[Paul]

Do I think racist acts are more rampant that fake hate crimes. I think that will depend on the definition you use as 'racist'.
Now if you ask me do I think fake hate crimes happen more often than acts of white supremacy, then my answer will be 'yes'.

The reason I bring up victimhood and the hierarchy is because it has become this societies measurement for self worth and self reflection. We used to admire and celebrate work, victory and perseverance. Now we only celebrate victimhood. The celebration of 'indigenous people day' is a perfect example of how far our society has fallen into a heap of self despair and victimhood.

The victimhood or oppressed scale was proposed by CRT Kimberlé Williams Crenshaw (American lawyer, civil rights advocate, philosopher, and a leading scholar of critical race theory). In her theory a person may have more than one attribute that increases oppression and victimhood. This is called intersectionality. For example a black gay man is more oppressed than a white gay man. Or an obese feminists is more oppressed than a thin feminist. Some people carry multiple traitsof oppression and they rise to the top of victimhood.

I feel CRT expert Crenshaw is correct, but her views promote the idea that victimhood is a desirable status that empowers people.

 

[insidejob]

The victimhood or oppressed scale was proposed by CRT Kimberlé Williams Crenshaw (American lawyer, civil rights advocate, philosopher, and a leading scholar of critical race theory). In her theory a person may have more than one attribute that increases oppression and victimhood. This is called intersectionality. For example a black gay man is more oppressed than a white gay man. Or an obese feminists is more oppressed than a thin feminist. Some people carry multiple traitsof oppression and they rise to the top of victimhood.

I feel CRT expert Crenshaw is correct, but her views promote the idea that victimhood is a desirable status that empowers people.

You forgot to "un-italicize" her last name when you copied and pasted your post.

 

[MT15]

When you copy and paste, you should at least put quote marks around it. Otherwise it’s just bad form, Paul.

 

[Paul]

You forgot to "un-italicize" her last name when you copied and pasted your post.

Yes, I looked up her credentials. Do you need a reference. What I aid after posting her credentials is my opinion using my own words. How about making a critique of what i said?

 

[Paul]

When you copy and paste, you should at least put quote marks around it. Otherwise it’s just bad form, Paul.

Barrack Obama, POTUS

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I agree with you, but I do not think it is really needed unless one is mentioning a total unknown. Crenshaw is one of the founders of CRT, that is not news. Otherwise, all you are doing is the analogous of looking for a spelling error to disprove a point.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Yes, I looked up her credentials. Do you need a reference. What I aid after posting her credentials is my opinion using my own words. How about making a critique of what i said?

Why should anyone critique what you said? You offered no evidence to support your opinion that "her views promote the idea that victimhood is a desirable status that empowers people."

Since you like quoting people so much, how about this quote from Christopher Hitchens: "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence."

 

[LAhotsauce]

Do I think racist acts are more rampant that fake hate crimes. I think that will depend on the definition you use as 'racist'.
Now if you ask me do I think fake hate crimes happen more often than acts of white supremacy, then my answer will be 'yes'.

Fake hate crimes are more rampant than acts of racism and white supremacy based on what? Any studies, links, evidence to support this?

And I'm guessing the 100 year acknowledgement of the massacre of "Black Wall St" just more evidence of this country falling into a heap of despair and victimhood? We've got days for mothers and fathers but having a day for the indigenous peoples...whom are indeed victims...just more victimhood?

How about National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day on Dec 7th. More victimhood we need to get rid of?

 

[Farb]

Fake hate crimes are more rampant than acts of racism and white supremacy based on what? Any studies, links, evidence to support this?

I didn't say racism, I said white supremacy. There is plenty of racism in this country, it just might surprise you where it comes from.

And I'm guessing the 100 year acknowledgement of the massacre of "Black Wall St" just more evidence of this country falling into a heap of despair and victimhood? We've got days for mothers and fathers but having a day for the indigenous peoples...whom are indeed victims...just more victimhood?

Why do we have days to 'celebrate' indigenous people? What exactly are we celebrating? What did they accomplish that we need to celebrate?
You answered your own question. Yes, just more victimhood. They are 'victims' so of course in our current climate, we must celebrate them simply because they are victims.

How about National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day on Dec 7th. More victimhood we need to get rid of?

Are we celebrating our fleet being sunk by a surprise attack by a cowardly enemy and how we as a nation picked up and created a war machine the world has never seen? We won. We are celebrating American tenacity and an American victory. When you win, hard to be a victim.